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#2530738 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Euro_Twins on 09 July 2014 - 08:41 AM

We have $10million in cap space, yes we have the room to take the chance on him.

#2530606 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by SDavis35 on 08 July 2014 - 01:27 PM

I only hope he brings scoring to the team; imo it's the offense from our defense which is a reason we couldn't score most of last season. 

#2529033 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Echolalia on 01 July 2014 - 07:24 PM

Of course not. Holland only gives up draft picks for valuable players, such as David Legwand and Kyle Quincey. I would have taken Stuart back for that price over giving up nothing to keep Quincey around.

Stuart's career hasn't been what it used to be with us. I'd rather have Quincey.

#2528102 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2014 - 01:16 PM

Someone call lidstrom


Holland tried.  Lidstrom's on the phone with Yzerman in Tampa.

#2524962 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 20 June 2014 - 09:52 PM

Dale Weise has re-signed with Montreal for two years.

Too bad he'll only see one of those years, since Milan Lucic is going tof****** kill him next year.

#2524768 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by KGW on 20 June 2014 - 04:33 AM

Also, yeah he had a few bad games, when the team was playing terribly, but for one month or so, he was playing as well as any net minder in the league and he made a couple of the best saves I've seen in a long time. He also did well against Boston in my opinion.


He's bound to be inconsistant at times, if he wasn't, he wouldn't be signing as a back up and he wouldn't be $1.5 mill per year.

#2524444 Petr Mrazek

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 18 June 2014 - 01:35 PM

Our baby goalie!


#2524006 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Euro_Twins on 16 June 2014 - 10:33 AM


All that's saying I'd that alfies bonuses were deferred to next seasons cap, which we already knew was going to happen. We're not being punished like you said. We still have money to spend this off season and it doesn't put us into "cap trouble"

#2519420 Wings Advanced Puck Possession Stats

Posted by number9 on 06 May 2014 - 12:58 PM

So I saw a Leafs fan do this, and for them all of their fighters ended up at the bottom of the list, so I thought it might actually be a semi decent metric and wanted to see how the Wings lined up.


Corsi F% is basically an advance stats proxy for puck possession. (Shots + shots missed the net + shots blocked for your team and the others while a player is on the ice)


The Leafs fan did Corsi F%, minus Corsi F% of linemates, plus the Corsi F% of opposition. So basically it's CF% adjusted for the strength of competition and strength of linemates.


Here's the numbers for the Wings during regular season 5x5 play:


  1. Tatar 0.563 - 0.500 + 0.496 = .559
  2. Datsyuk 0.561 - 0.500 + 0.494 = .555
  3. Nyquist 0.546 - 0.510 + 0.501 = .537
  4. Sheahan 0.561 - 0.522 + 0.494 = .533
  5. Jurco 0.558 - 0.524 + 0.494 = .528
  6. Zetterberg 0.532 - 0.517 + 0.508 = .523
  7. Helm 0.531 - 0.508 + 0.492 = .515
  8. Legwand 0.496 - 0.492 + 0.501 = .505
  9. Alfredsson 0.513 - 0.511 + 0.495 = .497
  10. Franzen 0.511 - 0.514 + 0.500 = .497
  11. Samuelsson 0.505 - 0.505 + 0.497 = .497
  12. Emmerton 0.502 - 0.505 + 0.498 = .495
  13. Abdelkader 0.508 - 0.518 + 0.503 = .493
  14. Andersson 0.500 - 0.515 + 0.495 = .480
  15. Miller 0.489 - 0.510 + 0.494 = .473
  16. Bertuzzi 0.496 - 0.524 + 0.497 = .469
  17. Cleary 0.473 - 0.512 + 0.499 = .460
  18. Glendening 0.462 - 0.518 + 0.495 = .439
  19. Weiss 0.420 - 0.520 + 0.505 = .405


I was glad to see all the kids right up there with Datsyuk and Zetterberg. A testament to how well they've worked in our puck possession system so far. Defensive players like Abdelkader, Miller, Andersson, and Glendening ranked low, which didn't surprise me bc most don't have the offensive ability to possess the puck a lot. Not surprisingly either is how low Weiss, Cleary, and Bertuzzi are, all guys that should have shown more offense.


