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#2596787 Smith in. Marchenko out for Game 3

Posted by kipwinger on 20 April 2015 - 08:42 AM

Marchenko really looked lost last game.  No harm no foul bringing Smith back in.  We've got to do something to wake our team up, and sticking with the same old thing isn't going to hack it. 

 

I sure hope Brendan's ready.  We need mistake free hockey. 




#2596506 Abdelkader to return for Game 3

Posted by TripleS on 19 April 2015 - 12:31 AM

http://www.mlive.com...ck_will_st.html

 

Babcock says Abby is back ... Lines ...




#2595909 ECQF Game 2 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Tampa Bay Lightning 5

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 18 April 2015 - 03:04 PM

Stamkos channeling his Luis Suarez.  What a punk.  




#2592206 4/11/15 GDT Red Wings 2 @ Hurricanes 0

Posted by roboturner on 11 April 2015 - 11:49 AM

Oh Oh Oh Its Mrazek




#2583297 Hakan Andersson:Hero of the Red Wings’ playoff streak

Posted by Son of a Wing on 20 March 2015 - 02:42 PM

 

 

The Seeker: Scout Hakan Andersson a hero of the Red Wings’ playoff streak

 

 

 

By:Michael Farber

At four o’clock on the Friday before the winter solstice, in the gathering gloom of the 58th parallel, Frölundaborgs Isstadion, an arena that holds 7,527 in a Swedish suburb of Göteborg, is filled with little more than 55 spectators and the unmistakable musk of moldering hockey equipment bags. Fifty-four of those people are hockey civilians, awaiting the start of a Junior B tournament game between Västerås and a team from Norway. The 55th is Håkan Andersson, the chief European scout of the Red Wings, who settles into a deserted section between the red line and one of the blue lines. At hand are the three things he finds indispensable in his line of work: a roster, a pen and a paper cup of steeping Earl Grey tea.

 

Five days earlier, on Sunday, Andersson had flown from his home in Stockholm to Venice. The following morning he had driven 75 miles northwest to Asiago, in the foothills of the Italian Alps, for the second-tier under-20 world championship, where he and 20 or so other NHL scouts saw three games contested by teams from lesser European hockey nations (Norway vs. Austria, Latvia vs. Slovenia and Belarus vs. Italy). Andersson returned home on Tuesday, took Wednesday and Thursday off, and now had driven five hours across the country to catch a modest four-team tournament. Andersson has been in the epiphany business for nearly 25 years; his roads to Damascus are the autoroutes and tarmacs of Europe. From October through early April every year, he typically will drive 20,000 miles in Sweden and take 65 flights in Europe, hopscotching the Continent. He attends some 200 games each season, distilling about 12,000 minutes of earnest if inelegant hockey to the handful of meaningful seconds in which an ineluctable truth about a player emerges, when a teenage boy reveals himself and, perhaps, foretells his future as a man.

 

There is an exacting toll to the scouting life—cold rinks, rank air, time away from family (Andersson and his wife, Veronica Pihl, have a nine-year-old son, Philip)—but if you have instincts and contacts and luck and a stable organization with a sustainable hockey philosophy, the payoff can be considerable. Andersson is solely responsible for finding Pavel Datsyuk, Johan Franzén, Niklas Kronwall, Gustav Nyquist and Jonathan Ericsson and had the lead role in identifying Henrik Zetterberg, the players who form the core of the current team that has extended Detroit’s playoff streak to 23 seasons. (The Red Wings, currently third in the Atlantic Division, are likely to reach their 24th consecutive postseason this spring.) Simply, Andersson does his job as well as anyone in sports. “Håkan is an unsung hero, an MVP for us,” general manager Ken Holland says. “His fingerprints are on a big part of our team.”

 

In the second game at the Göteborg tournament—host Frölunda plays Linköping—Andersson will focus on Jacob Larsson, a silky 17-year-old defenseman for the local team. Andersson, who serves on the Frölunda board of directors, knows Larsson well. So does the industry; last month, he was fifth among non–North American skaters in the predraft rankings of NHL Central Scouting. Andersson has scored big with a first-rounder before. In 2000 he helped convince Detroit to take the then undersized Kronwall (the defenseman has filled out to 6 feet and 194 pounds) with the 29th pick. But Andersson has made his reputation mucking in the murky corners, seeing something that other scouts don’t—or can’t. With the final pick of the ’02 draft he found Ericsson, a converted forward who plays on the Red Wings’ top defense pair with Kronwall. At one point Detroit was icing an all-Håkan line of Datsyuk (171st in 1998) at center and Zetterberg (210th in ’99) and the now retired Tomas Holmström (257th in ’94) on the wings.

 

The NHL is dotted with late-round gems, including Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist (picked in the seventh round in 2000), a Frölunda product who never played particularly well when Andersson saw him. If the scout has a stain on his résumé, it is his failure to uncover a No. 1 goaltender, but in recent years he has made a point of speaking with more goalie coaches to sharpen his knowledge of the position. Andersson remains relentlessly curious. In Göteborg he is less focused on Larsson than on a righthanded shooting winger from Västerås, Lukas Zetterberg (no relation to Henrik). Andersson has already seen the 17-year-old Zetterberg three times and is uncertain what to think.

 

“Remember, this is a Junior B game,” Andersson says during the second period. “When the game’s over, am I going to remember that [Zetterberg] stood out? He should dominate. He tries to finish his checks, but he’s not really intense. His skills are O.K. Can he do what he does here in the NHL?” Zetterberg chases the play into the corner, on the side of the ice where Andersson is seated. His view is obscured, but the scout clearly sees what comes next: An opposing defenseman whips the puck to a teammate in the neutral zone. “I don’t know what happened, but it can’t be good,” he says. “If you asked me right now, I would say to you it’s doubtful he would be on [my] list.”

 

Like many Swedes, Andersson speaks nearly flawless, colloquial English—right down to his appropriation of one of Holland’s verbal ticks, beginning answers with “I would say to you....” Andersson is 50. He is a professional optimist, one of the prerequisites for a job in which his work and that of his 12 fellow Red Wings amateur scouts is refined annually into seven draft choices. If Andersson likes a player, he might say, “I don’t mind him,” to dampen his natural enthusiasm. If he really likes a player, Andersson will bypass standard operating procedure—after games he usually refashions the sparse notes he jots on his roster into a detailed report that he enters into the team’s scouting database—and rank him on his list of European prospects, which will have 30 to 40 names at the draft in Florida next June.

 

“The odds say 1.5 in seven make it [to the NHL],” he says. “The criticism is I go too much for the home run. Late rounds, I’ll go for pure talent. If a guy makes it, [he’ll probably] be on the top two lines. My joke is Kenny can pick up the phone [any time] and find a fourth-line player or a seventh [defenseman]. So why not swing for the fences?”

In July 1989, Detroit scouting director Neil Smith left the Red Wings to become GM of the Rangers. When he departed for New York, Smith brought along Christer Rockström, the European scout who a month earlier had been behind Detroit’s selection of defenseman Nicklas Lidström in the third round of the team’s epic draft. Red Wings assistant GM Nick Polano asked Rockström if he could recommend a replacement.

 

Rockström said he had someone in mind.

 

“[Håkan] had hunger,” says Rockström, 57, who spent 21 years with the Rangers and now works for the Canadiens. “He would be willing to go the extra mile for a team. And I knew he had a good eye. He’d been a pretty good youth player. He knew about puckhandling, skating, edges. He could look at a skater and tell you if a guy was stiff-kneed or knock-kneed.”

 

Polano flew to Stockholm, where Rockström introduced him to Andersson, a center whose playing career had been cut short before his 18th birthday because of a torn meniscus in his left knee. Polano told Andersson of the job opening in Detroit and then left for a scouting trip to Finland and Russia. When he returned, Polano took Andersson on a traveling job interview around the Swedish Elite League. “I’m telling him what to look for: skating, playmaking ability, hard work, someone who’s not intimidated,” says Polano, now a pro scout for the Senators. “I’d quiz him about this guy or that guy we were watching. And he was bang on. The guy was a natural. After a few days I’m thinking, I’m going to hire a fishing guide.

 

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#2582377 3/15 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Penguins 1

Posted by Jersey Wing on 15 March 2015 - 03:14 PM

"You Penguins are such a disappointing team. ... men who I raised to believe in the Ten Commandments have come back to me as crybabies, with filthy mouths and bad attitudes."

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#2581859 3/15 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Penguins 1

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 14 March 2015 - 10:19 PM

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#2581349 3/14 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Flyers 7

Posted by 55fan on 14 March 2015 - 08:02 AM

We shall win because it's Pi Day!

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#2576945 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 08:58 PM

 
I've followed Jarnkrok's time with Nashville this year, out of curiosity. They played him under 10 minutes for a good part of the year and he still has better numbers than most teams 4th liners. Just wait, Jarnkrok is far from done.
 
I, for one, don't understand why Holland routinely pays higher prices than all other teams for his acquisitions. Not only that...youd think we'd get at least a decent deal out of Yzerman or Nill...but it seems like they are more than happy to deal with Holland, and for good reason. Two decent prospects AND a 2nd for a 36 year old UFA? Two years ago the Stars couldn't of gave him away. Jarnkrok, by himself, is an overpayment for Legwand. Quincey was no where near worth a 1st. Everyone knew those things, the prices that were paid last year were 75% of what we gave for Legwand and it's basically the same this year. I've been nervous for a week, basically knowing we'd make a deal and knowing Holland would over pay. Im terrified that we'll get a good defenseman and trade a really good player. 
 
Are we going to resign Cole? It doesn't seem like it the way the roster is built. Everyone knew we wouldn't resign Legwand, and we shouldn't of...and we gave Jarnkrok for him and for a 1st round exit. I don't think we'll resign Cole, and is he really the piece that will put us over the edge? I think the dman that we should get is a bigger deal...and now we have 2 less prospects and Holland's favorite pick to trade off the table. The only guys left to trade are scary ones to lose.

