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#2458371 Quincey

Posted by kipwinger on 26 November 2013 - 08:18 PM

Kyle Quincey is perhaps the worst "trade" Holland has ever made... he has signed some questionable UFA's, but when it comes to trades he usually makes pretty good decisions.  I hated this trade from day one, hated the re-signing and will kick Holland in the nuts (if I ever see him) if he re-signs him again.


No you didn't.  Here's what you actually said when Quincey was traded for...


"I may be in the minority here, but I think this is a nice deal. Kyle is a big upgrade over Kindl, he is much better (maybe not tougher) than Commodore, he will be a nice addition here. Welcome back Kyle!

and for those who think a first was too much, not only is the first gonna be at least in the bottom 4, it may be #30 overall, just like everyone is saying, but consider this, when was the last time Holland even used his first? The first is so low every year he usually trades it away for another 2nd round pick. Which he has done at least the last two season's. This could mean Holland isn't done, he has said Smith will be coming up soon to get some playing time, maybe Kindl is on his way out, who know's. But as minor as this deal was, it is a little exciting. Quincey will make an impression, trust me. Where are all the folks that were complaining just last week about how we lost him to waivers a few years ago. They should be happy!"


And here's where you said it...http://www.letsgowin... trade quincey


You are aware that when you say things on a forum, and then flip flop later, people can look it up right?

#2456901 The Dan Cleary Hate Zone

Posted by Nev on 23 November 2013 - 12:21 PM

I don't hate Cleary.  I do hate ungrateful, spiteful, keyboard warriors who are unable to appreciate the fact that the reason Cleary is so ineffective is because he has given quite literally everything his body has for this team.


I refuse to hate a player who has been a part of so many great moments for this team.  I refuse to hate a player who continued to play in the 2009 playoffs - all the way to game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals - with a double groin tear so bad he couldn't actually walk up a flight of stairs.  I refuse to hate the player who laid out Phaneuf, fought Pronger, scored the winner in game 7 against the ducks.


I refuse to hate a player who took a slapshot to face and was eating through a straw for a month, who lost 20lbs of muscle that had taken a lifetime to build, and when he came back went straight to the front of the net again.


So all you internet tough guys who don't have a fraction of the heart, courage and toughness that Dan Cleary has displayed in the Red + White, I suggest you all STFU and show a bit of class, dignity and gratitude.

#2456732 Nyquist Getting the call

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 November 2013 - 03:32 PM

Just for the sake of trying something new, let's all keep a few of these threads on topic and not about Cleary.



#2456740 Nyquist Getting the call

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 November 2013 - 03:46 PM


While I understand, I think Cleary is topic-centric to everything Wings related this season.  e.g. This thread wouldn't exist without Cleary being on the team.


You're obviously not alone in thinking Cleary is topic-centric to everything this season, but he actually isn't. 


Cleary's role in the lineup could certainly be relevant to Nyquist under some circumstances and worth discussion, but when it veers off into the endless complaining that litters every thread here, it is no longer germane to the topic and will be deleted.

#2439903 Emmerton on Waivers

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 29 September 2013 - 10:48 PM

Assuming you want a drawing of what Samuelsson will be doing, here it is:
(note: on the right is money, and on the left a cigar)

That is clearly an airplane flying into a flashlight held by some skinny guy who is also playing with green Legos.

Which I feel sums up this Sammy situation perfectly.

Edit: I have decided that the skinny guy is Emmerton in order to keep things on topic.

#2437691 ESPN Future Power Rankings: Red Wings #2

Posted by VM1138 on 19 September 2013 - 06:56 PM

Anyone else bugged by us being "like" Chicago, even though Chicago copied us?

#2437589 Cleary re-signs with Detroit, 1 year, $1.75m deal

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 September 2013 - 12:00 PM

I didn't exactly want him back but I think the worst part of the Cleary signing will be listening to everyone here complain about him all year, regardless of how he actually plays. 


I'm guessing the biggest role Cleary fills in the coming season is scapegoat. 

#2437218 9/17 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blackhawks 2

Posted by Dabura on 17 September 2013 - 04:05 PM


#2435192 Lines Thread

Posted by T.Low on 05 September 2013 - 09:01 PM

Odds of seeing the two Berts on the same line...I guess I'd have a better chance of winning the lotto.  It'd be kinda cool, though.

#2436079 Cleary re-signs with Detroit, 1 year, $1.75m deal

Posted by Crymson on 12 September 2013 - 10:28 AM

Gee, great. At least it's only for a year.


Cleary had better have an excellent year. Otherwise I'm going to do some very extreme nothing, because there's nothing I can do.

#2433807 Grand Rapids Griffins - Behind The Benches

Posted by Nev on 22 August 2013 - 06:59 AM

There is a thread for this in the Griffins forum, but since no-one goes there, and no-one has seemingly seen it, I hope the mods allow this thread to remain.


