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#2211018 NHL will Look into Fighting: Shanahan

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 30 September 2011 - 04:30 PM

For argument's sake, let's say the NHL outlaws fighting. What are you going to do - quit watching? Baseball fans grew to accept the DH, divisions, the Wild Card......if worse comes to worse and there's no more fighting in hockey, fans will accept it or they'll cry about it and find something else to watch.

I'll preface my comment by saying that I watch 5-10 games a week. I wouldn't stop watching the Wings, other rivalry games, or the playoffs, but I might stop watching so many other games. For example, I loved watching the Leafs and Islanders last year. There certainly wasn't a fight every game, and I didn't expect one, but I liked knowing that both teams took pride in standing up for themselves. This is one of the elements of hockey that I love (having played) and don't want to see diminished.

FWIW I wouldn't be surprised to the LNAH grow as a result, as well as any other league(s) that still allow fighting or spring up and allow fighting.


#2210987 NHL will Look into Fighting: Shanahan

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 30 September 2011 - 03:08 PM

There's not going to be more cheapshots and bad hits now that 5 or more game suspensions being thrown around daily.


Watch an OHL game, they have a complete ban on head shots, and the game is fine.

They still have fighting...


#2210399 9/28 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings at Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 28 September 2011 - 09:29 PM

Hopefully Ben Smith is okay. I think Smith's (Wings) reaction shows he didn't want to do that, but it certainly was a bad hit.


#2209295 9/23 Exhibition GDT: Philadelphia Flyers 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 23 September 2011 - 07:02 PM

who got hit?

Exelby or Smith I'm guessing since they were the dmen out there. There was no replay an the camera angle was bad. Seeing Hudler with a glove off was exciting, unfortunately he decided to spare Walker :)


#2208692 9/21 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 3

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 21 September 2011 - 08:14 PM

He turned at the last second, and that's 5 minutes? Is that how boarding works this season? I am gonna be doing alot of bitching about that s*** this season :hehe:

It's also never a good idea to be two feet from the boards when someone is coming to check you. I can see two min there, but five is ridiculous.


#2208664 9/21 Exhibition GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 3

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 21 September 2011 - 07:56 PM

That's why Homer won't be sent down.


#2207716 Traverse City Tournament

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 15 September 2011 - 06:46 AM

Yes, "Could have" is all I can say because I lost a debate to a technicality. Fact is, nobody will ever know because Ritola's hockey career is pretty much over due to being deaf in one ear and slowly losing his hearing in the other. I feel bad for the kid because he's been nothing but a trooper.

As for Callahan, I don't really care. Making a bet in what happens in the next 5 years is pretty stupid, especially given the chance something bad happens like it did Ritola. If you want to make a "I told you so" bet, lets do it. If I win I'll never track you down to tell you "I told you so" because I'll forget and be happy Red Wings drafted an NHLer, but I think his chances are slim to none at this point.

Babcock was praising lots of players at this tourney and I didn't read any praise from him about Callahan. Not sure why or if it means anything. But I do know Callahan was a healthy scratch a few games ago. Again, not sure why. My guess would be he's a career AHLer or used in a trade in some kind of a package deal.

Why are Callahan's chances slim to none? He seems like a perfect 'Wings' type fourth liner to me. He has good skating, scoring, etc. and can play physical. They drafted him on potential, and he has been fulfilling that potential. I hope Callahan can bring it all together- I'm more worried about his maturity than anything else- and be on the Wings' fourth line in a few years.

As far as fighting/prospects are concerned, I'm glad we kept Abby instead of Ritola (regardless of health issues).




#2207675 Traverse City Tournament

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 14 September 2011 - 08:04 PM

Smartly? Nobody could have predicted all of Ritola's misfortunes. The kid was a damn good hockey player and would have EASILY scored more goals than Abby had he not went deaf and had other unfortunate health issues.

Stop chest pounding, you can only claim victory to some stupid debate we had over a year ago because of a player's unforeseen health misfortune. Anyone could have lost on the Igor Grigorenko bet too, because it could never have been thought he would be in a horrible car accident that cost him his NHL future.

Have fun rejoicing.

Could have is all you can say though. In ppg they were close, but Ritola was also sent to the AHL during his playing time (which doesnt support your claim to his superiority). I felt as bad as anyone about Ritola's condition, but that doesn't lessen the bet. How about the new one? If you're so confident, let's make this bet for real.


#2207668 Traverse City Tournament

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 14 September 2011 - 07:31 PM

If I got a nickel every time someone says "_________ prospect will likely be an NHLer", I'd have enough cash to go buy a house. Who knows, Callahan might become an NHLer someday, I just question if he'll ever play for the Red Wings.

Since last year you (smartly) wouldn't bet a Abby/Ritola shirt with me based on which would score more, how about we make the same (with a player of your choosing) bet that Callahan will play at least one game for the Red Wings in the next five years?


#2207618 Traverse City Tournament

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 14 September 2011 - 03:18 PM

Callahan may never play an NHL game with the Detroit Red Wings. Smith will be the type of player you want on the ice to help win games and score goals instead of sitting in the penalty box...

Fighting is overrated.

Why are you trying to make an argument out of nothing in this thread?

It was stated that both fights were a result of players standing up for their teammates, and posters applauded that effort. Has it been so long since an enforcer debate that you had to make this one, or are you so against standing up for your teammates that you have to accost everyone here who saw the fights as a positive sign?


#2205991 Report: Wade Belak found dead in home

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 02 September 2011 - 12:25 PM

Agreed, the role of enforcer, and fighting in general, time has passed. Fighting should be an automatic game suspension. I've read many times the pressure enforcers face before games knowing they have to fight and the possible injuries they could face. Players shouldn't have to go through that, plus all the mental problems they have after their career's are finished.

Also, it's been said many times, hits to the head should be taken more seriously. I don't understand why it's so difficult for people to understand what's going on, and how easy things can be avoided by doing something as simple and civil by banning hits to the head. Either someone is going to have to die on the ice, or Don Cherry and the old generation of thinking will have to pass on for anything to change.

This is way off-topic, but how do you reach that conclusion from the recent deaths? Boogaard OD'd, while Rypien and Belak had documented mental illnesses before their suicides. There is no evidence that Rypien and Belak developed these illnesses from their role in hockey. Also, it seems Boogaard became addicted to painkillers after his recent injury, and the same painkillers are given to enforcers and playmakers.

I haven't heard any retired enforcers coming out against the role, even as a lawsuit was filled by former NFL players against the NFL for mishandling concussions.

Have you played North American hockey at a competitive level? If you have played, I have a question for you- would you rather be ran from behind or fight someone? Hockey is a physical and dangerous sport, and fighting is sometimes the safest way for two players to meet physically.


#2205233 Away Games

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 26 August 2011 - 12:33 PM

Living in Minnesota, I only been to Xcel Energy Center. Lots of Red Wings fans there when I went on a Sunday last season. Only problem was where I was sitting some Wings fan keep yelling to do one-timers (why, I have no idea). He said it about 5 or 6 times then some 20 year old Wild fans decided to start yelling to do one-timers. I personally thought it was funny but most Wild fans are nice and classy.

He probably has played a few too many NHL video games.


#2204626 Should Homer Still Be On the Top Line?

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 20 August 2011 - 05:02 PM

That third line is beyond brutal.

Also I believe Helm will be the 3rd line center over Abby, assuming Flip is in the top 6 on the wing.. Helm is faster, better defensively, better offensively, and is a better playmaker than Abby.

Abby has a higher offensive ceiling than Helm IMO. Also, Helm will likely be better with Eaves and Mursak than Abby.


#2204609 Should Homer Still Be On the Top Line?

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 20 August 2011 - 01:29 PM

He should be on the first line, but not because he's a first line player. In order for Homer to be effective, he has to player with linemates who will handle to puck most of the time. Dats and Flip/Z can do that. Also, Data has said that he likes playing with Homer because he opens the ice.

Homer on the fourth line wouldn't work because he isn't fast enough or good enough defensively. He should play first line because that's where he makes a positive impact.

I see Homer playing first line, but Cleary, Abby, etc. will likely be double shifted in his place a few times a game.


#2204207 Crosby's 2012 Season now in Question

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 17 August 2011 - 11:59 AM

I really hope he never plays again. I don't get any pleasure out of saying that, I just think that certain players hurt the game more than help it. Crosby fits into that because so many little ones look up to him and all he does is play extremely well skill wise and extremely poor ethic/gamesmanship/sportsmanship wise.

I am in the opinion that nothing is more important now than to be a good example to the kids on how to act gracefully in whatever they do.

I am awful sick of dealing with people who think it is okay to act the way Crosby and other superstars act.

Can you cite any specific examples of Crosby acting inappropriately? He certainly doesn't have the best character in the league, but he is far from the worst. Also, considering the hype he's lived with for 10+ years, I think he's adjusted relatively well.