zata40 3 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 In my opinion Lids will be the next wing to have there number up in the rafters. I see no reason why not. The wings have had lot of great players over the years, but only a small hand full had been great enough to get there number retired, and i think lids belongs in that category. He's one of the best defenseman to ever have played in the the game of hockey. He's won 3 cups and many awards. But most important of all is, lids has been a wing his whole carere, a true wing. here's a list of some things that i think qualify him to have His number retired. -he's won 5 of the last 6 norris trophies, only doug harvy and bobby orr have won more. plus he was nominated a total of eight times for the norris, and he is the first European player in NHL awarded the Norris Trophy. -there are 73 defenseman in the hockey hall of fame. only 21 defenseman have ever won the trophy Norris. so it's easy to say, one day his name will be there. -nominated a total of eight times for the Norris -he was second best his rookie year. -3 cups -Played in NHL All-Star Game in 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2007 -15-year of being a wing, plus more to come. -the best replacement for captian after Steve left. -he plays 20+ minutes a game -14th defenseman to ever record 600 assists -he's been one of our alternate captian since the 97-98 season -the whole league recognizes him as one of the best in the NHL. -Gold medal at the 1991 World Championship. -Named to the NHL All-Rookie Team in 1992 -he has one Conn Smythe Trophy -Olympic gold medal with Sweden in 2006 -Detroit Red Wings' franchise record for points in a season for a defenseman, 2005-06 (he had 81 points) I know i missed some things, but you get the point. So......what do you guys think, do you agree his number should be retired and sent up to the rafters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) Yes, and I believe it will as long as he retires a Wing, and I don't say that lightly. Keep in mind I don't think Federov or Shanny should have their numbers retired in Detroit even though for some reason a good number of people around here do. Edited October 19, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 I would say there is a 100% chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 I personally think this one is viewed as a gimme, kinda like with Stevie, it'll happen the opening day, the year after he retires... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) nm Edited October 19, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Oh for sure it's gonna happen, after all he's one of the best defensemen EVER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Even if it's not put up in the rafters for some time, no one will ever wear #5 again for the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 undoubtedly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turkey 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 If this didn't happen I think I would assume the whole world had gone crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Make the topic more interesting, is there anyone who doesn't think Lidstrom his going to get his number retired? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Yes, and I believe it will as long as he retires a Wing, and I don't say that lightly. Keep in mind I don't think Federov or Shanny should have their numbers retired in Detroit even though for some reason a good number of people around here do. If fedder would have stayed with us then yes, we would have retired is number. now shanny, if we would have never left us to go to the rangers then i think he should have gone up too, even though he didnt come to us until 97. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) If fedder would have stayed with us then yes, we would have retired is number. now shanny, if we would have never left us to go to the rangers then i think he should have gone up too, even though he didnt come to us until 97. Federov is up for debate had he stayed a Wing, but I disagree with Shanny. But that's another topic. Edited October 19, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildwings44 5 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Yes, and I believe it will as long as he retires a Wing, and I don't say that lightly. Keep in mind I don't think Federov or Shanny should have their numbers retired in Detroit even though for some reason a good number of people around here do. I agree, Lids will go the rafters after finishing his career with the Wings. I'll be there to see it and John you'll probably have season tickets by then, so you'll be there too. I love Shanny, but he doesn't deserve to be hanging from the Joe/new arena. Fedorov - there is not even a case for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) I feel very strongly about the numbers that are retired in Detroit, and although I *greatly* appreciate what Shanny did for the Wings, I just don't feel as if his number should be retired in Detroit even if he had finished his career in Hockeytown. Edited October 19, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
