Fedorov is self-centred; more conclusive proof

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

From the Freep

Lets hope we meet the Caps in the finals so we can boo him again, eh?

Oh goodie. Another goddamned Fedorov thread.

Are we going to have to hear every single thing he does for eternity? Are you going to post when he helps an old lady cross the street or when he tips a little extra to the valet?

Somebody yank this thread already. What a waste of time.

[OsGOD 3]

The free press is actually the one to bring it up... its not like we were scoping out caps sites for random info... Detroit Freep made a nice article about it. funny how all the detroit media has been doing lately is speaking Highly of the man everyone else hates

[Sergeiwasmyfav 0]

Oh goodie. Another goddamned Fedorov thread.

Are we going to have to hear every single thing he does for eternity? Are you going to post when he helps an old lady cross the street or when he tips a little extra to the valet?

Somebody yank this thread already. What a waste of time.

Just because you are not interested in something, doesn't mean that others are not. I enjoyed the post, and went to the Freep site to read the whole article. There are a lot of threads on here that I am not interested in, so I don't even click on them. If others would like to read them or post in them, that is their perogative. If you don't like threads about Feds, don't click on them.

[eva unit zero 271]

Well, that was an option, Sergei...

So you're saying that in a contract negotiation, if you only have ONE requirement, and the other party tells you they will meet it , and then pulls that offer and responds with continued reductions in the offer...you would still take the deal if someone else met your ONE REQUIREMENT?

I still say this...anyone who is angry with Fedorov for leaving is angry because he was key to the team. In which case, you should be angry with HOLLAND for not keeping him when he had the option.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Always admired Fedorov and I always will. What he has done on the ice speaks for itself.

I would have been thrilled to have him back in the red and white, but I am happy that he seems to have found his comfort zone in Washington.

He is an UFA this summer so ...... one can always dream?

Yeah, because we don't have enough 40 year old players. The Wings should forget about moving forward as a franchise and just try to corner the market on the league's elder statesman.

Yeah, he can still play the game and yes, he's still a pretty darn good two-way player. So what. We don't need him. He doesn't give the Wings anything they need or are lacking. People only want him back for sentimental reasons.

I guess I should start a ******* bring back Dino Ciccarelli thread every day and see how tired people get of hearing about it.

****Breaking NEWS! Fedorov just took a crap. He had a bagel for breakfast and now he's reading Maxim Magazine.

Stay tuned. more Fedorov updates coming every 3.75 seconds. LGW-The only place to go to get the scoop on all things Fedorov!

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Just because you are not interested in something, doesn't mean that others are not. I enjoyed the post, and went to the Freep site to read the whole article. There are a lot of threads on here that I am not interested in, so I don't even click on them. If others would like to read them or post in them, that is their perogative. If you don't like threads about Feds, don't click on them.

Ever hear of overkill? Do we really need 100+ fedorov threads every year on a Red Wings website?

To be quite honest, LGW should have an around the league discussion area where s*** like this is supposed to go. Every other team site has a place where you can stroke other players and be all giddy reading about other teams. If LGW would have that and people would follow the rules we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Fedorov is not a Red Wing anymore. So why do we have to have so many threads about him?

Can the mods make a place to talk about hockey, non Wings related stuff?

[OsGOD 3]

Yeah, because we don't have enough 40 year old players. The Wings should forget about moving forward as a franchise and just try to corner the market on the league's elder statesman.

Yeah, he can still play the game and yes, he's still a pretty darn good two-way player. So what. We don't need him. He doesn't give the Wings anything they need or are lacking. People only want him back for sentimental reasons.

I guess I should start a ******* bring back Dino Ciccarelli thread every day and see how tired people get of hearing about it.

****Breaking NEWS! Fedorov just took a crap. He had a bagel for breakfast and now he's reading Maxim Magazine.

Stay tuned. more Fedorov updates coming every 3.75 seconds. LGW-The only place to go to get the scoop on all things Fedorov!

Well that would be kinda annoying 'cause the only hockey Dino is playing is free for fans in the old-timers games... Maybe some Tonsil hockey with his wife, but yeah he isn't playing nhl puck anymore...needless to say not in the playoffs.

[Reds4Life 51]

I guess I should start a ******* bring back Dino Ciccarelli thread every day and see how tired people get of hearing about it.

****Breaking NEWS! Fedorov just took a crap. He had a bagel for breakfast and now he's reading Maxim Magazine.

Stay tuned. more Fedorov updates coming every 3.75 seconds. LGW-The only place to go to get the scoop on all things Fedorov!

What or who makes you come and read the topic?

And I guess using word "*******" should bring some seriousness into your post?

I don't know, I don't really care if we get Feds or not, I still like him and always will, does not matter what uniform he wears. Why are you still arguing with people who would want him back?

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Well that would be kinda annoying 'cause the only hockey Dino is playing is free for fans in the old-timers games... Maybe some Tonsil hockey with his wife, but yeah he isn't playing nhl puck anymore...needless to say not in the playoffs.

Very true. But there's not much difference. So Fedorov is still in the NHL. Great, too bad he plays for Washington and in a completely different conference and hasn't laced up for the Wings in what, half a decade?

I guess I could start the following every day

bring back (insert name) thread every day

How about:

Shanahan, Lapointe, Devereaux, Schneider, Bertuzzi, Legace

Yeah, maybe i'll start those threads every single day and continue to post and bump them up the queue and see how much people like it.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

What or who makes you come and read the topic?

And I guess using word "*******" should bring some seriousness into your post?

I don't know, I don't really care if we get Feds or not, I still like him and always will, does not matter what uniform he wears. Why are you still arguing with people who would want him back?

People who know me know i've said in the past there are conditions under which I would not mind him back. But thanks for assuming you know anything about me.

Bottom line, it's annoying. Every day there's a new Fedorov thread. WHY?

It's our first game of the playoffs and people are still posting insignificant threads about nothing just because it makes Fedorov look good. Okay, so what. He had kind words for his new owner. Is this really necessary to have its own thead? Are we going to have to hear about everything he does?

You ask me why I argue with these people. Let me ask you why can't people move on already?

Answer: People don't have to move on and can post whatever they want because we have a "general" thread instead of a Wings thread and an around the NHL thread.

And because I can tell them how sick I am of seeing Fedorov threads. They have a right to post and I have a right to complain about it.

Seems to me the best thing to do would be to alter the site.

[Reds4Life 51]

People who know me know i've said in the past there are conditions under which I would not mind him back. But thanks for assuming you know anything about me.

uhmm..I never thought I know you.

Bottom line, it's annoying. Every day there's a new Fedorov thread. WHY?

It's our first game of the playoffs and people are still posting insignificant threads about nothing just because it makes Fedorov look good. Okay, so what. He had kind words for his new owner. Is this really necessary to have its own thead? Are we going to have to hear about everything he does?

You ask me why I argue with these people. Let me ask you why can't people move on already?

Answer: People don't have to move on and can post whatever they want because we have a "general" thread instead of a Wings thread and an around the NHL thread.

And because I can tell them how sick I am of seeing Fedorov threads. They have a right to post and I have a right to complain about it.

Well, this thread was not started as a discussion who wants Fedorov back and who does not. I don't see anything wrong about this.

Like I said I don't care about Fedorov and I don't care if he plays for Caps or Flames or any team.

But I still like him as an athlete and I like to read articles about him. What is wrong about that?

[Nev 1,085]

Now that is a Feds statement that I can agree on, he is a tremendously gifted athlete, he is one of those guys who you look at and see a natural ability and athleticism that makes you think he could have been a pro at a lot of sports!

A couple of years ago there was a charity football (soccer) match organised by the singer Robbie Williams at Old Trafford - celebrities vs ex-internationals (including Diego Maradonna). Sergei played for the celebrities in central midfield. It was done as a kind of reality TV show over a week as the celebrity team got whittled down to the starting 11.

Fedorov-in-giving-up-a-week-of-his-off-season-for-charity-shocker!!! But he's selfish and greedy and lazy and he sucks?!?!

BTW, the best player on the pitch was Damien Lewis (Captain Winters in Band of Brothers) who was outstanding, but Sergei didn't disgrace himself.

@GS&T - if you hate Feds threads so much, I suggest you don't read them. I read less than 10% of the threads here. Why? Because they don't intrest me. Fedorov was, and is, dearly loved by a lot of Wings fans, who would like to see the Caps do well because of him. Ironically, I've yet to see any Wings fans say they want the Rag$ to do well because of Shanny.....

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

uhmm..I never thought I know you.

Well, this thread was not started as a discussion who wants Fedorov back and who does not. I don't see anything wrong about this.

Like I said I don't care about Fedorov and I don't care if he plays for Caps or Flames or any team.

But I still like him as an athlete and I like to read articles about him. What is wrong about that?

Like I said, if the LGW mods could make a Wings thread and an around the league thread we wouldn't be having this discussion.

There's nothing "wrong" about wanting to read Fedorov threads but jesus christ it gets old IMO.

Does anybody disagree or think having a General thread about hockey doesn't lead to more tiffs on here and that the site would cleaner and better if we had a Wings thread and an around the NHL thread?

This would solve alot of issues. I don't have to see Fedorov threads every 5 seconds and Fedorov fans can post as many damned threads about him somewhere where I don't have to see them.

[Sergeiwasmyfav 0]

Ever hear of overkill? Do we really need 100+ fedorov threads every year on a Red Wings website?

To be quite honest, LGW should have an around the league discussion area where s*** like this is supposed to go. Every other team site has a place where you can stroke other players and be all giddy reading about other teams. If LGW would have that and people would follow the rules we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Fedorov is not a Red Wing anymore. So why do we have to have so many threads about him?

Can the mods make a place to talk about hockey, non Wings related stuff?

I understand what you are saying; I wouldn't have a problem with your suggestion of how to change the site. However, since the site is how it is for the moment, I don't see the need to criticize others for posting things they think may be of interest to others. And this was of interest to me. If Nev hadn't started the thread, I wouldn't have known about the article, and I wouldn't have gone to the Freep site where I found a link to another interesting article from a Washington newspaper about Feds. So, this was of interest to at least one person, me. Therefore, I would say it wasn't a pointless thread like you said.

[Opie 308]

GS&T I disagree with you only because the fact of the matter is that no one posts in other forums than the General one because no one really reads the others. Think water cooler!

My biggest problem isn't that people post about Feds, fine, but keep it to 3-4 threads a month, not 2-3 a day.

This board has this funny little feature called search, some may know the term to google something, this is the same thing. If some one were to type Fedorov, Federov, Feds, Segei Fedorov, sergei federov, or any other combination or his name, correctly spelled or incorrectly they would fine many threads about him. And then, hold on this is the best part, if they post in the old thread miraculously the thread goes back to the front page and to the top of the list.

That has been my contention, that people are too lazy (and suck ) to look for a thread.

But see what they don't understand is the Database behind this board, every new thread takes up a more space than simply putting a new post in an old thread.

But who cares right, oh until the board is slow and then they ***** that the site is slow.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I understand what you are saying; I wouldn't have a problem with your suggestion of how to change the site. However, since the site is how it is for the moment, I don't see the need to criticize others for posting things they think may be of interest to others. And this was of interest to me. If Nev hadn't started the thread, I wouldn't have known about the article, and I wouldn't have gone to the Freep site where I found a link to another interesting article from a Washington newspaper about Feds. So, this was of interest to at least one person, me. Therefore, I would say it wasn't a pointless thread like you said.

Very true. Perhaps a thread like this can get the ball rolling.

[Sergeiwasmyfav 0]

Very true. Perhaps a thread like this can get the ball rolling.

You have my vote. Then I can revel in all my Feds glory all day long, posting every tidbit of information I can find about him. But seriously, I think your idea would be good for the site. Good thinking!!

[Nev 1,085]

FWIW I think a Wings forum and a general NHL forum would be a good idea

*However*

You would still see countless Fedorov threads inthe Wings forum. "Should wings sign Fedorov?", "Should wings trade for Fedorov?", "Was Fedorov our best ever European?", "Should #91 be retired?" etc etc etc

Furthermore, to call for a split in the General Discussion forum, just to get away from Sergei Fedorov threads is a little selfish don't you think?

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

GS&T I disagree with you only because the fact of the matter is that no one posts in other forums than the General one because no one really reads the others. Think water cooler!

My biggest problem isn't that people post about Feds, fine, but keep it to 3-4 threads a month, not 2-3 a day.

This board has this funny little feature called search, some may know the term to google something, this is the same thing. If some one were to type Fedorov, Federov, Feds, Segei Fedorov, sergei federov, or any other combination or his name, correctly spelled or incorrectly they would fine many threads about him. And then, hold on this is the best part, if they post in the old thread miraculously the thread goes back to the front page and to the top of the list.

