Hossa Sweepstakes down to four teams?

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When I woke up this morning I was ready for some news. oh well it was fun while it lasted.

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For those still interested, it appears he didn't delete it. The facebook is back up...

Also, his relationship status is changed to single. lol

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Sharks GM Doug Wilson has upped the ante by offering C Patrick Marleau as part of a trade for Thrashers F Marian Hossa, according to the Toronto Sun.

That would seem to match the requirement stated by Thrashers GM Don Waddell, who has said he wants immediate help if he trades Hossa.

"You make lots of tough decisions," Waddell told the Toronto Sun. "I still remain with three options: The first one is closing in on us with the deadline and that is signing him. The second is trading him and the third is keeping him to try to win the Southeast Division, which is very important to us. We're two points out of a playoff spot. That's big for us."

"We're talking about Marian Hossa and some teams feel like they can make a deal that will put them over the edge.

"We won't make a deal for a first-round pick or a second-pick, that doesn't make any sense for us. We have to make a deal that will allow us to put pieces in our lineup right away."

Red Wings GM Ken Holland told the Detroit Free Press he's reluctant to give up prospects.

"I've talked to some people, some teams, but it's like a poker game, with everyone playing one team against another," Holland told the Free

Press.

"Most teams are looking for our top prospects. I'm not saying I'm not going to do it, but that won't be for just a mid-level player. We have to balance short-term and long-term interests."

Hossa told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution last week the chances of him re-signing before the trade deadline are "very slim."

And that increases the likelihood that Hossa, due to be an unrestricted free agent this summer, will be moved before Feb. 26.

Waddell has received calls from at least 10 teams, including the Stars, Canadiens, Bruins, Senators, Rangers, Ducks, Red Wings and Sharks, according to the Sun.

As Per ESPN Insider, dated Feb 20th.

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For those still interested, it appears he didn't delete it. The facebook is back up...

Also, his relationship status is changed to single. lol

Maaaaybe thats because he decided that he and his lady friend just couldn't hold together a long term relationship, him living in ATL and all....

I'm grasping, aren't I.

(I still don't think its over. There is still the possibility that a deal has been reached in principle and Holly and Hoss are negotiating right now, and Flip is obviously still with the team as the deal could still fall through....I'm holding on to this for as long as I possibly can!)

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I can confirm the 48 hour period to sign Hossa to a new contract before the trade is made. It's all over the media here in Atlanta. Well as much as anything hockey related is all over the media down here.

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Red Wings GM Ken Holland told the Detroit Free Press he's reluctant to give up prospects.

"I've talked to some people, some teams, but it's like a poker game, with everyone playing one team against another," Holland told the Free

Press.

"Most teams are looking for our top prospects. I'm not saying I'm not going to do it, but that won't be for just a mid-level player. We have to balance short-term and long-term interests."

If you don't do it Kenny then you're an idiot and should be fired, sorry.

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If you don't do it Kenny then you're an idiot and should be fired, sorry.

True. But from the quote, it sounds like Kenny is saying that if he could land a Hossa, who is clearly beyond a mid-level player, than he would. There are of course other stipulations that might prevent this deal from going through.

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Maaaaybe thats because he decided that he and his lady friend just couldn't hold together a long term relationship, him living in ATL and all....

I'm grasping, aren't I.

(I still don't think its over. There is still the possibility that a deal has been reached in principle and Holly and Hoss are negotiating right now, and Flip is obviously still with the team as the deal could still fall through....I'm holding on to this for as long as I possibly can!)

I'm just saying, if the facebook thing is back up with some changes made (like the whole traded to ATL thing) than someone must really, really like to act like they're Flip. Which is very, very strange, but then again it is a strange world we live in.

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I'm just saying, if the facebook thing is back up with some changes made (like the whole traded to ATL thing) than someone must really, really like to act like they're Flip. Which is very, very strange, but then again it is a strange world we live in.

