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[hckypete96 3]

Ok, so you guys are probably sick of these threads, but I think this one is the best on the LGW forums so far. I have listed some UFA's that I think would look good here in Detroit, and some players who could easily be traded for.

Ok so here we go, sorry if this gets too long....

UNDER CONTRACT

Forwards

Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Homer/Draper/Sammy/Franzen/Fil/Cleary/Hudler/Grigorenko/Maltby

We need two forwards, minimum. Two D. One goalie. The wings have 10-12 million to spend this off season.

Goalies (UFA)

Hasek: There are pro's and con's to Dom coming back. Pro's being how great he played this year, con's being the risk of him getting hurt. I still want him to come back, but I don't see it happening. What does he have left to prove? He has already silenced critics, if he retires now, he still leaves on a high note. Please come back Dom, it would make things much easier. If we re-sign him, I bet it'll be around 1.5 million for one year.

Jean-Sebastien Giguere: If Dom retires, this would be the guy to get. Of course, 29 other teams feel the same way. If the Ducks win the cup, and Jiggy wins his 2nd conn smythe, I don't see how the Ducks would consider getting rid of him. Anyhow if we throw 6 million at him

Eddie Belfour: Oh Eddie the eagle.... could be a last resort for around $800,000

Curtis Joseph: How could I suggest Cujo right?? I mean he played awful last year... most say he's washed up... got nothin left...that worked out well with a different guy named Hasek... could work out well with Cujo for real cheap.

Nicklas Backstrom: Young, played great, and the Wild can't handle hang on to him and Manny any longer. We could try to go for one of them.

Goalies (via trade)

Vesa Toskala: Still young at 29, and the Sharks have already said they are trading a goalie this summer. Which one will it be... Toskala or Nabokov? My guess is Toskala, because Nabby was their guy in the playoffs, and he has a NTC. The only thing I wonder is whether or not the sharks would trade with the team that knocked them out of the playoffs... we shall see...

Ilya Bryzgalov: Like I said before, the Ducks will want to re-sign Jiggy especially if he wins the Conn Smythe again. They can't hold on to both of them any longer, so why not try and trade for Bryz? He is a very capable starter, and is young.

Manny Fernandez: If the Wild choose to bring back Backstrom, then I think Manny will be dealt. He is a proven starter, and a good tender. In fact, I just read on spectors that Manny has demanded a trade, and listed Detroit as a potential destination. Only thing is that he is 4.5 mill which is a tad pricey...

Defensemen

The way I see it, the wings don't need to sign any new defenseman. They could actually cut Markov loose, because I think that Lilja played well enough in the playoffs to earn a top 6 spot. Anyhow, here are some names.

Schneider: I say re-sign him at two years 6 million.

Markov: I don't see the wings resigning him, although I do like him. 2.5 million

Chelios: Def coming back for one year at one million baby!

Kimmo Timmonen: This guy will want 6 million a year, but we could make it happen if we signed cheap forwards and Dom for cheap. Very unlikely, but hey anything's possible.

Cory Sarich: Gritty defenseman who would look great here.

Forwards (UFA)

Bertuzzi: I think he is a lock to resign, hopefully around the 2million for one year mark.

Vyacheslav Kozlov: Loved him when he was in Detroit, still love him. I think he would be a steal at 2million and would fit right in on our 2nd line.

Dainius Zubrus: looked great with the Sabres in the playoffs, I'd sign him cheap.

Ladislav Nagy: Had a bad year, but could be worth a cheap signing...

Petr Sykora: Had a great beginning of the season and is a pure goal scorer, problem is that the Oilers stopped scoring goals...

Scott Hartnell: Good gritty guy who could be signed for cheap.

Paul Kariya: It's crazy, but I haven't heard anything on LGW about getting this guy.... he's an elite player and led the Pred's in scoring...

Jason Blake: This guy is sick, and there were rumors that the wings were trying to trade for him at the last minutes of the deadline. 40 goal scorer with great hands, the only knock on him is his size.... but I think a bert, flip, blake line would look god like, dont you?

Viktor Kozlov: Had a big year with the Isles. He is slow, but he's a big body who can also put the puck in the net, which is exactly what we need.

Owen Nolan: Wings tried to trade for him at the deadline, but Nolan didn't want to come here for family reasons. I forget what the reasons were, but he could be good for cheap. He was 2nd on the Yotes in points w/ 40 which isnt great,but its not bad.

Yanic Perreault: Best face off man in the league and he had a great year. I know we don't really need centers, but he would still look nice wearing the winged wheel.

Anson Carter: I know, I know, what am I thinking right? He had a terrible year with the jackets/canes but if there is one thing we learned about Carter this year, is that he is worthless UNLESS he has two studs setting him up, and all he has to do is finish. I think we have two studs he would work well with in Datsyuk and Zetterberg, and he would be worth signing for 1.5 mil I think.

Forwards (via trade)

1) Raffi Torres: 34 points last year, was not impressive, which is why he is currently on Lowe's s*** list. He's a good gritty forward who isn't afraid to throw his weight around (remember the hit on willy?) the guy plays with an edge and would be a huge asset to our team and at under 1 million, he is very affordable. Plus the guy is only 24!

2) Sergei Samsonov: Over paid? Maybe, but this kid can play. His calder trophy was no mistake, this kid can dangle. Can you imagine him playing with Bert and flip? How about Z and bert? Dats and Z? He would be great.

3) Marty Lapointe: I heard rumors that we tried to get him at the deadline, would be a solid addition to our team, even though he would be a bit pricey.

I had thought of some more guys, but I just got tired. Here's what I think we should do with the 12 million we have to spend.

Goaltending:

I truly believe that Dom will retire, and it does pain me to say that. Anyhow if he does retire, I think trading for Fernandez is a must. Wild would just be trying to get rid of cap space, so I think a prospect and a 2nd rounder would do the trick. He would be perfect because his conrtact is up in 2 years, and we could have him start next year w/ Ozzy backing him up, then have him start in 08-09 with Howard backing him up, then have Howard start in 09-10.

Cap hit: 4.5 Million

Ok, so I have 7.5 million to spend on 2 forwards and two Defenseman.

Defense:

I liked what I saw in this year's playoffs. The wings truly showed how deep they are, which is why I think they can cut Markov loose. We need cap room and Markov would probably want a raise up to 3 mil. Anyhow here's what I say do with the D.

Sign Schneider to 2 year 6 million dollar deal.

Sign Cheli to a one year one million dollar deal.

Cap hit: 4 million

Ok, so now I have 3.5 million to work with for 2 forwards. Here's what I would do...

SIgn Bertuzzi to a one year, 2 million dollar deal.

Trade for Raffi Torres... perhaps Erikson and a pick...I think we lose him to waivers if we don't bring him up this year, but I'm not positive. someone can correct me on that.

Ohter option, sign Anson Carter (god i'm going to get yelled at for this one) at 1.5 million.

Cap hit: 3.5 million

That makes the team all set.

forwards (with carter)

Z Dats Carter

Bert Flip Clears

Homer Franz Huds

Kops Drapes Malts

Sammy/Grigs

forwards (with Torres)

Z Dats Homer

Bert Flip Torres

Huds Franz Sammy

Cleary Drapes Malts

Kops/Grigs

Defense:

Lidstrom Kronwall

Schneider Lebda

Chelly Lilja

Goalies:

Fernandez

Osgood

If Hasek Re-signs....

Do same thing on defense... so thats a 4 million dollar cap hit

Goaltending: Re-sign dom for 1.5 million

Ok that means I have 6.5 million to spend on two forwards....

Re-sign Bertuzzi for one year 2 million.

Sign Jason Blake for two years 9 million.

Cap HIt: 6.5 Million

Forwards:

Z Dats Homer

Bert Flip Blake

Huds Franz Sammy

Cleary Draper Maltby

sorry for a really long post but if you read all of this you get a cookie!

[Izzy24 44]

Let Markov go?

Raffi Torres? :puke:

[Salviaman 104]

Paul Kariya does not deserve to wear the winged wheel.

[skacore 2]

I like some of the trade options you put up there (Torres/Lapointe) but I don't understand why people list a set of 4 lines and then at the bottom they put Kopecky/Grigorenko, or Hudler/Grigorenko... not gonna happen, this is not NHL07 on your game console... Grigorenko is coming over to play. At this point I think Hudler HAS to be trade bait we simply do not have room for him..

Grigorenko Datsyuk Bertuzzi

Holmstrom Zetterberg Samuelsson

Cleary Filppula Franzen

Maltby Draper Kopecky

(if Ellis resigns with the organization he will most likely be used as #13, unless Wings make a big signing we might see Kopecky here)

Calder: don't resign

Hudler: like I said, I think he's gotta be tradebait or something...

For D..

Lidstrom Kronwall

Schneider Lilja

Lebda Chelios

(#7 Quincey/Meech, possibly Kindl)

I'd rather Markov > Schneider but I think we're gonna end up with these D, we simply don't have room to pick up any UFA (like Sarich), unless we decide to let both Schneider and Markov go but I really really don't see that happening, our D was fantastic this year....

Goalies will remain Hasek/Osgood

[hckypete96 3]

hey thanks for the responses guys. I just don't see the need for markov, i like the guy and all but we simply dont have room for him. Lilja really stepped up his play as did Quincey.... so I think Markov is a goner. As for Torres, he would fit in very nicely with this team. He is a fierce competitor.... even if he is an oiler

As for the dude that thinks that Grigorenko is playing this year, I think not. He will most likely play in grand rapids or be the 13th/14th forward, because the wings are far too deep.

[skacore 2]

hey thanks for the responses guys. I just don't see the need for markov, i like the guy and all but we simply dont have room for him. Lilja really stepped up his play as did Quincey.... so I think Markov is a goner. As for Torres, he would fit in very nicely with this team. He is a fierce competitor.... even if he is an oiler

As for the dude that thinks that Grigorenko is playing this year, I think not. He will most likely play in grand rapids or be the 13th/14th forward, because the wings are far too deep.

I kind of hope I am wrong because I would love to see a spot upon up for some grit and size, but I am pretty certain that Grigorenko is atleast going to start the season as a scoring line winger and I'm excited to see what he can do

Edited May 31, 2007 by skacore

[hckypete96 3]

Grigs has a clause in his contract that'll allow him to go back home to Russia within a few weeks after the start of the reg season; basically if he's stuck in the minors @ the start of the season he could go home dry.gif .....Me thinks he's gonna find a spot on the Red Wings roster for the month of October, & possibly November before being sent to GR (if he doesn't pan out in Detroit.)

ahhh i was not aware of the grigs contract. thanks! So I guess he really will be the 13th forward, for a little while at least. These guys posting here and putting him on our top line are retarded.... he hasn't even played an AHL game led alone an NHL game.... we have no idea how good he will be.

p.s. I'd sign markov for 2million but there's no way he will take that pay cut when he had a good season last year

Edited May 31, 2007 by hckypete96

[Guest bullocks]

Nice post, anyways i'll put in my input. In goal we'll re-sign Hasek. At D i think we'll only get one or two either schneider or markov...prolly schneider, i like markov tho too. If all else fails go after Sarich we need some big bodies. Re-sign Chelly as well. Up front, re-sign Bertuzzi...pass on kozlov unless u can get him at around $2 million. Zubrus i also liked in the post season with Buffalo. Pass on nagy, sykora, kariya, blake, kozlov, and perrault. Their all ******* for what kind of salary they'll demand. Except perrault, he's just a *****. Maybe Victor kozlov he's a big body but isn't too fast. Nolan is too old, and Carter just sucks. Sign Hartnell, he can put the puck in the net and has gritt. I also liked ur idea in trading for raffi torres i like that alot. Samsonov is a joke, and Lapointe...let's not go back in the past too much here.