That has been my contention, that people are too lazy (and suck ) to look for a thread.

But see what they don't understand is the Database behind this board, every new thread takes up a more space than simply putting a new post in an old thread.

But who cares right, oh until the board is slow and then they ***** that the site is slow.

As for altering the site:

This is sort of O/T but will work for this discussion. I invest in what are called Golden Age Comic books. Think late 1930's to early 1950's. Well, we have this message board dedicated to comic books. There's a general comics thread and there's a Golden Age thread. The general is full of junk, fighting, flame wars, banishments, etc.....but still a good place to visit. The GA section (which I liken to a Wings only section) is a million times better, doesn't have the endless sea of inane threads and therefore the endless sea of people fighting and bitching (like me) about it.

People adjust. They do. Watercooler section by their nature keep people away. It sounds so generic.

The Flyers board has a "general Flyers section" and an "around the NHL league" section,

so does the Ducks board, etc...

I'm not saying we have to be like everyone else. Just that it is done and it works just fine.

[irishtemper14+25 11]

i dont know if that makes him self-centered

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

FWIW I think a Wings forum and a general NHL forum would be a good idea

*However*

You would still see countless Fedorov threads inthe Wings forum. "Should wings sign Fedorov?", "Should wings trade for Fedorov?", "Was Fedorov our best ever European?", "Should #91 be retired?" etc etc etc

Furthermore, to call for a split in the General Discussion forum, just to get away from Sergei Fedorov threads is a little selfish don't you think?

Well we just happen to be talking about Fedorov specifically. Generally I still think its a good idea regardless of what player we are talking about or what other team.

And I could ask those who post countless Fedorov threads and "can we bring him back please" threads of being just as selfish.

[OsGOD 3]

Very true. But there's not much difference. So Fedorov is still in the NHL. Great, too bad he plays for Washington and in a completely different conference and hasn't laced up for the Wings in what, half a decade?

I guess I could start the following every day

bring back (insert name) thread every day

How about:

Shanahan, Lapointe, Devereaux, Schneider, Bertuzzi, Legace

Yeah, maybe i'll start those threads every single day and continue to post and bump them up the queue and see how much people like it.

I mean thats all cool if want to do that... i really have no emotional ties to any of those so i won't really be visiting any and they won't destroy my day being up on the site... really.

Its a shame then that even after a decade off the team... the Detroit Media still has NICE things to write about with him... talk about someone leaving a mark on a city

Edited April 10, 2008 by OsGOD

[bringback91 2]

Ever hear of overkill? Do we really need 100+ fedorov threads every year on a Red Wings website?

To be quite honest, LGW should have an around the league discussion area where s*** like this is supposed to go. Every other team site has a place where you can stroke other players and be all giddy reading about other teams. If LGW would have that and people would follow the rules we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Fedorov is not a Red Wing anymore. So why do we have to have so many threads about him?

Can the mods make a place to talk about hockey, non Wings related stuff?

Gordo, overkill is posting the same things in every thread that's about something you don't like over and over again. Anyone who reads anything on this board more than once a month knows how you feel about it. I just don't know that pumping a bunch of responses in a thread you hate is the best way to make them go away. The guy was one of the greatest players to ever where a Detroit uniform, let alone a Wings one, so don't be surprised to still be hearing things about him long after his retirement. And really I like reading new threads, and who cares how many there are on a specific topic anyway? I've seen people complaining, strangely enough none of them have been mod's. You are LGW royalty and all gord, but I wouldn't get your hopes up on Matt redesigning the board around your reading preference. What's dumber than posting a new article about a Red Wing great, is argueing over a playoff roster spot and who gets it when one of the guys never plays beyond the 10 min mark in the 2nd period in a meaningless game, yet you'd think the guy is going to make or break the post season. (BTW wouldn't mind seeing Downey get in a few, and no he's not a loose cannon, but I'm not ready to take up that spot on the bench when there are superior all around players to take that spot on a nightly basis) GO WINGS!

[DaKineMaui 8]

I dare any of you to go back and read this thread all the way through, from the beginning.

Double dog dare.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Unless Federov comes back here for 1 million dollars, Holland won't sign him.

Way throw money at a guy who is going to be playing for a very limited time and is a shadow of his former self when you can make a pitch for a younger guy long term.

I liked him when he played here, and I have nothing against the guy personally at all - but compared to some other UFA's, Federov won't help this team much.