QFT

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Hossa is better and more valuable than Flip could ever hope to be -- especially to the Wings, who, given their track record, could find another player in Flip's mold much more easily than they could find one in Hossa's.

At best, Flip will be a solid second-line playmaker. A poor man's Datsyuk.

At best, Hossa will give us four or five 40-goal seasons and solid two-way play. No one in Detroit's system outside of Hank Zetterberg can offer that.

This is where you're simply not taking the salary cap into consideration enough.

If there was no salary cap, then right on. But there is, and you simply can't pay 3 players who will be of the same value an average of $7mil a season. This is where you need to spend your available money to build a team - not simply give out huge paychecks to star players.

For this team, with Datsyuk and Zetterberg already on the roster, would you rather have:

one Marian Hossa

or

one Valterri Filppula + one Dan Cleary + one 3rd line energy forward?

With Datsyuk and Zetterberg already here, you'd be crazy not to take Filppula, Cleary, plus another player. Each of those players combined would bring more team value than one Marian Hossa.

Not only would those 3 players combined surpass Hossa's offensive production, but they'd do it in a way that allows for them to play on seperate lines - thus adding that thing called depth. Cleary adds an element of grit and determination that cannot even be measured. And Filppula's upside only makes him of more value then he is at this moment in time.

Datsyuk and Zetterberg are two of the premere 2-way forwards in the NHL. Getting a 3rd for the same price isn't necessary.

Marian Hossa doesn't make sense long term - not for the kind of money he'd be expecting.

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I'm just saying, if the facebook thing is back up with some changes made (like the whole traded to ATL thing) than someone must really, really like to act like they're Flip. Which is very, very strange, but then again it is a strange world we live in.

Or its someone that's getting a kick out of all the attention his/her fake Facebook account is creating on LGW and other media outlets.

[bringback91 2]

Or its someone that's getting a kick out of all the attention his/her fake Facebook account is creating on LGW and other media outlets.

True and very well could be the case, but still, all that time and effort into building this fake Flip (of all pro atheltes) website thing (not really sure what facebook is, assume it's another myspace?) on the odd chance someone will bite and run with a trade rumor from it....

If that's the case God bless whoever gets invoulved in a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with this guy/girl. I'm no Dr. Phil but that kinda behaviour seems like a one way ticket to restraining order land.

Oh, but don't worry, Eklund had his very own "facebook" detective look it over and they said it was fake. - he really did say that on his site.

Edited February 20, 2008 by bringback91

[dallas27 7]

Marian Hossa doesn't make sense long term - not for the kind of money he'd be expecting.

I know, having franchise players long-term makes zero sense.

I'm sorry but a lot of people are being homers here about Flip. This is Marian freaking Hossa we are talking about.

We don't even know if Cleary is going to be here but even if he is he said he is willing to take a discount for the best of the team.

Someone crunched numbers for us in this thread, forgot which page, but it is doable.

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True and very well could be the case, but still, all that time and effort into building this fake Flip (of all pro atheltes) website thing (not really sure what facebook is, assume it's another myspace?) on the odd chance someone will bite and run with a trade rumor from it....

If that's the case God bless whoever gets invoulved in a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with this guy/girl. I'm no Dr. Phil but that kinda behaviour seems like a one way ticket to restraining order land.

Oh, but don't worry, Eklund had his very own "facebook" detective look it over and they said it was fake. - he really did say that on his site.

Running into it isn't that "odd" of a chance though. People know there are devoted fans of hockey, no different than that off any other sport. To some people, if they find something that would get people to bite (and have enough free time on their hands) they'll do it.

Like you said though, it's really sad that someone took the time to do all that. Get a girlfriend/boyfriend or atleast something else productive to do.

Edit: (Kelsey) Grammar

Edited February 20, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

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I talked with Filppula after practice. That's not his facebook account.

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For what it's worth I was at the Thrashers practice this morning and Hossa was nowhere to be found. Some are saying the facebook site was real and others are not. I think they may be some validity to it.

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The way I see it, there should be one of two types of news stories coming out in the next 24 hours.

1. Talks of possible trades w/ atl

2. public talks of legal actions against impersonation (especially seeing that this facebook account is linked to family members, and is older than his fulltime status with the wings). At the VERY least, this is being run by someone who has been personal friends for several years.

That said, there is the third possibility it was filp toying around and didn't know it would blow up, or maybe he was all pissed off last night at his (now showing as ex) girlfriend. Whatever.

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I know, having franchise players long-term makes zero sense.

I'm sorry but a lot of people are being homers here about Flip. This is Marian freaking Hossa we are talking about.

We don't even know if Cleary is going to be here but even if he is he said he is willing to take a discount for the best of the team.

Someone crunched numbers for us in this thread, forgot which page, but it is doable.

Simply put, that is the mindset of a fan.

That is why Filppula to Atlanta is nothing more than an internet rumor.

Kenny Holland doesn't have the mindset of a fan and thus you will see no deal involving Filppula.

Once again, with Datsyuk and Zetterberg already on the roster, $7mil a year could add up to much more value as different pieces than in one player - and Kenny Holland knows that. He doesn't think like a fan.

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Marian Hossa doesn't make sense long term - not for the kind of money he'd be expecting.

Hossa is an elite offensive threat heading into his prime years, one who is practically custom-made for our biggest hole on offense: that of a big-bodied big-time scoring winger.

Hudler and Flip both have potential. The latter has tons of it and will undoubtedly blossom into a tremendous player. But Hossa is the kind of guy you build a team -- no, a franchise around. He's a big deal, and for good reason. Hudler is not. Flip is not. Cleary is not. Moronic is the GM who passes on Hossa in favor of the likes of Flip and Hudler.

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Furthermore, it's perfectly do-able $-wise.

[dallas27 7]

Simply put, that is the mindset of a fan.

That is why Filppula to Atlanta is nothing more than an internet rumor.

Kenny Holland doesn't have the mindset of a fan and thus you will see no deal involving Filppula.

Once again, with Datsyuk and Zetterberg already on the roster, $7mil a year could add up to much more value as different pieces than in one player - and Kenny Holland knows that. He doesn't think like a fan.

Ok bud. I'm sorry but your an idiot if you want Flip over Hossa. Flip will be nowhere near the player Hossa is. And as I said, and a bunch of other people, money wise it IS doable.

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The way I see it, there should be one of two types of news stories coming out in the next 24 hours.

1. Talks of possible trades w/ atl

2. public talks of legal actions against impersonation (especially seeing that this facebook account is linked to family members, and is older than his fulltime status with the wings). At the VERY least, this is being run by someone who has been personal friends for several years.

That said, there is the third possibility it was filp toying around and didn't know it would blow up, or maybe he was all pissed off last night at his (now showing as ex) girlfriend. Whatever.

That will NEVER happen.

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My 2 cents... I think Hossa would be just a rental. Giving up Flip/Huds/top prospects for a rental player is never worth it IMO. Unless Hossa wants to sign a contract here... But I think he will be demanding way more than what we could afford. Or maybe we can afford it, but then we will have 0 dollars left over to fill out the roster.

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HOSSA WOULD NOT BE A RENTAL!

I REPEAT: HOSSA WOULD NOT BE A RENTAL!

ONE MORE TIME, WITH FEELING: HOSSA WOULD NOT BE A RENTAL!

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OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports the following:

- The Canadiens, Sharks, Bruins and Senators are interested in Marian Hossa. Garrioch claims the Sharks could offer up either Patrick Marleau or Jonathan Cheechoo along with a prospect or pick and there's talk of the Bruins offering Glen Murray in a package deal.

SPECTOR'S NOTE: No rumors yet as to what the Habs and Sens might offer. Considering the drop-off in production of Marleau, Cheechoo and Murray plus their expensive contracts they might not be enough to entice Don Waddell to part with Hossa.

Don't take everything you read from Ottawa as fact either, they are almost as bad as Toronto with rumors. Of course nobody touches Easy E E5 !