PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 Article Its awesome to hear hes still around the wings organization and that hes pushing to get his body back in game form. I cant believe they discussed him coming back in the fall.. that s***s crazy.. mayhbe next year?? lids-kron big fish-brian lebda-cheli quincy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 I can't see him ever playing again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 Not gonna happen. He's 27, married and has a kid. There's really more in life than hockey... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 although I could never see him coming back, I would love it... he had the makings to be not only great, but elite... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 The other thing besides being healthy, lets just say for arguments sake, he gets cleared to play hockey again. What kind of shape is he going to be in, will he be in NHL shape or has it been too long. Look at the rust players get after a couple of months on the shelf, this guy has been on the shelf for years now. I wish him the best, and think for the sake of his family he should hang them up for good, but then again I have never been a pro athlete and had it (and almost my life I might add) from me. Either way I wish him the best!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) I don't want him to come back. The fact of the matter is that the technology in the medical profession isn't capable (at this point) to say with 100% certainty that another incident like this won't happen again. As was already stated Fisch has a wife and kid, and I wouldn't risk that for anything in the world. Until our technology can catch up to his condition he shouldn't risk it. Edited November 2, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 ...give it up, he is alive, that is more important. He would never be what he once was, and he wasn't even that great, sure he had the potential and had one solid season, but if he attempted a come back now, he'd only be taking up a roster spot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 I don't want him to come back. The fact of the matter is that the technology in the medical profession isn't capable (at this point) to say with 100% certainty that another incident like this won't happen again. As was already stated Fisch has a wife and kid, and I wouldn't risk that for anything in the world. Until our technology can catch up to his condition he shouldn't risk it. I'm fairly certain the medical profession can't say that about anyone else currently on the roster. Nothing is 100% certain, apart from that death thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 From the conversation I had with Jiri yesterday, it sounded like he really wanted to come back. He's trying his best to come back, I believe he'll come back, maybe not this year, but he'll play again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 I'm fairly certain the medical profession can't say that about anyone else currently on the roster. Nothing is 100% certain, apart from that death thing. What do you mean? I'm referring to when Jiri made his "retirement" press conference and stated that the medical profession just isn't far enough to say with 100% certainty that playing again *won't* trigger another incident. Of course nothing is 100% certain for anyone in life, but most players don't have the heart history that Jiri does. That's what I'm referring to. From the conversation I had with Jiri yesterday, it sounded like he really wanted to come back. He's trying his best to come back, I believe he'll come back, maybe not this year, but he'll play again. Seriously? You know (and talk) to Fischer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 Seriously? You know (and talk) to Fischer? I dont really know him, he was travelling with the Wings at the Flames game, and afterwards in the autograph session thing, he was standing there so i went over and started to talk to him. And thats when we got into talking about if he'd ever play again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 I dont really know him, he was travelling with the Wings at the Flames game, and afterwards in the autograph session thing, he was standing there so i went over and started to talk to him. And thats when we got into talking about if he'd ever play again. Gotcha. Thanks for the update though. It's always nice to get the scoop from the guy himself rather than the media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 You gotta wonder what being allowed to hang out with, travel with, workout with the wings has done to keep his emotions up. I have got to think that it has helped keep him a little bit more positive than if he hadn't been. In this day and age of what have you done for me lately pro sports it is good to see an org keep a guy around the team and franchise even though he is probably done with his career and his career was very short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNut199 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 He's says in the article he wants to play again and has been steadily increasing the intensity of his training.. so why is it so hard to believe he will play again? I keep my fingers crossed that one day he'll be back in the winged wheel.. but I also got them crossed that something like this will never happen to him again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) You gotta wonder what being allowed to hang out with, travel with, workout with the wings has done to keep his emotions up. I have got to think that it has helped keep him a little bit more positive than if he hadn't been. In this day and age of what have you done for me lately pro sports it is good to see an org keep a guy around the team and franchise even though he is probably done with his career and his career was very short. QFT Case and point: Vladdy. From what I've heard Illitch still takes care of him financially. Even if its only somewhat, that speaks volumes about Illitch and the class that surrounds the Wings organization. Edited November 2, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 He's says in the article he wants to play again and has been steadily increasing the intensity of his training.. so why is it so hard to believe he will play again? I keep my fingers crossed that one day he'll be back in the winged wheel.. but I also got them crossed that something like this will never happen to him again Because they still don't have a handle on what caused it and how to prevent it from happening again. Training is one thing, being out in the game where emotions run high (which also impact heart rate), where he will get hit again, those are things I am not sure his heart can handle and neither is the medical profession. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNut199 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) Because they still don't have a handle on what caused it and how to prevent it from happening again. Training is one thing, being out in the game where emotions run high (which also impact heart rate), where he will get hit again, those are things I am not sure his heart can handle and neither is the medical profession. But its like other people said.. nothing in the medical profession is 100% regardless of your condition.. I have no doubt that IF (and I suppose thats a big if) he is cleared to play again one day, he will play. Now thats not me saying he's going to be the same guy he was 2 years ago but you can see from his comments that he has the right attitude and will be willing to work hard to get back to his old form. And for all the people who are saying its just hockey, he has a family and kid, blah blah.. I'm sure he's thought about that long and hard for the past 2 years and is still making this comments so I think I'll just let Jiri worry about his family.. Edited November 2, 2007 by WingNut199 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 QFT Case and point: Vladdy. From what I've heard Illitch still takes care of him financially. Even if its only somewhat, that speaks volumes about Illitch and the class that surrounds the Wings organization. Illitch is a class act. man, where would we be without him ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 There are times when this board really gets on my nerves, the whole trade this guy because he hasn't scored in 2 games bit (Sammy, Huds, you know the drill) and then I realize that it is because we are spoiled. As wing's fans we haven't had to deal with the horrible rebuilding years, missing the playoffs, WWW or Jacobs, etc.... it is a class org from top to bottom. Players like Yzerman are not only the face of the team, but display the attitude and mentality of the whole org. It is nice to be a wings fan I will tell you that!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 Baring medical science figuring out what exactly is wrong with him and fixing it, I don't see him ever playing again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) But its like other people said.. nothing in the medical profession is 100% regardless of your condition.. I have no doubt that IF (and I suppose thats a big if) he is cleared to play again one day, he will play. Now thats not me saying he's going to be the same guy he was 2 years ago but you can see from his comments that he has the right attitude and will be willing to work hard to get back to his old form. And for all the people who are saying its just hockey, he has a family and kid, blah blah.. I'm sure he's thought about that long and hard for the past 2 years and is still making this comments so I think I'll just let Jiri worry about his family.. There is a difference between being worried that if you walk out your door you can get hit by a car, and nearly dying on the ice. The 100% argument is not as valid in this case because, yes as I just said life is not 100% and you could die watching Family Guy Sunday night. However with Fisch he has a heart condition that nearly killed him 2 years ago, the man was dead on the bench and then brought back to life. There are countless articles about how if the wing's medical staff wasn't sitting where they were and if the defibrillator was as close as it was he would have died. That is slightly different than saying well Dats could get hit awkward and things could happen to him too. The outside chance something could happen is different than, you almost died doing this once because your body couldn't handle. And oh by the way we have no idea why it happened, what caused it, or if it will happen again. Edited November 2, 2007 by Opie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsZR2 1 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 If he comes back great, if he lives another 60 years as a family man even better. I miss him on the ice but would much rather he stay healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 But its like other people said.. nothing in the medical profession is 100% regardless of your condition.. I have no doubt that IF (and I suppose thats a big if) he is cleared to play again one day, he will play. Now thats not me saying he's going to be the same guy he was 2 years ago but you can see from his comments that he has the right attitude and will be willing to work hard to get back to his old form. And for all the people who are saying its just hockey, he has a family and kid, blah blah.. I'm sure he's thought about that long and hard for the past 2 years and is still making this comments so I think I'll just let Jiri worry about his family.. I totally disagree with you. Saying that nothing in the medical profession is 100% regardless of your condition is very different than a situation like Jiri's. The fact that he has a major heart condition and nearly died on the ice two years ago makes his situation beyond unique in comparison to 99% of the NHL. Even if doctors do clear him to play, given the fact that the medical profession can't say with 100% certainty that playing NHL hockey won't in fact trigger another incident, its puts him on a totally different playing field than 99% of the league. The intensity and the heart pressure that comes with playing in the NHL is well beyond training off the ice. He won't experience the highs and lows that your heart rate goes through during an NHL game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 Hey NFM that looked like what I just typed!!! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted November 2, 2007 Hey NFM that looked like what I just typed!!! LOL Yeah, my bad. I actually hit reply to his comment and then walked away from my computer for like 15 minutes. When I got back, I typed my thoughts only to read yours after mine posted. Looks like you and I are on the same page on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