These numbers are far from 100% reflective of puck possession skill, but if we were to go off them a puck possession team should ice this forward lineup next year:


Tatar - Datsyuk - Nyquist

Zetterberg - Sheahan - Jurco

Legwand - Helm - Alfredsson/Franzen

Abdelkader - Andersson - Alfredsson/Franzen


I think most would agree with that lineup or some variation of it. We also have Weiss who's numbers could be much better next year.


Thoughts on the calculations or results? It's very moneyballish so take it for what it's worth

#2518352 Red Wings expect changes for 2014 - 2015

Posted by Shaman on 30 April 2014 - 10:26 AM

I want Trevor gillies anyone with me? I really hope we get someone with some size and balls preferably a third line talent guy







This team has 9 bottom 6 forwards and a lot of players that are either out of options in GR, or should be getting their chance soon. A 35 year old goon who can't make the NHL and whose team is losing to the Griffins in the Calder cup playoffs is not the answer.

#2516385 ECQF - Game 5 - Red Wings at Bruins - 3:00 PM EST

Posted by Tr!PoD#19 on 26 April 2014 - 02:36 PM

You know which Wing has really impressed me in this series?


#2515658 Wings Roster great on paper ?

Posted by lomekian on 24 April 2014 - 10:58 PM

The series has also highlighted a number of things we all knew.

This team is too small.

This is a roster in transition, trying not to waste the final years of D & Z, but has too many rookies and vets and not enough at their peak.

Howard is a good no 1 goalie, but will never be a great one. The monster is a decent back-up but plays a scary style.

If tootoo's offence hadn't vanished, he'd be a valuable playoff man in the east.

Legwand hasn't really worked, but has shown more then Weiss did.

We still desperately need a no 1 D. Too many we have have strengths matched by weakeness. Ericsson has no offence and goes on bad runs of form. Smith, though improved, still takes far too many risks. Lashoff is a career no 7 at best, as he doesn't move the puck well enough. Kindl has all the tools to be a good 2nd pairing man, but lacks the aggression and courage under pressure. DD is a solid 2nd pairing guy, who occasionally makes rookie mistakes, and hasn't much offensive upside. Quincey is better than most think he is, but is a 3rd pairing 2 way d-man trying to learn how to be an anchor....

Up front we have more balance with helm back, but desperately need guys who can finish. Franzen, for all the criticism, is getting chances, making decent rushes and being defensively responsible, but is on one of his increasingly regular dry spells where he can't finish. As someone said, he's a 3 rd line forward who will occasionally be unstoppable for a month. He also plays a LOT better with Zetts than any one else at Centre, so if he's being second line, it needs to be with z and nyquist for speed. Otherwise 3rd line for the mule except when he heats up. He's still just about worth his salary, but remains frustrating as hell.

Other than that Alfie has a great shot, but most of them are pass first guys who can finish. But we've been crying out for a goal scorer for YEARS.

The positive is, some of the solutions to some of these problems are in the system.

Mrazek could be Hasek lite, but either way will push jimmy more than gus, being someway between the two.
Sproul will hel our PP no end, and has great size. While we wait for him to tune his defence,Almquist could be a PP stop gap. A slower Rafalski...
Marchenko and Oulette have shown they can contribute safely enough, so it's safe that at Least one will surpass kindl and Lasshoff.
AA - Greek lightning - Brings blazing speed and decent size. And a lot of skill.
Mantha has the potential to be 1 year away from the guy Pav has been waiting for since Hossa. Best prospect we've had since zetterburg.
Callahan can bring some more sandpaper with a hint of goal sniffing
Jurco uses his size well despite being a skill guy.

Others show possibilities but are harder to pick confidently.

Still not enough size......

Not sure how we fix that, as trades and FAs are not holland's strong point it seems

#2512523 ECQF Game 2 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Bruins 4 - Series tied 1-1

Posted by Dabura on 20 April 2014 - 04:01 PM

Or maybe Holland can figure out how to build a team like Boston, instead of taking over a team of Hall of Famers with an unlimited payroll.  


We're (likely) gonna go home with a split, all without Zetterberg and Ericsson. We don't need to blow up the team. We need to score a power play goal.

#2511340 2014 Round 1 Photoshop War: Boston Bruins

Posted by King Crane on 18 April 2014 - 11:24 PM

From @helmerroids


#2508675 Babcock and Holland Talk About Stuff

Posted by Dabura on 11 April 2014 - 05:31 PM

I felt this deserved a thread:


Babcock and Holland On The Radio [Winging It In Motown]