If we don't re-sign Schneider i'd definately make a push for kimmo timmonen liek you said for some offence back there, but he will demand too much. Let's just hope we get schneids back.

All in all i think our roster will look the same without lang and calder. Add in grigs, maybe harnell. That's about all she wrote.

Edited May 31, 2007 by bullocks

[skacore 2]

ahhh i was not aware of the grigs contract. thanks! So I guess he really will be the 13th forward, for a little while at least. These guys posting here and putting him on our top line are retarded.... he hasn't even played an AHL game led alone an NHL game.... we have no idea how good he will be.

p.s. I'd sign markov for 2million but there's no way he will take that pay cut when he had a good season last year

I wasn't aware that I'm retarded but anyways, what would YOU change about these lines then? I'm curious...

Grigorenko Datsyuk Bertuzzi

Holmstrom Zetterberg Samuelsson

Cleary Filppula Franzen

Maltby Draper Kopecky

you can type in Zetterberg's line ahead of Datsyuk's if you feel necessary, but in the end it's the same, we have 2 (hopefully) big lines that will be a huge scoring threat, some offense/grinding on our 3rd, and grinding/defensive awareness on our 4th.. because Grigorenko is on that line doesn't necessarily mean he is getting top minutes, Zetterberg can take shifts on the wing, and he will not be getting #1 PP time or any time on the PK

I like those lines because I think they would have some nice chemisty and it's something to work around... 2 fast, agile, shifty Russians with Bertuzzi's size could be lethal, Z's line should work with all of them being Swedish and having played with each other before, Z can play set up man, Samuelsson loves to shoot, and you know what Homer is all about... Cleary/Filppula/Franzen all have great hustle and forechecking abilities and they are all coming into their own in the NHL and I think this would be a fastastic combination of size and skill.... 4th line doesn't need any explanation

you don't bring over an elite scorer from Russia and give him 5 minutes a game on a checking line, sorry

[Guest bullocks]

:rotflmao:

am i right tho?

[Guest bullocks]

Yes - yes my good man you're right!

seriously tho, all those guys are babies...they put up numbers in the regular season, most of them are under-sized figure skaters that disappear in the playoffs. the ones that were in the playoffs this season they were all gone first round and did nothing but hide on the bench because their scared of getting body blasted.

we need to build our team up so we can beat teams like san jose and anaheim again next year. not sign fairies that where dresses.

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

seriously tho, all those guys are babies...they put up numbers in the regular season, most of them are under-sized figure skaters that disappear in the playoffs. the ones that were in the playoffs this season they were all gone first round and did nothing but hide on the bench because their scared of getting body blasted.

we need to build our team up so we can beat teams like san jose and anaheim again next year. not sign fairies that where dresses.

Totally agree with you bud, None of those guy's are the type of player's that the Wings need. They don't deserve to play with a Winged Wheel on their chest.

[spydrwebb 0]

Ok, so you guys are probably sick of these threads, but I think this one is the best on the LGW forums so far. I have listed some UFA's that I think would look good here in Detroit, and some players who could easily be traded for.

Ok so here we go, sorry if this gets too long....

Eddie Belfour: Oh Eddie the eagle.... could be a last resort for around $800,000

sorry for a really long post but if you read all of this you get a cookie!

great post... i'll take an oatmeal raisin one hot from the oven.

the only thing i have to say is NO EDDIE BELFOUR... the guy's a train wreck.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Carter sucks , Nagy sucks, Zubrus is a loser seriously , He'll never win anything, Samsonov is IMO the worst player in the NHL, and Kozlov(Viktor) is an unmotivated worse version of Lang.

We dont need small europeans , We have 2 and there the best ones out there. We dont need sub par ones.

