BlackhawksFan 4 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Hello all, I have a question for the general Detroit faithful. The Wings have won 13 Divisional Championships and 5 President's Trophies in the past 20 years. And they have three Stanley Cups to show for it. How prevalent is the ratio of three to thirteen in the minds of the fans? Does the average fan feel that the 10 (actually 12...in 97 and 98 the Wings weren't even Division Champs) other teams underachieved and "choked" during the playoffs? Or is three cups in the last 10 years good enough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 I like to think of it as winning 3 cups in 6 years, and everything else is pointless to keep track of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 you dont play a year of hockey to win the divisional championship or to win the president's trophy, you pay we win the cup. Everything elce is nice but it's the cup that really matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 How prevalent is the ratio of three to thirteen in the minds of the fans? Does the average fan feel that the 10 (actually 12...in 97 and 98 the Wings weren't even Division Champs) other teams underachieved and "choked" during the playoffs? Or is three cups in the last 10 years good enough? I'd seriously have to go down memory lane to figure out who the other 10 teams were and their seasons. Which I don't feel like. But three cups in the last 10 years: it's good enough. However, had we won in '95 and '96... why hell yes I'd like to have an Islanders dynasty streak thank you very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 i feel let down when we dont win the cup but am glad to have won 3 in ten years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) um,....during those 15 years you're talking about, we won three cups,....the devils had the same level of success, the avs had close to it, but three cups in six years is the important stat. I suppose every wings fan wants the cup every year, but deep down most of us know that's not going to happen. So most of us feel fortunate to have won the cups we did. Not to rag on you or anything but i'm pretty sure there's a few blackhawks fans that would love to have seen one cup in the span you're talking about i guess i should ask you, is there a Kansas city royals syndrome in Chi town? Edited November 19, 2007 by theman19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auxlepli 17 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 For comparison sake, Wings vs Braves, I'll say three championships in 16 years is at least three times better than one championship in 14 years. Many people say hockey is the hardest sport in which to win a championship. I agree with that. Going by percentages it's statistically harder to make the post season in baseball than other sports. However it's harder, and more physically demanding to win the Stanley Cup than to win the World Series. I also believe it's harder to win the Stanley Cup than it is to win the Super Bowl and NBA championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Since no other team has won more Stanley Cups during that time period, it means the Red Wings have been the most successful team in the NHL for the past 15 years. It's hard to complain about that (although people here do all the time). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackhawksFan 4 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 is there a Kansas city royals syndrome in Chi town? I couldn't vouch for the fan base in KC, but even during lean times (e.g. every Chicago team in the last decade, except the Sox that one year and Bears last year), there is always a rabid fan base, even if it is smaller. When the Blackhawks start winning consistently for a year or two, I can guarantee we will probably be happy and fill up the UC. I think someone said Chicago fans are a "sleeping giant", and that's probably correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) Hello all, I have a question for the general Detroit faithful. The Wings have won 13 Divisional Championships and 5 President's Trophies in the past 20 years. And they have three Stanley Cups to show for it. How prevalent is the ratio of three to thirteen in the minds of the fans? Does the average fan feel that the 10 (actually 12...in 97 and 98 the Wings weren't even Division Champs) other teams underachieved and "choked" during the playoffs? Or is three cups in the last 10 years good enough? Lots of variable here. Winning the division doesn't necessarily mean you were the best team in the league or even in your own conference statistically. In baseball, before the wildcard game was added you had to play other 2 teams, not 4. Then you factor in our historically weak division the last 10 years and winning our division doesn't really mean as much. That being the case, maybe some of those whopping point totals were skewed up because we grabbed so many "easy" points. Personally, I think winning the Stanley Cup is the hardest championship to win of all. Its more physical than baseball. Its played nearly every other day in the playoffs as opposed to weekly in the NFL playoffs. There's just so much abuse the players go thru during a Cup run that injuries play a larger factor IMO. Its just downright harder IMO. I think we've done just fine. In truth, other than the 2002 team, i've never felt that we were the best team out there. Statistically we may have been in the regular season and maybe we were more skilled than most teams we faced in the playoffs. But as the years passed, you can look at who we lost to and for the most part teams that were bigger, meaner, stronger and faster than us or relied more on hard work versus raw skill would often give us trouble. Maybe its wrong of me to say I didn't feel we were the best team. Maybe I should say I often felt we weren't the most well-rounded team or had the teams best suited for the type of constant, every other day pounding you get in the playoffs. I think 3 cups since 97 ain't shabby at all. Regardless of how many times we finished at the top. IMO, where you are seeded means almost nothing when it comes to the NHL game. Edited November 19, 2007 by GordieSid&Ted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 The Atlanta Braves Syndrom is a good Syndrom to have tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 Since no other team has won more Stanley Cups during that time period, it means the Red Wings have been the most successful team in the NHL for the past 15 years. It's hard to complain about that (although people here do all the time). Hehe. My only real complaints about the Wings are the lack of enforcers/fighting, and the fact that the Wings, at times, can be an extremely boring team. Yeah, I will also complain if they are on a prolonged losing streak, or if Hasek plays a bad game, but's that just a heat of the moment thing. I usually drop it by the next day. You will notice I complain about Ken Holland a lot also, but that's only because he seems goes soft on me when I compliment him. Every time I call him a horrible GM, he comes out and proves me wrong. So, why change up that trend? Catch my drift? The Atlanta Braves Syndrom is a good Syndrom to have tbh. That is, if you watch only the regular season and tune out the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
