chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 17, 2018 They ditched Phaneuf’s contract for Gaborik’s. Gaborik has a history of injuries dating back to his early days with the Wild. Highly doubt he finishes out that contract. He’ll either retire fully on end up retiring on LTIR. Either way, that contract is cleared. Ottawa could win this trade of that happens. LA gave him that contract after the 2014 Cup win. He was a big part of it, so I can see wanting to keep him around awhile. But SEVEN years at $6 million? That’s pretty bad. He’s on his fifth NHL team for a reason. High money demands and injuries. Just ends up not being worth it. But, if that’s what he wanted, they may have given it to him thinking the same thing, that he wouldn’t finish it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, chaps80 said: They ditched Phaneuf’s contract for Gaborik’s. Gaborik has a history of injuries dating back to his early days with the Wild. Highly doubt he finishes out that contract. He’ll either retire fully on end up retiring on LTIR. Either way, that contract is cleared. Ottawa could win this trade of that happens. LA gave him that contract after the 2014 Cup win. He was a big part of it, so I can see wanting to keep him around awhile. But SEVEN years at $6 million? That’s pretty bad. He’s on his fifth NHL team for a reason. High money demands and injuries. Just ends up not being worth it. But, if that’s what he wanted, they may have given it to him thinking the same thing, that he wouldn’t finish it out. Sure maybe, but they did it because he is owed less cash. The cap hit Ottawa takes with this move actually goes up. They clearly care more about saving actual cash then clearing cap space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, chaps80 said: They ditched Phaneuf’s contract for Gaborik’s. Gaborik has a history of injuries dating back to his early days with the Wild. Highly doubt he finishes out that contract. He’ll either retire fully or end up retiring on LTIR. Either way, that contract is cleared. Ottawa could win this trade of that happens. LA gave him that contract after the 2014 Cup win. He was a big part of it, so I can see wanting to keep him around awhile. But SEVEN years at $6 million? That’s pretty bad. He’s on his fifth NHL team for a reason. High money demands and injuries. Just ends up not being worth it. But, if that’s what he wanted, they may have given it to him thinking the same thing, that he wouldn’t finish it out. Not so sure about that. They already have Clarke MacArthur's 4.65 mill on LTIR retirement for the next 2 years since he won't be playing again (apparently he even moved out of Ottawa to Florida). So if Gaborik gets injured into retirement then they'd have a potential 9.525 mill in LTIR players. That's more than the 10% margin for teams with players on LTIR to go over the cap in the offseason, so the contract would still mark against cap space (for the current cap it would be 2.025 million over). Put that together with the fact that they'll have a 1.75 miil caphit from Phaneuf's contract for the next 4 years, so I think it'd be like them carrying somewhere around a combined 3 million caphit of dead weight if Gaborik were to LITRetire in the next 2 years. I wouldn't call that a great way to be free of the Phaneuf contract. I guess they could trade one of those LTIR contracts to ARI or someone else in that case, though. Edited February 18, 2018 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 8 hours ago, kliq said: Ya that would be frustrating, that's one thing we as Wings fans are lucky for. Illitch's have never been hesitant to spend. I am not as confident in the ownership as I once was. I'm not so sure Chris is as eager to spend money as his father was. Now that the team isn't winning I wonder if he'll want to starting cutting payroll. 2 hours ago, chaps80 said: They ditched Phaneuf’s contract for Gaborik’s. Gaborik has a history of injuries dating back to his early days with the Wild. Highly doubt he finishes out that contract. He’ll either retire fully on end up retiring on LTIR. Either way, that contract is cleared. Ottawa could win this trade of that happens. LA gave him that contract after the 2014 Cup win. He was a big part of it, so I can see wanting to keep him around awhile. But SEVEN years at $6 million? That’s pretty bad. He’s on his fifth NHL team for a reason. High money demands and injuries. Just ends up not being worth it. But, if that’s what he wanted, they may have given it to him thinking the same thing, that he wouldn’t finish it out. Gaborik has an injury history so that must mean he was always average, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: I am not as confident in the ownership as I once was. I'm not so sure Chris is as eager to spend money as his father was. Now that the team isn't winning I wonder if he'll want to starting cutting payroll. Gaborik has an injury history so that must mean he was always average, right? If you say so. I never implied that he was average. He was a risk at that contract, that’s all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: Not so sure about that. They already have Clarke MacArthur's 4.65 mill on LTIR retirement for the next 2 years since he won't be playing again (apparently he even moved out of Ottawa to Florida). So if Gaborik gets injured into retirement then they'd have a potential 9.525 mill in LTIR players. That's more than the 10% margin for teams with players on LTIR to go over the cap in the offseason, so the contract would still mark against cap space (for the current cap it would be 2.025 million over). Put that together with the fact that they'll have a 1.75 miil caphit from Phaneuf's contract for the next 4 years, so I think it'd be like them carrying somewhere around a combined 3 million caphit of dead weight if Gaborik were to LITRetire in the next 2 years. I wouldn't call that a great way to be free of the Phaneuf contract. I guess they could trade one of those LTIR contracts to ARI or someone else in that case, though. Ahh I didn’t realize they already had a guy on LTIR. That does change things. But ya, they could trade a ghost contract to a team needing to add cap. Best case for Ottawa is Gáborík actually retires if there’s some indication he’s considering it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, chaps80 said: If you say so. I never implied that he was average. He was a risk at that contract, that’s all. Its part of a running joke about Howard being average because of his injury history. Perhaps its run its course. My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Its part of a running joke about Howard being average because of his injury history. Perhaps its run its course. My bad. I knew what it was. Howard is average though. Many goalies in the league are today. Even the elite have their down stretches and seasons, and some have never won a Cup. Times have changed since Hasek and Brodeur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 21, 2018 Four games in and Phaneuf already has as many goals with the kings as he did with the sens this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
