lfd250 1 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 Ok, we all know the hooking rule sucks. But my biggest thing about rules right now is not being able to change after an icing and they go to TV timeout. You might as well let them change players. Please Mr asswipe sorry Bettmen look into this. Either let them change or don't go to the TV timeout. Thanks for letting me rant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 Ok, we all know the hooking rule sucks. But my biggest thing about rules right now is not being able to change after an icing and they go to TV timeout. You might as well let them change players. Please Mr asswipe sorry Bettmen look into this. Either let them change or don't go to the TV timeout. Thanks for letting me rant. Is this the only thing you have to worry about, seriously? Firstly, I like that you can't change after icing the puck, secondly, you can't really control when TV timeouts happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 I have to admit the commercial timeout really pisses me off also, because it kills the whole point of the no-change icing, but there really isn't too much that can be done. At the very least its affective in overtime. Another rule that I don't like is the trapezoid "play zone" for goalies. I really don't think that benefits the game at all. If anything it slows it down when the puck is cleared into that area on a power play, and unnecessary and ridiculous penalties to suffer from are annoying to watch, especially with Hasek needing to leave the crease as much as he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 Rule change: Instead of the stupid trapezoid...goaltenders can play the puck anywhere on the ice, except in the goal crease! Now THAT would create some scoring!! Poor Toronto...McCabe would be an unstoppable offensive machine.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omnipotent_hudler 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 I'd like the rule that gives a penalty to a player who shoots the puck out of his defensive zone into the crowd changed... Instead of a penalty, it should be like icing is now; a face off in the defensive zone with the defending team unable to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) I'd like the rule that gives a penalty to a player who shoots the puck out of his defensive zone into the crowd changed... Instead of a penalty, it should be like icing is now; a face off in the defensive zone with the defending team unable to change. That rule doesn't bother me as much as it used to, because players have adapted to it. It's become so much more few and far between. That being said, I can definitely see the argument for your proposed rule. Edited November 15, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) I don't know if anyone's said it yet because I didn't read the whole thread (okay ANY of the thread)...but I hate the trapezoid goalie rule thing..GRR. Edited November 15, 2007 by Offsides Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey&beer 16 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 Yes, lose the trapezoid rule. I can understand that the goaler should be off limits while trying to make a save or being in the crease at all. But there is no reason he shouldn't be fair game if he's out of the crease playing the puck. Especially since he's usually trying to stay in the path of the opposing forward. That has always gotten on my nerves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 Yes, lose the trapezoid rule. I can understand that the goaler should be off limits while trying to make a save or being in the crease at all. But there is no reason he shouldn't be fair game if he's out of the crease playing the puck. Especially since he's usually trying to stay in the path of the opposing forward. That has always gotten on my nerves. I don't have a problem with the trapezoid rule. A guy should be able to get the puck in deep and beat the defenders to the puck to create scoring chances without having the goalie simply come out and eliminate those chances. The trapezoid rule only limits the handling of the puck in small areas, it isn't a big deal. In terms of being fair game, I do have a bit of a problem with that. With all the gear on a goalie, they could tend to fall awkwardly if they get hit and this could create injuries. A hit to a regular skater may result in the player not even falling down, but the same hit to a goalie could potentially result in a serious injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey&beer 16 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 I don't have a problem with the trapezoid rule. A guy should be able to get the puck in deep and beat the defenders to the puck to create scoring chances without having the goalie simply come out and eliminate those chances. The trapezoid rule only limits the handling of the puck in small areas, it isn't a big deal. In terms of being fair game, I do have a bit of a problem with that. With all the gear on a goalie, they could tend to fall awkwardly if they get hit and this could create injuries. A hit to a regular skater may result in the player not even falling down, but the same hit to a goalie could potentially result in a serious injury. I guess I'm looking at things in terms of interference. If a skater were to handle the puck and then not allow the opposing skater to then chase the puck... that's interference. But a goalie can do just about anything to prevent the skater from getting by (although hooking may be called). Yes a goalie can very easily fall and injure himself if he is not aware the hit is coming. But he would know the forward is coming at him and then would maybe not leisurely (sp?) skate out to trap the puck behind the net and impede the forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILSWATERBOY 10 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 I think the hooking rule just needs to be called only when it is a direct intent to impead the forward progress to the puck or a when it interfears with a scoring chance. The rule I realy dont like is the instagator players need to be held accountable for there actions on the ice Bettman BLWS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lfd250 1 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 For those of you who may not know the TV timeouts are done as close to the 15, 10 and 5 min mark. And they DO control them. because if you watch, there's never a TV timeout during a power play at that time. They will go to a timeout right before the start of the penalty but never during. That's what makes me angry and why I think it could be changed. The trapeziod doesn't bother me, Hasek coming out of the net at all bothers me. The delay of game over the glass I like just because if the guys are pressing, this is a lame way to get out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 I think the hooking rule just needs to be called only when it is a direct intent to impead the forward progress to the puck or a when it interfears with a scoring chance. The rule I realy dont like is the instagator players need to be held accountable for there actions on the ice Bettman BLWS Ummm, when does a hooking play ever happen when you are not trying to impede the progress of the opposing player? If this does happen, why are you doing it? I hate all the calls, but I don't hate the rule. If players simply stopped using their sticks to slow guys down, there would be no calls and the game would be better. I'm sorry, there is no excuse for you to lift your stick off the ice and use it to try and slow someone down (basically using it as an extention of your body). If you are not as fast or as skilled as the opposing player and you can't beat him to the puck or can't stop him from getting around you without using your stick.....well, too bad for you, the guy should be allowed to skate by you or you'll get called for a penalty. Otherwise, you are allowing less skilled guys to hamper the abilities of highly skilled players. I have to think that the calls will slowly begin to lessen as players adapt. A lot of players continue to hook and hold simply out of habit and this will take time to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 I'd like the rule that gives a penalty to a player who shoots the puck out of his defensive zone into the crowd changed... Instead of a penalty, it should be like icing is now; a face off in the defensive zone with the defending team unable to change. Sounds good to me. I hate the trapezoid goalie rule thing..GRR. Ditto. Let them play the puck, for better or worse. Oh and the instigator penalty sucks. Needs the heave ho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 not really a rule change... but something that I agree with... turn down the volume We have our own terminologies, many of which have come under assault in recent years. The traditional hockey term of dressing rooms has been replaced by the unoriginal term locker rooms. Center ice has been replaced by the neutral zone. Two-on-ones and three-on-twos have been replaced by the generic term odd-man rushes. And perhaps worst of all, the boards are starting to become known as the wall, especially in non-traditional markets. It is enough to make a hockey fan scream. However, if a hockey fan screams and nobody can hear it over the too-loud arena music, does the scream really exist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites