Guest bullocks Report post Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) http://www.nhl.com Who will win the Norris Trophy as most outstanding defenseman at Thursday's NHL Awards Show? N. Lidstrom (DET) 41.99% S. Niedermayer (ANA) 47.69% C. Pronger (ANA) 10.32% Lidstrom is losing ;[ NOTE: The poll is at the bottom right Edited June 12, 2007 by bullocks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey&beer 16 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 http://www.nhl.com Who will win the Norris Trophy as most outstanding defenseman at Thursday's NHL Awards Show? N. Lidstrom (DET) 41.99% S. Niedermayer (ANA) 47.69% C. Pronger (ANA) 10.32% Lidstrom is losing ;[ Keep in mind, Niedermayer just won the Cup, therefore he is top-of-mind.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Keep in mind, Niedermayer just won the Cup, therefore he is top-of-mind.... ye i know...but also remember how many times we skated circles around him in our series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
96Homer 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 umm ok where do you find the link to vote at, can't find it on the site? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevieisthebest 80 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 good thing they dont make the decision based on who won the NHL.com poll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted June 12, 2007 umm ok where do you find the link to vote at, can't find it on the site? bottom right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
96Homer 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 oh ok already voted then wasn't sure if that was it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Lidstrom is so underrated amongst non-Wings fans..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Maybe i'm being a bit of a homer here , but for me Lidstrom should win the Norris this season . Had a great first season as the Captain of the Wings , and was his normal dominant self as the best Defenceman in the NHL. Neidermayer also had a good season but IMO I don't think he was better than Nick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 No worries. The important vote will have Lids taking the trophy once again. Keep in mind, Niedermayer just won the Cup, therefore he is top-of-mind.... So did Pronger, yet he's sitting at a distant third. That being said, it's not like what happens in the playoffs matters anyway, since the vote is based on the regular season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chelios4eva 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Lidstrom is so underrated amongst non-Wings fans..... I wouldn't say that, i mean he did win 4 norris trophey's, 3 being consecutive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 The pick is made before the post season. So SN's playoff performance doesn't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted June 12, 2007 I just voted. As if Nicky boy even needs our votes. lol He's got the Norris locked down. They might as well start calling it the Lidstrom Trophy. Woooooo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 I wouldn't say that, i mean he did win 4 norris trophey's, 3 being consecutive. Yes, but that isn't the fans, it's the writers and members of the media that are generally more knowledgeable than the average fan.... in my experiences and conversations with other hockey fans, Lidstrom is hardly recognized to be as great as he is..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey&beer 16 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) My personal (like it really matters) opinion is the two indicators for a fine defensemen is +/- and PIM. A D-man is useless in the box, and if he cannot help prevent the oposition from scoring when he's on the ice .... seems simple to me. Nick clearly out performed the rest of the field. Edited June 12, 2007 by hockey&beer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Apparently Pronger's family makes up about 10% of nhl.com's current traffic. I tried voting twice, and the first time the vote total was 2093, and the second time it was 2091... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) ye i know...but also remember how many times we skated circles around him in our series. ...also, remember the official Norris (and other trophy) votes are done after the regular season, NOT after the playoffs. So whomever is Norris Champion was voted for after the season ended. I remember this because when Vladdy was up for Norris in 97 all the writers (who voted) had said he would have hands down won the Norris considering what had happened, he would have been the sentimental favorite, if the vote had happened after the Cup finals. So, with that in mind, it shouldn't matter that the ducks were handed the cup and will have NO influence on the Norris. Except when it comes to fans voting on a survey that was put up AFTER the SCF's... ...also, looking at the stats between the 3 of them, I think Neidermayer will get the Norris, because he had more goals/points than Nick. Nick FAR out does Scott by the +/- though, +40 to +6. Will that get Lidstrom the Norris? Edited June 12, 2007 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 http://www.nhl.com N. Lidstrom (DET) 41.99% S. Niedermayer (ANA) 47.69% C. Pronger (ANA) 10.32% Lidstrom is losing ;[ I voted, UPDATE: N. Lidstrom (DET) 43.06% S. Niedermayer (ANA) 47.27% C. Pronger (ANA) 9.68% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest homertime Report post Posted June 12, 2007 It seems as though NHL.com does not even count the votes. I voted about 20 times and each time the vote total skipped arround. It went higher than lower than back higher (as did Nicky's %). I just think they are doing this to make everyone feel important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted June 12, 2007 ...also, remember the official Norris (and other trophy) votes are done after the regular season, NOT after the playoffs. So whomever is Norris Champion was voted for after the season ended. I remember this because when Vladdy was up for Norris in 97 all the writers (who voted) had said he would have hands down won the Norris considering what had happened, he would have been the sentimental favorite, if the vote had happened after the Cup finals. So, with that in mind, it shouldn't matter that the ducks were handed the cup and will have NO influence on the Norris. Except when it comes to fans voting on a survey that was put up AFTER the SCF's... ...also, looking at the stats between the 3 of them, I think Neidermayer will get the Norris, because he had more goals/points than Nick. Nick FAR out does Scott by the +/- though, +40 to +6. Will that get Lidstrom the Norris? yah i know it's a regular season award. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 I keep voting. Let's get our boy at #1! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MUDSHARK 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) ye i know...but also remember how many times we skated circles around him in our series. Yeah, that cuts both ways, though. Nick didn't look too good a few times this postseason, either. Plus, he's a Swede, and all those Canadian press boys are eatin up the Canadian boy done good thing with Niedermayer- unfortunately, I think Nick's gonna get screwed again. Based on the regular season, there's no way Niedermayer deserves this award- but he's gonna get it, I bet. Edited June 13, 2007 by MUDSHARK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted June 13, 2007 I keep voting. Let's get our boy at #1! i think u can only vote once...or atleast it'll only count it once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VikingMark 5 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Voted Lidstrom, of course .. Long may he Reign! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Maybe i'm being a bit of a homer here , but for me Lidstrom should win the Norris this season . Had a great first season as the Captain of the Wings , and was his normal dominant self as the best Defenceman in the NHL. Neidermayer also had a good season but IMO I don't think he was better than Nick. I don't know, I have a bad feeling about this one. Nick was hands down the best D-man in the regular season. But things are just going Nieds way. Remember Nick won the Cup, Smythe and Norris all in one year...I just have a suspicion the voters don't want to give it to Nick again - even though he clearly deserves it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites