rob blake

[Opie 308]

Blake has a big nose and looks French. He is not European or small so he is not allowed on our team.

I assume based off of you username you are kidding but in case you weren't

13 players on the roster are born in either Canada or USA leaving 12 more players being of European decent.

Because this team is one of the teams that uses European talent and has a lot of it in the high profile positions doesn't mean it is all European or that N. Americans are not allowed on the team.

If you were kidding around like I think you were nevermind this thread but there are people who truly believe that even though if you look at this offseason the wings added

Ralf (USA)

Drake (CAN)

Downey (Can)

[imisssergei 0]

he stated he would waive his no trade , and if he wants to win he'd come to detroit , only a moron or someone who hates the wings for a personal reason wouldnt come ........ negotiations START with a prospect and pick ? LOL

what the hell do you think it would take a 38 yr old defencemen whos on his last year of a contract that pays him 6 million a year and whos been having problems on a team thats full of problems ??

derek meech

jiri hudler

1st rd pick

for rob blake ?

LOLLLL

god i hope thats not what your thinking

He did say he would waive his NTC. But why do you just assume that means he would come to Detroit? Or that if he didn't want to come to Detroit, he is a moron? There is a team, a few miles away that he would fit into VERY nicely, the Ducks.

You contradict yourself. On one hand you say Blake's problems are a result of playing on a poor team, and he still has value. But on the other hand you don't think he is going to command much because he isn't playing well. It doesn't work like that my friend. Either he has value, or he doesn't.

The biggest reason that it will take more than a pick and a prospect is that there will be a few teams trying to get Blake.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

He did say he would waive his NTC. But why do you just assume that means he would come to Detroit? Or that if he didn't want to come to Detroit, he is a moron? There is a team, a few miles away that he would fit into VERY nicely, the Ducks.

You contradict yourself. On one hand you say Blake's problems are a result of playing on a poor team, and he still has value. But on the other hand you don't think he is going to command much because he isn't playing well. It doesn't work like that my friend. Either he has value, or he doesn't.

The biggest reason that it will take more than a pick and a prospect is that there will be a few teams trying to get Blake.

I hope you arent serious. There is no WAY in hell that the Kings do ANYTHING to make the Ducks better. They arent just some inter-divisional rival - they compete for fans and media attention. When it comes to the Kings and Ducks, trading between the two meas a lot more than player movement. It also means business movement.

Theres a reason analysts have already insinuated that LA would WANT to trade with a team like Dallas or Detroit, as they feel these teams have a good chance to knock Anaheim off its pedestal, which can perhaps balance out the playing field a bit in terms of media and fan attention when it comes to these two cross-town rivals.

[imisssergei 0]

I hope you arent serious. There is no WAY in hell that the Kings do ANYTHING to make the Ducks better. They arent just some inter-divisional rival - they compete for fans and media attention. When it comes to the Kings and Ducks, trading between the two meas a lot more than player movement. It also means business movement.

Theres a reason analysts have already insinuated that LA would WANT to trade with a team like Dallas or Detroit, as they feel these teams have a good chance to knock Anaheim off its pedestal, which can perhaps balance out the playing field a bit in terms of media and fan attention when it comes to these two cross-town rivals.

I understand that they are rivals. However, you have to remember that Blake has a NTC, so there are only a few teams he would goto, and that the Ducks have a lot of what it would take to get Blake. There is no doubt that the Kings will look elesewhere first, but they would be foolish not to listen to and consider any offer made by the Ducks.

Remeber, it's the NHL salary cap era, anything can happen.

[Opie 308]

Plus the Ducks need to get rid off defenseman and get offense not add to already the deepest Blue line in the NHL.

Edit: get rid off is a little strong of a word, either way they don't want to add to the Blueline

Edited January 3, 2008 by Opie

[Guest wingswillwincup]

I hope you arent serious. There is no WAY in hell that the Kings do ANYTHING to make the Ducks better. They arent just some inter-divisional rival - they compete for fans and media attention. When it comes to the Kings and Ducks, trading between the two meas a lot more than player movement. It also means business movement.

Theres a reason analysts have already insinuated that LA would WANT to trade with a team like Dallas or Detroit, as they feel these teams have a good chance to knock Anaheim off its pedestal, which can perhaps balance out the playing field a bit in terms of media and fan attention when it comes to these two cross-town rivals.

ya i was thinking the exact same thing , the kings proposition didnt make any sense at all especially since they had to clear cap room just to get neidermayer back in , they dont have the cap space to get a rob blake and i think their team in the back is set lol ....... schneider pronger neidermayer beachemin o'donnell ...... ducks are done

why wouldnt blake wanna waive his no trade to come to a team like detroit ?? only reason would be if he hates the team with a passion for some reason ......... and to the other guy i still think a prospect and pick would be enough , what the hell do you expect to give up for a guy whos 38 and making 6 million and not producing as he was although if he was on a good time he still might ???

bertuzzi was given what he was given cause he was coming off an injury and didnt know what to expect ...... you seriously think a team is gonna give more then a prospect and a pick for a 38 yr old 6 million dollar ufa ?

jiri hudler

derek meech

3rd pick ??

sure lol

[irishtemper14+25 11]

no way i give up hudler for anything, him and flip are untouchable

[Guest wingswillwincup]

no way i give up hudler for anything, him and flip are untouchable

i wouldnt either but he seems to think we'll have to give up alot of a 38 yr old whos a ufa making 6 million

i personally think meech or quincey and a 2nd round pick would be enough , i may be wrong but time will tell , i cant see a team giving up a top rated prospect , a high pick and another player

[Guest wingswillwincup]

Plus the Ducks need to get rid off defenseman and get offense not add to already the deepest Blue line in the NHL.