The Griffins did an HBO 24/7  style "behind the benches" series of videos for each round of their playoff run, which are frankly amazing.  The production values are incredible and they offer a fascinating insight.  The links are for the 2 videos from the finals, but all the previous rounds are linked beneath the videos.



Several things spring to mind watching them.


Blashill is mini-Babcock.  Very cool and proffesional.

Ferraro has a mouth and an agitating style to match Maltby, and drops the gloves to boot.

Tatar is a VERY confident individual, borderline arrogance and I can see why he rubs some Wings fans the wrong way.  He's going to really wind the opposition up.

The importance of the veterans on that team.  Some round here would I think like every player on the Griffins to be under-21, but its clear guys like Hoggan and Grant were hugely important on and off the ice.


Best line of the series - Triston Grant on being complimented on his playoff beard "Thanks, I have my mothers genes" :lol:

#2434167 Wings sign Alfredsson to 1-year, $3.5m deal (+$2m bonuses)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 26 August 2013 - 09:53 AM

It's funny, given how many perfectionists here were pissed that he was on the team at all in his last two seasons.

An aging vet who falls down a lot but plays fearless, does the dirty work, and is all heart, yet in spite of that people act like he's total garbage and can't wait to kick him off the team?

hmm... that sounds strangely familiar.

#2426175 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by Crymson on 04 July 2013 - 08:52 PM

Can we get a fan letter in to Mr Illitch to voice our displeasure with Holland? I think most people would just be happy with a GM that avoids dead weight players and lets the kids fill spots as they earn it. Im not saying holland should be spending to the cap with the flavor of the month - i just want him to stop pursuing old vets instead of letting the kids play. Why draft them then?


Holland has helped Ilitch earn loads of money. If you hadn't noticed, postseason performances bring in quite a bit of dough. And by just about every metric out there, Holland is the best GM of the past 15 years.

#2429792 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by Crymson on 12 July 2013 - 04:25 PM

I'd rather have Brunner under contract at a slightly higher price tag right now than Samuelsson/Tootoo riding the bench sucking a larger combined salary.


According to various sources, he's been trying to move both of them.


That said, there's simply not much room for Brunner on this team. With Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Weiss, Alfredsson, Tatar, Nyquist, and Bertuzzi/whoever, the Wings already have three scoring lines. Then they've got Helm, Andersson, Miller, and Eaves to round out the checking line. Much as I would like to have Brunner on this team, there's just no space; and more importantly, there's no reason to give him the top-six role that he's demanding as a condition of being signed. He performed better in a third-line capacity, and he's not satisfied with that. His demand for top-six time despite his relative inexperience, insufficient degree of consistency and defensive shortcomings is perhaps part of what's turning teams off on him.

#2426331 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 July 2013 - 09:22 AM

I just don't get the Daniel Cleary hate. He is durable, has a big heart, one tough bastard and veteran presence. Is it based on salary/years? I would take him on my team any day.


Durability: ** GP (Games Played)/GS (Games Scheduled) = % PLAYED (Games Played)

Regular Season



05-06 = 77/82 = 94%
06-07 = 71/82 = 87%

07-08 = 63/82 = 77%
08-09 = 74/82 = 90%
09-10 = 64/82 = 78%
10-11 = 68/82 = 83%
11-12 = 75/82 = 92%
12-13 = 48/48 = 100%




05-06 =  6/6 = 100%
06-07 = 18/18 = 100%
07-08 = 22/22 = 100%
08-09 = 23/23 = 100%
09-10 = 12/12 = 100%
10-11 = 11/11 = 100%
11-12 = 5/5 = 100%
12-13 = 14/14 = 100%


Scheduled Games Played:

Season Avg: 88% (540/622)

Playoffs Avg:  100% (111/111) Scheduled Games Played (NEVER a healthy scratch)


My theory is he was asked to play a bigger role than he probably should have at this point in his career so he struggled at times.  Combined with his type of game being not being very pretty. 


Then once you become the whipping boy here it doesn't really matter what actually happens on the ice.  Cleary was 2nd on the team in playoff scoring and people try to dismiss all his points. 


If it's so easy why couldn't Franzen, who's much bigger than Cleary and wasn't playing with a separated shoulder, manage to get to the front of the net "and have pucks hit him?"  Or Flip for that matter?  


A big part of the answer is because Cleary is willing to do what Homer did.  Pay the price to earn his spot in front of the net and stand there as someone rockets a slapshot at him.  If you watch Mule, he often spins out of the way before the puck gets to him.  


As I said before, if Cleary is re-signed and he ends up playing a lot of minutes on the top 6 and PP, that's not his fault.  That's Hollands.  Cleary's larger role on the offense is a symptom of a bigger problem, but it doesn't make him a bad player.