good morning 10 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Yes, and I believe it will as long as he retires a Wing. He better not retire as anything else! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 He better not retire as anything else! there would be riots in LGW if he went to another team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZattaBurger 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 If feds would have stayed a wing there's no way in hell he wouldnt be up there .. all the records he has recorded as a wing thats hhuugge.. Plus all those GW's .. Shanny shouldnt even get a honorable mention Feds 1993-94 Hart Memorial Trophy 1993-94 Frank J. Selke Trophy 1993-94 Lester B. Pearson Trophy 1995-96 Frank J. Selke Trophy ga goa ass pnts Sergei Fedorov C 908 400 554 954 4th all time in Redwings POINTS Shanny 2002-03 King Clancy Memorial Trophy ga goa ass pnt Brendan Shanahan 716 309 324 633 8th alltime in Redwings POINTS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jaytan Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Unless we find out that Lids has a few dozen headless women buried in his backyard, I'd say it's a fair bet that the Wings will retire his number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted October 19, 2007 In my opinion Lids will be the next wing to have there number up in the rafters. I see no reason why not. The wings have had lot of great players over the years, but only a small hand full had been great enough to get there number retired, and i think lids belongs in that category. He's one of the best defenseman to ever have played in the the game of hockey. He's won 3 cups and many awards. But most important of all is, lids has been a wing his whole carere, a true wing. here's a list of some things that i think qualify him to have His number retired. -he's won 5 of the last 6 norris trophies, only doug harvy and bobby orr have won more. plus he was nominated a total of eight times for the norris, and he is the first European player in NHL awarded the Norris Trophy. -there are 73 defenseman in the hockey hall of fame. only 21 defenseman have ever won the trophy Norris. so it's easy to say, one day his name will be there. -nominated a total of eight times for the Norris -he was second best his rookie year. -3 cups -Played in NHL All-Star Game in 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2007 -15-year of being a wing, plus more to come. -the best replacement for captian after Steve left. -he plays 20+ minutes a game -14th defenseman to ever record 600 assists -he's been one of our alternate captian since the 97-98 season -the whole league recognizes him as one of the best in the NHL. -Gold medal at the 1991 World Championship. -Named to the NHL All-Rookie Team in 1992 -he has one Conn Smythe Trophy -Olympic gold medal with Sweden in 2006 -Detroit Red Wings' franchise record for points in a season for a defenseman, 2005-06 (he had 81 points) I know i missed some things, but you get the point. So......what do you guys think, do you agree his number should be retired and sent up to the rafters? Absolutely, no doubt about it. Lidstrom's number 5 will be up in those rafters. For sure. There will never be another #5 for the Detroit Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Unless we find out that Lids has a few dozen headless women buried in his backyard, I'd say it's a fair bet that the Wings will retire his number. I know for a fact he dosen't bury them in HIS backyard I mean...what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jaytan Report post Posted October 19, 2007 If fedder would have stayed with us then yes, we would have retired is number. now shanny, if we would have never left us to go to the rangers then i think he should have gone up too, even though he didnt come to us until 97. Even if both guys stayed as Wings and retired in Detroit, I wouldn't retire either number. The Red Wings have a higher standard than most franchises for retiring numbers, and if we retired every guy who led the team in scoring for a couple years or was a frequent all-star, there wouldn't be any numbers left after a few decades. I know for a fact he dosen't bury them in HIS backyard I mean...what? yeah, but what's to stop chris chelios from murdering a bunch of hookers and leaving them in lidstrom's backyard so he doesn't get caught? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 yeah, but what's to stop chris chelios from murdering a bunch of hookers and leaving them in lidstrom's backyard so he doesn't get caught? Whats to stop Chris Chelios from finding a "teamwide" burial spot? where every Wing player dumps their decapitated hookers. except Larry Murphy...he's got too many to bury in one spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 I know this is off topic, but I don't think it warrants it's own because it is so close. What about Draper, This is his 14th season with the Wings and is hoping to sign for three more years. He was a huge part in the Left Wing Lock that helped win three Stanley Cups. He has a Selke and has been one of the most dedicated, hard working players to ever wear the winged wheel. Why not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) nevermind Edited October 19, 2007 by Elshupacabra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites