Pronger at it again

[wingslogo19 281]

It will be one game .. Which IMO should be way more than that

[Deke 0]

Completely agreed, and I stated that multiple times towardst the beginning of the thread. Someone already made this mistake, but people need to read someone's entire post instread of being so quick to hit "reply" and start typing.

Thanks to therock48880 for clearing up things to Deke before I noticed the post.

Yup, it can be hard to keep up with 13 pages of Pronger bashing though. As much as I like to.

[Deke 0]

Crazy forum errors, duplicate posts, mods please delete.

Edited March 14, 2008 by Deke

[Deke 0]

Completely agreed, and I stated that multiple times towardst the beginning of the thread. Someone already made this mistake, but people need to read someone's entire post instread of being so quick to hit "reply" and start typing.

Thanks to therock48880 for clearing up things to Deke before I noticed the post.

Yup, it can be hard to keep up with 13 pages of Pronger bashing though. As much as I like to.

[Deke 0]

I thought the NHL was trying to stop players from hurting others. I guess it's just all hog wash.

Apparently they are just trying to stop the bad disliked players from hurting the good ones.

For whatever reason, pronger is liked by some "fans" and therefore the NHL won't come down on him. It's crap and it really hurts the integrity of the sport.

Edited March 14, 2008 by Deke

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Apparently they are just trying to stop the bad disliked players from hurting the good ones.

For whatever reason, pronger is liked by some "fans" and therefore the NHL won't come down on him. It's crap and it really hurts the integrity of the sport.

I don't think its that, as pretty much fans of the remaining 29 NHL teams all dislike Pronger. I think this is plain and simple star treatment. Pronger is one of the best defensemen in the game and the league doesn't want those players out of the lineup. Therefore, he'll get a light suspension nowhere close to 30 games.

[12Newf 0]

phhh they'll probably award him the norris and then the masterton for perservering through all the bad press and the persecution.

[The_Cub 0]

All I know is after seeing the video on TSN today he should be gone for 30. That was clearly intent to do injure.

[cr00d 26]

Hope Pronger gets suspended. What an idiot.

Also, who is this newscaster? She's hot.

Jennifer Hedger

[Bannedforlife 403]

If I had just accidentally stepped on someones leg with a skate blade, I'd probably go back and make sure they were okay. If I had done it on purpose, I'd most likely skate away and pretend nothing had happened.

I think his intentions were clear.

[egroen 384]

From Kuklas Korner:

Some words from Chris Simon today in the Star Tribune:

“I don’t know what other people are thinking,” Simon said after practice Friday. “It would be nice to have things treated fairly. I don’t think in that instance it’s fair at all. I couldn’t believe the way that nothing was going to be done about it. I still can’t believe that.”

Simon got his suspension back in December when he was playing for the New York Islanders. The Pronger incident happened Wednesday.

Simon said he watched the much-seen video of that incident. He said clearly shows Pronger stomping on Kesler’s leg. “The tape is self-explanatory,” Simon said after practice Friday. “It shows what he did.”

[...]

Simon is first among active players with eight career suspensions. Pronger is second with seven.

Asked if he was frustrated by the apparent disparity, Simon said no.

“It’s more disappointing that I can get the amount of games that I get and the player never misses a shift, and other players can hurt players,” Simon said, referring to Pronger’s hit in the playoffs. “And then the same thing, if not twice, happens in the Vancouver-Anaheim game and there is not even a review. It is decided there is no suspension.”

Colin Campbell, the NHL’s senior executive vice president, did not immediately reply to an email request for comment.

Simon is not saying he didn’t deserve the suspension he got, only that he’d like to see other players treated the same way.

“The proof is there, the evidence is there,” Simon said. “Everybody sees it, but nothing gets done.”

Simon was asked if Pronger’s high-profile status might have something to do with the league’s decision. “That’s the way it seems. I think you guys can decide for yourselves. That’s all I can say.”

[edicius 3,269]

Wonder if Simon will get fined for speaking out against the almighty Burke, er, league.

Was listening to NHL Home Ice on the way home. More and more, I begin to realize that everyone on that channel are a bunch of Anaheim slappies.

"Pronger shouldn't be suspended more than a game, if at all. More than that would be grossly excessive."

And, of course, they echoed the cries of the Ducks "fans":

"It was Kesler's fault, really! He interfered with Pronger and Pronger got frustrated! What was he supposed to do? If anything, Kesler should face a suspension too!"

Okay, by that brilliant logic:

It was Steve Moore's fault.

It was Tuomo Ruutu's fault.

It was Donald Brashear's fault.

Shall I continue?

Bunch of @#$%ing tools, the whole lot of them. I give up.

[umredwing11 2]

From Kuklas Korner:

That was a really interesting interview with Simon. Seems like he is thinking the same stuff all of us.

That said, it would be semi-interesting to hear Pronger's take on this...however, he might defend himself stating that it is a "law of physics" that his foot came down on Kesler--much like it was a law of physics that he elbowed Holmer in the head last year.

Edited March 14, 2008 by umredwing11

[edicius 3,269]

That was a really interesting interview with Simon. Seems like he is thinking the same stuff all of us.

That said, it would be semi-interesting to hear Pronger's take on this...however, he might defend himself stating that it is a "law of physics" that his foot came down on Kesler--much like it was a law of physics that he elbowed Holmer in the head last year.

Well, somebody from Anaheim (and TSN) was on the air on NHL Home Ice this afternoon and said he was talking to Pronger today. He said Pronger didn't get what the big deal over everything was. Apparently "someone" texted Pronger last night and told him (regarding the "stomp"), and I quote, "It's a dead issue."

I seriously think something's up here. And it smells rotten.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Per Kuklas:

Update 11:01am PT:

Per NHL Live, it’s been announced that Chris Pronger does have a hearing this afternoon before the NHL, regarding this incident. More later.

Any word on this yet?

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

From the Ducks site:

After initially believing there would be no punishment for an incident in Wednesday night’s game with Vancouver, Chris Pronger arrived to Honda Center this morning with the news that it is being further reviewed by the NHL.

The act in question took place one minute into the second period when Pronger was tangled up behind the Ducks net with Ryan Kesler of the Canucks. Replays showed that while trying to get loose, Pronger’s skate came down on Kesler’s leg. Deciding if a suspension is necessary for Pronger’s action in the scramble is the NHL’s task at hand, and an announcement from the league will come later. No exact timetable was given by the league.

After initial video appeared to be inconclusive and ultimately not warrant action against Pronger, league officials are currently analyzing new video from outlets in Canada.

“I got a text message last night saying that there was no suspension and it was not under review,” Pronger said. “Things change, whether it was new video or whatever the reason was behind the 180. I was a little surprised.”

The Ducks’ captain said he must wait to hear what the outcome is to figure out what his next step will be.

“I don’t know what we’re going to do,” Pronger said. “We’ve obviously got to see what happens with the review process. Burkie [Ducks Executive Vice President and General Manager Brian Burke] is going to get in touch with [NHL Senior VP and Director of Hockey Operations] Colin [Campbell] and that’s how the process works. From there, he’s got to find out what we’re going to do and we’ll talk about it then.”

Fully entrenched in the stretch run toward the playoffs, which features eight of the last nine games against Pacific Division foes, the Ducks undoubtedly would prefer their captain to remain in their lineup. But if it’s revealed that Pronger must miss time, the team is prepared to deal with such a decision.

“These are the things that we have to deal with and we’ll deal with it as a team,” Ducks head coach Randy Carlyle said. “We’ll go forward. We have to accept whatever actions the league takes, if they take any, and then we’ll move on.”

Said Ducks goalie Jean-Sebastien Giguere, “He’s one of the best defensemen in this league, so it’s hard to replace him, but we have the guys to do the job. It’s out of our hands now. We just have to accept what the league is going to throw at us and move forward after that.”

[Nero 20]

Thanks for posting that, Wings_Dynasty. I certainly don't check the Ducks website often enough to have seen it.

[Creasemonkey 30]

Just Pronger's wording in that interview makes me begin to seriously consider that the conspiracy is f@#*ing REAL.

[Nero 20]

Hilarious quote on TSN's page:

I think the NHL should expand this double standard to all aspects of the game..."While the puck clearly crossed the goal line, Martin Brodeur is an All-Star goalie and therefore, the goal has been disallowed."

[12Newf 0]

yeah tsn.ca has a short video with him and he seems a little worried in it.

[Majsheppard 203]

I have nothing but hatred for Pronger, and he deserves no respect or special treatment.

I do not think anyone has any reason to disagree. The NHL should suspend him, and anything less then 20 games I think is proof of a double standard.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

More gems from AllDucks.com :

"To point at Chris Pronger and yell "Chris Simon" or to cite Pronger's past and claim that there is proof of his intentions in this incident, which is undeniably caused by Kesler and his holding of Pronger's skate, is beyond naive and is basically prejudicial." So, we're predjudice for calling for a suspension for a dirty player with an overstuffed file of suspensions?

"I declare this the Pronger stomp!" Nice. So not only do you condone it, but are making a "dance" out of a player stomping with his skate on other players.

"I hope it hurt....." Class act, pal.

"The argument that insists Chris Pronger's history is a part of this equation has already been answered by the very people who are a part of that history. Anyone who keeps ringing the history bell is the ding-dong of the issue." So, we should ignore his past actions which prove what type of player he is?

And my personal favorite - "the league should suspend Kesler for intentionally trying to trip up Pronger by gripping his leg while pronger was skating away. Chris could have landed awkwardly on the ice and injure himself." Not even worth comment.

And the best part is, they're all blaming the "biased Canadian media" for the suspension talk.

Edited March 14, 2008 by Hockeytown0001

[Duck Guy 86]

More gems from AllDucks.com :

"To point at Chris Pronger and yell "Chris Simon" or to cite Pronger's past and claim that there is proof of his intentions in this incident, which is undeniably caused by Kesler and his holding of Pronger's skate, is beyond naive and is basically prejudicial."

"I declare this the Pronger stomp!"

"I hope it hurt....."

"The argument that insists Chris Pronger's history is a part of this equation has already been answered by the very people who are a part of that history. Anyone who keeps ringing the history bell is the ding-dong of the issue."

And my personal favorite - "the league should suspend Kesler for intentionally trying to trip up Pronger by gripping his leg while pronger was skating away. Chris could have landed awkwardly on the ice and injure himself."

And the best part is, they're all blaming the "biased Canadian media" for the suspension talk.

wow got to hand it to them though for coming up with all that..

Edited March 14, 2008 by Duck Guy

[Vincanni 1]

In all objective fairness drawing exact parallels between Simon's 30 game suspension and what Pronger deserves with this is a tad silly.

First off Simon's 30 games was a bit severe and was mostly imposed due to the memory of the Hellwig incident. Secondly Simon tripped-up and stepped on Ruutu with very little to no provocation aside from Jarrko being a known agitator, while Pronger's feet were somewhat tied up with Kesler's.

However, an aggravating factor against Pronger could be that he stomped rather than merely stepped on the calf as Simon did, though this factor could further be mitigated considering Pronger's skate blade made contact with a more protected, less vulnerable spot.

With all of this noted I think calling for a 30 game suspension on Pronger's behalf is far too dramatic, but saying something more reminiscent of 10 to 20 seems more reasonable. Of course how Colin Campbell can rationally justify no punishment at all is a mystery to me, it's inexcusable and an absolute embarrassment to the league.

Edited March 15, 2008 by Vincanni

[Rivalred 630]

What a bum.... Really.... He should be suspended.....