Smyth , Torres , Hartnell , all good choices. I'd take Kariya for 2-3 million nothing more

Edited May 31, 2007 by Detroit # 1 Fan

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

Carter sucks , Nagy sucks , Samsonov is IMO the worst player in the NHL.

We dont need small europeans , We have 2 and there the best ones out there. We dont need sub par ones.

Smyth , Torres , Hartnell , all good choices.

I wouldn't mind Torres , I think he'd be a good fit with the Wings.

[raasc1dj 0]

Cu-Jo??? I dont think so... we all saw how well that worked out the first time. He doesnt fit in Detroit!

we need a right handed d-man to replace samuelsson on the point becasue he simply isnt working there.. all other teams did was team up on Lidstrom and Samuelsson couldnt get teh job done. Thats where a goof right handed d-man would come in handy because it will take the pressure off Lidstrom.... and besides for two years now we have tried to go with 5 lefties and 1 righty and it hasnt worked.

[Winged Scooter 0]

Me thinks Hartnell would make a nice addition

I wouldn't mind Hartnell either, but could you imagine the uproar here on LGW because of his rep?

But as a bonus IF we had Hartnell at least he couldn't run OUR goalies!

[Guest ZDH]

I'd wet my pants if we got both Hartnell and Torres. Have Flip centre that 2nd line and let em go baby! Think Lowe would take Hudler for Torres? Likely not.

Edited May 31, 2007 by ZDH

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

I'd wet my pants if we got both Hartnell and Torres. Have Flip centre that 2nd line and let em go baby! Think Lowe would take Hudler for Torres? Likely not.

I'm not a big fan of Hartnell . but I must admit that would be one hell of a line.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Why would we want 2 overated players like Hartnell and Torres, I thought the idea was to get some added toughness to the roster! Not a couple of soft, turtling North Americans who had 4 fighting majors between them last year! I'd sooner bring in Big Snake for entertainment

value, at least he would stick up for his teammates and be cheap!!

[Guest bullocks]

Why would we want 2 overated players like Hartnell and Torres, I thought the idea was to get some added toughness to the roster! Not a couple of soft, turtling North Americans who had 4 fighting majors between them last year! I'd sooner bring in Big Snake for entertainment

value, at least he would stick up for his teammates and be cheap!!

Hartnell and Torres and both tough, i don't know what your talking about. Especially Torres can throw his body around nice.

[FinWing 26]

I'd wet my pants if we got both Hartnell and Torres. Have Flip centre that 2nd line and let em go baby!

What a relentless line that would be. A total pain in the arse!

[Guest ZDH]

What a relentless line that would be. A total pain in the arse!

I know! Could you imagine? WOW.

Why would we want 2 overated players like Hartnell and Torres, I thought the idea was to get some added toughness to the roster! Not a couple of soft, turtling North Americans who had 4 fighting majors between them last year! I'd sooner bring in Big Snake for entertainment

value, at least he would stick up for his teammates and be cheap!!

Overrated? How so? Hartnell plays with grit and is tough to play against and can score 30 goals if he plays with a talented centre such as Flip. Torres hits everything in sight and was a big part of the Oilers '06 Playoff Run. I'd take both of those overrated players on my team any day of the week. A Cup winning team can't have 12 30 goal scorers on their team. Players need roles to play and the best teams recognize that, like Bowman did when he was here.

[FinWing 26]

I know! Could you imagine? WOW.

Nobody would like to play against them. Definitely not a lazy-and-sucks line!

[Kp-Wings 3]

Some of those guys, like Carter or Nagy, I wouldn't even consider signing.

I keep trying to tell everyone that Hartnell is the way to go here. The guy can come somewhat cheap, maybe around 2 million, and he's the perfect kind of player the Wings need. He has the potential to put up 30 goals, and at the same time, plays a gritty game, and even drops the gloves. Regardless of his past, like with Fischer and what not, I'd still welcome him here. He's exactly what the Wings need.