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#2208664 9/21 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 3

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 21 September 2011 - 07:56 PM

That's why Homer won't be sent down.


#2207716 Traverse City Tournament

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 15 September 2011 - 06:46 AM

Yes, "Could have" is all I can say because I lost a debate to a technicality. Fact is, nobody will ever know because Ritola's hockey career is pretty much over due to being deaf in one ear and slowly losing his hearing in the other. I feel bad for the kid because he's been nothing but a trooper.

As for Callahan, I don't really care. Making a bet in what happens in the next 5 years is pretty stupid, especially given the chance something bad happens like it did Ritola. If you want to make a "I told you so" bet, lets do it. If I win I'll never track you down to tell you "I told you so" because I'll forget and be happy Red Wings drafted an NHLer, but I think his chances are slim to none at this point.

Babcock was praising lots of players at this tourney and I didn't read any praise from him about Callahan. Not sure why or if it means anything. But I do know Callahan was a healthy scratch a few games ago. Again, not sure why. My guess would be he's a career AHLer or used in a trade in some kind of a package deal.

Why are Callahan's chances slim to none? He seems like a perfect 'Wings' type fourth liner to me. He has good skating, scoring, etc. and can play physical. They drafted him on potential, and he has been fulfilling that potential. I hope Callahan can bring it all together- I'm more worried about his maturity than anything else- and be on the Wings' fourth line in a few years.

As far as fighting/prospects are concerned, I'm glad we kept Abby instead of Ritola (regardless of health issues).




#2207675 Traverse City Tournament

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 14 September 2011 - 08:04 PM

Smartly? Nobody could have predicted all of Ritola's misfortunes. The kid was a damn good hockey player and would have EASILY scored more goals than Abby had he not went deaf and had other unfortunate health issues.

Stop chest pounding, you can only claim victory to some stupid debate we had over a year ago because of a player's unforeseen health misfortune. Anyone could have lost on the Igor Grigorenko bet too, because it could never have been thought he would be in a horrible car accident that cost him his NHL future.

Have fun rejoicing.

Could have is all you can say though. In ppg they were close, but Ritola was also sent to the AHL during his playing time (which doesnt support your claim to his superiority). I felt as bad as anyone about Ritola's condition, but that doesn't lessen the bet. How about the new one? If you're so confident, let's make this bet for real.


#2207668 Traverse City Tournament

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 14 September 2011 - 07:31 PM

If I got a nickel every time someone says "_________ prospect will likely be an NHLer", I'd have enough cash to go buy a house. Who knows, Callahan might become an NHLer someday, I just question if he'll ever play for the Red Wings.

Since last year you (smartly) wouldn't bet a Abby/Ritola shirt with me based on which would score more, how about we make the same (with a player of your choosing) bet that Callahan will play at least one game for the Red Wings in the next five years?


#2207618 Traverse City Tournament

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 14 September 2011 - 03:18 PM

Callahan may never play an NHL game with the Detroit Red Wings. Smith will be the type of player you want on the ice to help win games and score goals instead of sitting in the penalty box...

Fighting is overrated.

Why are you trying to make an argument out of nothing in this thread?

It was stated that both fights were a result of players standing up for their teammates, and posters applauded that effort. Has it been so long since an enforcer debate that you had to make this one, or are you so against standing up for your teammates that you have to accost everyone here who saw the fights as a positive sign?


#2205991 Report: Wade Belak found dead in home

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 02 September 2011 - 12:25 PM

Agreed, the role of enforcer, and fighting in general, time has passed. Fighting should be an automatic game suspension. I've read many times the pressure enforcers face before games knowing they have to fight and the possible injuries they could face. Players shouldn't have to go through that, plus all the mental problems they have after their career's are finished.

Also, it's been said many times, hits to the head should be taken more seriously. I don't understand why it's so difficult for people to understand what's going on, and how easy things can be avoided by doing something as simple and civil by banning hits to the head. Either someone is going to have to die on the ice, or Don Cherry and the old generation of thinking will have to pass on for anything to change.

This is way off-topic, but how do you reach that conclusion from the recent deaths? Boogaard OD'd, while Rypien and Belak had documented mental illnesses before their suicides. There is no evidence that Rypien and Belak developed these illnesses from their role in hockey. Also, it seems Boogaard became addicted to painkillers after his recent injury, and the same painkillers are given to enforcers and playmakers.

I haven't heard any retired enforcers coming out against the role, even as a lawsuit was filled by former NFL players against the NFL for mishandling concussions.

Have you played North American hockey at a competitive level? If you have played, I have a question for you- would you rather be ran from behind or fight someone? Hockey is a physical and dangerous sport, and fighting is sometimes the safest way for two players to meet physically.


#2205233 Away Games

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 26 August 2011 - 12:33 PM

Living in Minnesota, I only been to Xcel Energy Center. Lots of Red Wings fans there when I went on a Sunday last season. Only problem was where I was sitting some Wings fan keep yelling to do one-timers (why, I have no idea). He said it about 5 or 6 times then some 20 year old Wild fans decided to start yelling to do one-timers. I personally thought it was funny but most Wild fans are nice and classy.

He probably has played a few too many NHL video games.


#2204626 Should Homer Still Be On the Top Line?

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 20 August 2011 - 05:02 PM

That third line is beyond brutal.

Also I believe Helm will be the 3rd line center over Abby, assuming Flip is in the top 6 on the wing.. Helm is faster, better defensively, better offensively, and is a better playmaker than Abby.

Abby has a higher offensive ceiling than Helm IMO. Also, Helm will likely be better with Eaves and Mursak than Abby.


#2204609 Should Homer Still Be On the Top Line?

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 20 August 2011 - 01:29 PM

He should be on the first line, but not because he's a first line player. In order for Homer to be effective, he has to player with linemates who will handle to puck most of the time. Dats and Flip/Z can do that. Also, Data has said that he likes playing with Homer because he opens the ice.

Homer on the fourth line wouldn't work because he isn't fast enough or good enough defensively. He should play first line because that's where he makes a positive impact.

I see Homer playing first line, but Cleary, Abby, etc. will likely be double shifted in his place a few times a game.


#2204207 Crosby's 2012 Season now in Question

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 17 August 2011 - 11:59 AM

I really hope he never plays again. I don't get any pleasure out of saying that, I just think that certain players hurt the game more than help it. Crosby fits into that because so many little ones look up to him and all he does is play extremely well skill wise and extremely poor ethic/gamesmanship/sportsmanship wise.

I am in the opinion that nothing is more important now than to be a good example to the kids on how to act gracefully in whatever they do.

I am awful sick of dealing with people who think it is okay to act the way Crosby and other superstars act.

Can you cite any specific examples of Crosby acting inappropriately? He certainly doesn't have the best character in the league, but he is far from the worst. Also, considering the hype he's lived with for 10+ years, I think he's adjusted relatively well.


#2202467 Weber Arbitration hearing...

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 04 August 2011 - 09:50 PM

$7.5 mil for one year. He wanted $8.5 mil. If he thinks he is worth that much, he's got a serious problem. Think you're God's gift to hockey, fella? Well, you just proved that God has a good sense of humor.

In arbitration the player usually requests above his value and the team usually requests below the player's value. If Weber's wish is offensive, the Preds number was worse IMO.


#2202163 Personal Dilemma

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 03 August 2011 - 10:55 AM

My advice is that you look at Hockeystreams or Myp2p.eu for streaming. I think Hockeystreams is worth it at $90 a year plus all the extras you get and how easy it is. At the same time though, I am going to try Myp2p.eu this year instead of paying. Its not as intuitive, but the streams of Baseball and other sporting events are very nice. I will be interested to see the quality of the hockey games.

I think I touched on this in my other post, but I'll reiterate here. For the first week(s) I suggest trying all/most of the available streams for a game and make a note of the better ones. Most of the streamers do games every day (or multiple games a day), and it's really helpful to have a list of the better streams on hand. Therefore, you rarely have to go through all the available streams to find the highest quality. I think a lot of people who try myp2p just use the first link they see, not knowing the quality varies between streams.

It sounds really simple, but the idea didn't strike me for a while and searching through streams at game-time can be frustrating.


#2201802 Report: Gary Bettman makes $7.5M

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 31 July 2011 - 10:37 AM

Bettman is a ******, but he's doing a fair job.

Agree. I don't think many people like him or agree with many of his decisions, but he has done a good job.


Bettman still has not provided fans with a television deal that does not insult our intelligence.

Would you rather have one game a week on ESPN2, or three games a week on NBC/NBC Sports (Versus)? I don't have cable (so the deal doesn't directly affect me), but I know which one I would choose. One nationally televised game a week would be an insult to our intelligence IMO.

It's certainly cool to hate Bettman, but I would like someone here who doesn't think he deserves $7.5m to argue how Bettman has failed the NHL in increasing revenues, awareness, etc.


#2193616 Jackets sign Wisniewski: 6-years $33-million ($5.5m/yr)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 01 July 2011 - 11:29 AM

Have fun never competing for the cup Wiz!!

Have you seen what CBJ has done this off-season? They are now a possible playoff team. If they can make similar moves in the coming years, they could make a deep playoff run.


#2192741 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 30 June 2011 - 08:36 PM

Was not trading a fourth still a good move?

No.