Have you seen what other teams are paying this year?

This is a fair deal both ways.

And we had to make room for all the centers we drafted last year to come into the system.
Holmstrom, ehn, vahatalo, kadeykin, and turgeon.
Janmark isn't worth all this griping.


#2573447 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by rick zombo on 21 February 2015 - 11:22 PM

Am I the only one who finds this constant "Tank It" joke not really all that funny

 

You realize that we’re talking about a group that thinks “we like our team”  has been top shelf wit for the last 5 years. 




#2568411 Marchenko recalled from GR... Ouellet sent down

Posted by Jesusberg on 04 February 2015 - 10:31 PM

 
Doesn't that seem odd?  I mean, you wouldn't expect that the Wings would want Ouellet and/or Marchenko up in Detroit if they weren't going to play.  And, it doesn't really seem preferable to have them both in the top six at the same time.  Is one of Kronwall/Ericsson/DeKeyser/Quincey/Smith hurt or something?  It doesn't really add up otherwise, does it?


What Mabus said. With Mule on IR, they're only carrying 13 forwards right now. They promised Ouellet he could go on the father-son trip, thus the call-up.


#2568410 Marchenko recalled from GR... Ouellet sent down

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 04 February 2015 - 10:25 PM

Per Khan

 

"The move enables Ouellet to join the team on its annual Fathers/Mentors trip with his dad, Robert, a former professional hockey player in France and Germany.

 

Ouellet is not expected to play Thursday in Colorado - coach Mike Babcock said he was not making any lineup changes from last Saturday's game - but he might play Saturday at Arizona.

 

A roster spot opened for Ouellet when goaltender Tom McCollum was reassigned to the Griffins.

Jonas Gustavsson, already on the active roster, was scheduled to join the Red Wings in Denver on Wednesday night. He completed his two-game conditioning stint for the Griffins earlier in the day, making 30 saves in a 3-1 victory at the Toronto Marlies. Gustavsson, who suffered a dislocated shoulder on Nov. 5, stopped 59 of 62 shots in going 1-1 for the Griffins."

 

http://www.mlive.com...r_ouelle_1.html




#2566099 What should we do with the Monster?

Posted by Euro_Twins on 26 January 2015 - 09:15 PM

 
The guy outplayed Howard last year
 
People are seeing a few games (some good, some average at best) from a young goalie and would already apoint him the backup job. Thats exactly the way of how players are getting their confidence shattered in early years.


He didn't actually outplay Howard at all. Howard had one of his worst years last year and was still better than monster. Howard had almost no goal support while when gustavsson was in net the team scored a full goal more per game. That's the only reason why he won all those games


#2563348 1/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (OT)

Posted by kipwinger on 15 January 2015 - 02:42 PM

Washington doesn't qualify as a good team in your book? I don't think they are elite or anything, but I don't think it is a stretch to put them in the same category as Vancouver.

 

I dicked that whole post up and combined several thoughts into one, which made it all wrong lol.  These were...

 

1)  We need to beat good teams.

2) We haven't played a lot of good teams lately so it's hard to gauge ourselves.

3)  St. Louis is a good team, so it should be a measuring stick game.

 

To answer your question though, yes.  Washington is a good team.  I was completely forgetting about them (despite actually going to that miserable game). 




#2563380 Could the Wings be better off trading Pav & Hank for draft picks?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 15 January 2015 - 06:04 PM

Bolded my responses

A team hovering around middle of the pack for an extended period of time.

We're 4 pts. out of 1st in the East. 

A team that struggles to get the puck out of the defensive zone.

Correct 

A team who's offense is being hampered because they all have to wait around for the puck to advance or stay in the D zone to help get it out.

So we trade away the 2 player with the most points to fix our offence?

A team that has had over six years to address the D in either free agency or trade and has not been able to find the right blend of value.

Sick of this one. After Lidstrom/Rafalski/Stuart leaving there was bound to be readjustment. The D has been fine this year (though it needs offensive upgrade) and we have a lot of great prospects - Our D will be alright going forward.

I see a team that is fun to watch and follow that is going to need an influx of talent within two years and because the new NHL it is tough "for us" to aquire via trade or Free Agency.

Influx of new talent:  XO, Pulkkinen, Sproul, Marchenko, Jensen, Mantha, Athanasiou, Mrazek, Larkin, Melen (for BottleofSmoke)

There are contending teams on the edge that DO have quality prospects that could contribute in a couple years.

LIke us? (See above)

How long is Hank goung to love having his lower back targeted 80 games a year without a real shot at going deep into the playoffs?

He signed the huge deal - he knew there would be down years. He's won a cup, played in the playoff every year of his career - few players can say that. I doubt his view on the situation is as yours is. 

Is Pav satisfied playing withought the opportunity to go deep?

The fact that he just re-signed and said he wanted to end his NHL career here says he's happy with the situation/direction 

Are Hank & Pav are content, I hope they are.  I really do.  It's a board. it's about exchanging ides.

Agreed, but you should have known your proposal would be greeted with a lot of push back.