Edit: get rid off is a little strong of a word, either way they don't want to add to the Blueline

i dont think theyll get rid of one of them , their strong point will just be from the back

neidermayer

pronger

schneider

beauchemin

o'donnell

giguere

i hate those bastards but thats pretty impressive ....... and they do still have perry getzlaf kunitz pahlsson r neidermayer ryan bertuzzi and selanne if he comes back

im sure theyll make a trade for a forward or bring back selanne but i dont think theres anyway they trade one of their defensemen

[imisssergei 0]

ya i was thinking the exact same thing , the kings proposition didnt make any sense at all especially since they had to clear cap room just to get neidermayer back in , they dont have the cap space to get a rob blake and i think their team in the back is set lol ....... schneider pronger neidermayer beachemin o'donnell ...... ducks are done

why wouldnt blake wanna waive his no trade to come to a team like detroit ?? only reason would be if he hates the team with a passion for some reason ......... and to the other guy i still think a prospect and pick would be enough , what the hell do you expect to give up for a guy whos 38 and making 6 million and not producing as he was although if he was on a good time he still might ???

bertuzzi was given what he was given cause he was coming off an injury and didnt know what to expect ...... you seriously think a team is gonna give more then a prospect and a pick for a 38 yr old 6 million dollar ufa ?

jiri hudler

derek meech

3rd pick ??

sure lol

You are wrong about the Ducks cap space. They had to move someone who was under contract next season to fulfill the tagging rule. They actually have about $1.65 in cap space now. If they were to send say, Beauchemin over to the Kings for Blake, that would clear another $1.65 in cap space. Blake would cost the Ducks about $1.17. So even if it were just picks and prospects going over, the deal could be done. My point is, it could be done.

Have you ever though that maybe, just maybe, Blake isn't interested in moving that far away from his family? There is no doubt that Blake won't approve a trade to a team that isn't in serious contention for the Cup. There are only a few teams that would make legit sense, Ducks, Wings, Sens, Devils, Stars and possibly the Sharks. All of those teams have the necessary cap space.

Don't think for one second that if he is available, other teams won't make a pitch for Blake. You make it sound like it's the Wings or bust. Take off the homer lenses. There are other teams out there who have a good shot at the Cup this year.

Again, you contradict yourself. You can't say that Blake is just a product of his team and he still can be an impact player on one hand, and on the other say he has had a few bad years, is old, and an UFA so he won't command much on the trade market. It doesn't work that way. If the bad seasons he has had in recent years are a product of the teams he has been on, he will command a lot on the market. Otherwise, he won't command much, but he won't draw much attention either.

So which is it? Will Blake command attention and more than a prospect and pick package? Or is he and old, washed up, impending UFA who won't draw many looks?

[eva unit zero 271]

He did say he would waive his NTC. But why do you just assume that means he would come to Detroit? Or that if he didn't want to come to Detroit, he is a moron? There is a team, a few miles away that he would fit into VERY nicely, the Ducks.

Blake would be the fifth-best offensive defenseman on the Ducks, and the sixth best defensive defenseman. The price the Kings would charge to get him would also be outrageous. While Burke has made many stupid decisions based on man-love for players, I don't know that he has enough man-love for Blake to gut his team by trading for him.

[Grittzkey 1]

Screw Blake.

Oprik FTW.

[Guest wingswillwincup]

You are wrong about the Ducks cap space. They had to move someone who was under contract next season to fulfill the tagging rule. They actually have about $1.65 in cap space now. If they were to send say, Beauchemin over to the Kings for Blake, that would clear another $1.65 in cap space. Blake would cost the Ducks about $1.17. So even if it were just picks and prospects going over, the deal could be done. My point is, it could be done.

Have you ever though that maybe, just maybe, Blake isn't interested in moving that far away from his family? There is no doubt that Blake won't approve a trade to a team that isn't in serious contention for the Cup. There are only a few teams that would make legit sense, Ducks, Wings, Sens, Devils, Stars and possibly the Sharks. All of those teams have the necessary cap space.

Don't think for one second that if he is available, other teams won't make a pitch for Blake. You make it sound like it's the Wings or bust. Take off the homer lenses. There are other teams out there who have a good shot at the Cup this year.

Again, you contradict yourself. You can't say that Blake is just a product of his team and he still can be an impact player on one hand, and on the other say he has had a few bad years, is old, and an UFA so he won't command much on the trade market. It doesn't work that way. If the bad seasons he has had in recent years are a product of the teams he has been on, he will command a lot on the market. Otherwise, he won't command much, but he won't draw much attention either.

So which is it? Will Blake command attention and more than a prospect and pick package? Or is he and old, washed up, impending UFA who won't draw many looks?

do you actually think the ducks awould trade beauchemin for a 38 yr old defencemen ?? Amd if they could do the trade as you say do you honestly think they would ??? they got neidermayer pronger schneider beauchemin who can log 20-25 minutes a night , and they also go o'donnell ....ducks priority now is to find goalscoring

And no kidding i know that blake has a not trade claus and can determind where he'd wanna go but if the ducks dont even offer a deal ( which they wont ) then him stayin in california isnt an option unless the sharks trade for him ..... the guy is 38 yrs old though i dont think thats a big deal to him he wants to win the cup , and hed be going away for a few months its not the end of the world , hes a ufa at seasons end

There are teams out there who have a shot at winning the cup but looking at the way were playing even though nothing is ever guaranteed if detroit was one of the possible destinations for him he'd be an idiot to decline it

Have you ever though that maybe, just maybe, Blake isn't interested in moving that far away from his family? There is no doubt that Blake won't approve a trade to a team that isn't in serious contention for the Cup. There are only a few teams that would make legit sense, Ducks, Wings, Sens, Devils, Stars and possibly the Sharks. All of those teams have the necessary cap space.

Don't think for one second that if he is available, other teams won't make a pitch for Blake. You make it sound like it's the Wings or bust. Take off the homer lenses. There are other teams out there who have a good shot at the Cup this year.

and again rob blake being a 38 yr old defencemen who has been struggling , even on a bad team has to effect his trade value how can it now ?? i still think even if a change of scenery can do wonders if a player is struggling his value is down , and add to that , that hes got a real high salary and hes a ufa at seasons end then yes you cant ask the world for him .......example ...... michael ryder has had 2-3 30 goal seasons and hes been awful this year , if he changed team it would help him but you dont think thats effected his trade value the way hes played this year ??

rob blake is an old ufa with a HIGH salary and whos been struggling which AFFECTS his trade VALIE , so it will not cost more then a 1st -2nd round pick and a prospect ......... im really curious , please make up a trade of who you think we would have to give up to get him , again im really curious

[imisssergei 0]

do you actually think the ducks awould trade beauchemin for a 38 yr old defencemen ?? Amd if they could do the trade as you say do you honestly think they would ??? they got neidermayer pronger schneider beauchemin who can log 20-25 minutes a night , and they also go o'donnell ....ducks priority now is to find goalscoring

And no kidding i know that blake has a not trade claus and can determind where he'd wanna go but if the ducks dont even offer a deal ( which they wont ) then him stayin in california isnt an option unless the sharks trade for him ..... the guy is 38 yrs old though i dont think thats a big deal to him he wants to win the cup , and hed be going away for a few months its not the end of the world , hes a ufa at seasons end

There are teams out there who have a shot at winning the cup but looking at the way were playing even though nothing is ever guaranteed if detroit was one of the possible destinations for him he'd be an idiot to decline it

Have you ever though that maybe, just maybe, Blake isn't interested in moving that far away from his family? There is no doubt that Blake won't approve a trade to a team that isn't in serious contention for the Cup. There are only a few teams that would make legit sense, Ducks, Wings, Sens, Devils, Stars and possibly the Sharks. All of those teams have the necessary cap space.

Don't think for one second that if he is available, other teams won't make a pitch for Blake. You make it sound like it's the Wings or bust. Take off the homer lenses. There are other teams out there who have a good shot at the Cup this year.

and again rob blake being a 38 yr old defencemen who has been struggling , even on a bad team has to effect his trade value how can it now ?? i still think even if a change of scenery can do wonders if a player is struggling his value is down , and add to that , that hes got a real high salary and hes a ufa at seasons end then yes you cant ask the world for him .......example ...... michael ryder has had 2-3 30 goal seasons and hes been awful this year , if he changed team it would help him but you dont think thats effected his trade value the way hes played this year ??

rob blake is an old ufa with a HIGH salary and whos been struggling which AFFECTS his trade VALIE , so it will not cost more then a 1st -2nd round pick and a prospect ......... im really curious , please make up a trade of who you think we would have to give up to get him , again im really curious

Again, if you had read the post, I said my point was a deal could be done. I wasn't saying the Ducks would, or were even thinking about moving Beauchemin. I was merely giving you an example of a trade that would allow Blake to fit in under the cap while still leaving room to make other acquisitions. As for the Ducks adding offense, look no further than Selanne. He is skating with the Ducks. There are a lot of rumors that he could be back by the end of January. Don't think for one second that if Blake wants to be a part of the Ducks, that a trade couldn't be worked out.

I'm not even going to bother to try to discuss this any further with you. All you do is keep regurgitating homerized thoughts, and contradictory thoughts.

My advice to you is this, realize that the Wings aren't the be all, end all NHL franchise, and get yourself some software that has a spell check.