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#2313975 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 07:56 PM

I just know yzerman or lidstrom wouldn't pull this

They might be doing this if they were both free agents and wanted to get the best deal to play together on the same team.

I really don't like everyone attacking these players character because we're in day 3 of the UFA period and they haven't signed yet. These talented players, who are interested in joining our team and possibly wearing the winged wheel for the next decade, need some time to think about what is the biggest decision of their professional career. It shouldn't be taken lightly and they need to take everything into account. If they choose us, great. If not, oh well, good luck to them wherever they go. Being pissed at a couple of players that COULD still be Red Wings because they need a little extra time to decide where they want to play is ignorant. We're Red Wings fans, let's act like the franchise and show some class and patience.

#2313929 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by GoWings1905 on 03 July 2012 - 06:47 PM

Yes, people are f***in mad that these dumbasses act like they did no f***in planning before July 1 at all. July 1st ain't the f***in' time to start researching schools and neighborhoods and asking your wife.


Why are they obligated to decide right on July 1st? Because we are anxious as fans?

Besides, they had no certainty where the offers would come from until two days ago. Both guys are nothing but professional on and off the ice by all accounts. I think it's absurd how mad people are getting that they haven't made one of the biggest choices in their lives on a whim.

#2313905 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 July 2012 - 06:04 PM

Wow people are still getting angry at players for taking their time? How would you feel if you have 25 job offers with some exceptional ones? Personally I would take all my time to ask my wife, family, friends and agents about the pro/cons of either city, the team, coach and trying to phone a couple of players how it is to play for my destinated team and then go through the list.

Let them take their time, I am almost everyone of us would do the same.

#2313904 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by Jesusberg on 03 July 2012 - 06:04 PM

We're getting a little arrogant here, in my opinion. The guy's making a huge decision and taking a few days to do it. A lot of the fans here are coming off like spoiled brats.

"The how dare he take some time to decide, we're the Red Wings" attitude is unbecoming.

#2308164 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by Richdg on 19 June 2012 - 10:49 PM

Things you know you will always get with Darren Helm:

1) Speed.
2) He will outwork anyone on the ice for either team.
3) He will kill penalties.
4) He will score the occasional goal.

Yes, 4 years for 2 million is a no-brainer for me. Helm has made himself untouchable on this team.

Untouchabe? That is a little much. Yes good checkers are always needed. But so are stars that can take your team to the promised land. A team of stars isn't going to get it done, nor is aa team fo checkers. But there are packages where helm could be moved. But we are talking about picking up stars. If the pens were to offer us Staal for helm and others, I would do it in a heartbeat. No, I am not saying we can do that, but as an example it mkes the point.

#2308033 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by LeftWinger on 19 June 2012 - 11:27 AM

Honestly, I was hoping for a more of a $1.5M Cap hit, I know he is a solid player and is good at what he does, but I just don't think he earned a raise over twice what he was payed last season...I guess we will see in 4 years if he is outplaying this $2.1M. It's not that he isn't worth it, it's just needed cap space to make this team better... If Holland overpays Quincey, I will have an ulcer... I hope he keeps Abby at a modest pay...I am hoping for $1.1, but after this, I am seeing $1.8M... sorry guys, not being negative, it's just needed cap space, or maybe sign the big UFA's first and then pay your guys a bit of a inflated contract, thats all I am saying...of course after re-signing Bertuzzi at too much money, I should have seen this coming...

NO QUINCEY!!! NO HUDLER!!! Please God! Please Holland! PLEASE!!!!

EDIT: Also, do you now realize what it's going to take to re-sign Filppula? He will get at least $5M...that is the problem here, (and not just Holland) keep overpaying and the NHL will go belly up... I honestly see a point where the guys making $500,000 today will be at $2M within a couple of years...Hey Minny, go ahead a give Parise the world, ruin the NHL (again.)

#2307859 Brad Stuart's rights traded to San Jose

Posted by redwings1914 on 18 June 2012 - 02:57 PM

Oh, there will be. Sad, but true. It'll be the same idiots that boo Hossa when he did nothing but fulfill his obligation, which was a huge risk in the first place given the 1-year term in the prime of his career.

Hossa signed with a major rival, hence the booing. Stuart did the same, hence there will be booing. Neither player owed us anything, but we couldn't afford Hossa so Stuart deserves it more than Hossa. Give it 3 years and no one will care anymore, same thing happened to Fedorov.
Most people are fans of the team's well being not the players.

#2307854 Brad Stuart's rights traded to San Jose

Posted by NeverForgetMac25 on 18 June 2012 - 02:19 PM

Agreed. I hope no idiots boo him when he comes to town in his new sweater.

Oh, there will be. Sad, but true. It'll be the same idiots that boo Hossa when he did nothing but fulfill his obligation, which was a huge risk in the first place given the 1-year term in the prime of his career.

#2307876 Thinking of Buffalo Wings.....

Posted by Richdg on 18 June 2012 - 05:07 PM

There are and have been some rumors around that the Sabers are looking for a true C. They have several good young wingers, but have a gapping hole in the middle. They are also a small market team that has to watch its pennies very carefully. We on the other hand have lots of cash and C's. if we load up at the C position, Filppula would be our number 3 C behind Z and Dat. Point is, there could be some deals that benefit both sides here. if Buf really wants to free up cash, Filppula for vaneck comes to mind. In his 7 year career he has averaged 33 goals per season. has decent size as well. Gives us another scoring winger and them a true number 1 type C. They also have 2 1st round picks. So we could try a Filppula for Stafford and their second 21st (IIRC) pick. Point is, they need what we have and we need what they have. Could be a good dancing partner.......

#2307673 Power Play

Posted by Richdg on 17 June 2012 - 12:17 AM

The best powerplays have the same things in common. On D you need a LH and RH shot. You need a F that can stand in front of the goal, and 2 other forwards that are good at passing AND shooting. We have some short comings here. Only 1 RH D on the team. Not sure who is going to stand in front of the net, and what F are great shooters? Great passing and plenty of LH D we have.

#2307393 Is the Stanley Cup really the hardest trophy in all of pro sport?

Posted by kipwinger on 14 June 2012 - 01:57 PM

This article brings up an interesting point about NFL vs NHL playoffs.

"To win the Superbowl a team must be the better team through 44 minutes of play.
To win the Stanley Cup a team must be the better team through a minimum of 16 hours of play."

My link

This article is awesome. I wish I could send it over to the guys at "PTI" or "Around the Horn" and then ask them why they get so worked up over such a garbage game.

#2307356 Is the Stanley Cup really the hardest trophy in all of pro sport?

Posted by kipwinger on 14 June 2012 - 11:53 AM

This sums up exactly how I feel about the NFL and why I feel that the NHL is second to none (especially the NFL) in professional sports in terms of quality, competitiveness, and athleticism. Enjoy.


#2307055 Zach Parise

Posted by centcougar07 on 13 June 2012 - 01:59 AM

Why don't you describe what is going on in the opening post instead of saying "Hey, here is a link, click it and take my word for what is on it"?

25 minute mark has talking about LA rioting (or lack therof) after their cup win. Nothing about Zach Parise.

27 minute mark talking about crowds and random crap. Head coach for LA going to stay? Who knows in this radio broadcast.

28 Phil Jackson talk. Radio host says "Let's leave Parise aside for the time being". So 3 minutes after you say we should start listening they discuss Parise only to say that they aren't going to talk about it yet? Jeez, man.

30 minutes in: Leopold says nobody is going to outbid the Wild. So if Parise is going anywhere, it is for less money. The guy just assumes that Parise isn't going to be here simply because the Wild's GM is going to throw as much money as he can at him. Implying Holland can't afford to do that as well.

Not bad news, just more of what we assumed would happen.

Parise talk starts at about 28 but I was trying to give some perspective on the conversation by having people listen to a couple minutes of other hockey talk. I think it's bad news because here we have an expert with an in on the whole situation saying he would be shocked if he didn't end up with the Wild. The conversation also goes on at the 35:45 mark as well.

#2306581 Brad Stuart's rights traded to San Jose

Posted by Guest on 11 June 2012 - 10:39 AM

This was gonna happen either way...so far, it is all going to plan...

1. Cap went up!

2. Lids hung them up! (ya this was a bit to swallow, but geesh, folks on here (including me) were saying not too long ago that LIds either needs to take $2.0M or retire. So there ya go, he retired)

3. Stuart left.

...now we will see if the plan keeps going or if it has to change drastically. Bottom line, if Holland does indeed throw the wallet at Suter/Parise and he doesn't get them, its because they didn't want to be here and I think that is the ONLY way they aren't in Wings jersey's next season. I son't think their current clubs can out bid Detroit...Jersey for it's financial woes and Nashville because of Rinne's dumb ass contract and Weber needing to be signed...Speaking of Nashville, would anyone want Tootoo here for that 4th line hitter/grinder? Just curious...

Oh christ no on Tootoo. We need guys with guts. Not guys who hit players from behind and then run and hide behind the refs. We already have Franzen for that.

#2306482 Brad Stuart's rights traded to San Jose

Posted by sleepwalker on 11 June 2012 - 02:43 AM

He was a solid d-man, bummer to see him go, although like Lidstrom retiring this off season, we all knew it was an inevitability.

I feel kinda bad for Stuart with all the family stuff and not being able to fly the entire family out to see him. Yet another glaring example of why you should NEVER get romantically involved with someone who already has kids by someone else. Its almost guaranteed to be drama. (I know, been there, done that)