redwings1914 18 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 I was just sitting here reading an article about Ozzie and thought, what if we never went out and traded for Hasek? Would we still have won the cup in '02 (Assuming we still got Hull, Robitaille, Olausson etc)? Would he already have the all time wins record? Would he be over 400 wins possibly 450? Now I know that this is all "What if's?" but lets have a little fun with this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 13, 2008 I was just sitting here reading an article about Ozzie and thought, what if we never went out and traded for Hasek? Would we still have won the cup in '02 (Assuming we still got Hull, Robitaille, Olausson etc)? Would he already have the all time wins record? Would he be over 400 wins possibly 450? Now I know that this is all "What if's?" but lets have a little fun with this... We've had this discussion more than once already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) No, because Ozzie would have never outplayed Roy the way Hasek did. Don't be fooled by what happened in the playoffs this year. Hasek back then was still an elite goalie who was hungry for a Stanley Cup and was great in the clutch. Ozzie meanwhile tanked every year in the playoffs for us against Colorado. We needed Hasek that year to win the Cup, and especially that series. Edited May 13, 2008 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) I doubt it. Dom was unbeatable in games 6 and 7 against Colorado. He was the very reason why we beat Colorado in game6 especially. Edited May 13, 2008 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 I was just sitting here reading an article about Ozzie and thought, what if we never went out and traded for Hasek? Would we still have won the cup in '02 (Assuming we still got Hull, Robitaille, Olausson etc)? Would he already have the all time wins record? Would he be over 400 wins possibly 450? Now I know that this is all "What if's?" but lets have a little fun with this... The only reason I am not sure on this is that he used the chance to get back to Det as a way to hone his skill and add the Butterfly style to his repertoire. But if he had mediocre (for him ) years with Det you have to think that he would have had better stats than if he had mediocre years in NYI or STL. Just based on the fact he would have been playing for a better overall team, he would then have better stats. Or he could have s*** the bed, who knows! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozmanftw 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) I dont know about years past... ...but Oz would be sitting pretty this year in Vezina consideration, with 50 or more wins had he played all year Edited May 13, 2008 by ozmanftw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 This doesn't seem very fun to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowingsgo 3 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 No, because Ozzie would have never outplayed Roy the way Hasek did. Don't be fooled by what happened in the playoffs this year. Hasek back then was still an elite goalie who was hungry for a Stanley Cup and was great in the clutch. Ozzie meanwhile tanked every year in the playoffs for us against Colorado. We needed Hasek that year to win the Cup, and especially that series. As much as I love what Ozzie is doing right now, he wouldn't have shut the Avs out in back to back games like Hasek did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Real1 2 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) Here is what he said.... No, because Ozzie would have never outplayed Roy the way Hasek did. Here is what you said.... As much as I love what Ozzie is doing right now, he wouldn't have shut the Avs out in back to back games like Hasek did. You pretty much said the same thing..... Edited May 13, 2008 by Real1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 No, because Ozzie would have never outplayed Roy the way Hasek did. Don't be fooled by what happened in the playoffs this year. Hasek back then was still an elite goalie who was hungry for a Stanley Cup and was great in the clutch. Ozzie meanwhile tanked every year in the playoffs for us against Colorado. We needed Hasek that year to win the Cup, and especially that series. At that point of their respective careers, I completely agree. Dom stole Game 6 for us and didn't allow a thing in the Game 7 rout. Right now though, Ozzie looks like he could outplay anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 Right now though, Ozzie looks like he could outplay anyone. Yep. Contrary to what the media wants you to think, Osgood has been the best goaltender in the playoffs since the first game he started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowingsgo 3 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 Here is what he said.... Here is what you said.... You pretty much said the same thing..... I was reinforcing what he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted May 13, 2008 What if.... this thread were never posted? That was mean. Hasek won us the Cup in 2002 as much or more than all those big bucks super stars. He had something like 6 or 7 playoff shutouts, kept us in the triple OT game... no way, that was a different time. He was truly the Dominator and Osgodd wasn't ossinating much of anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 .... OsGOD would have been VERY HAPPY!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilmickeyli 40 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 i dunno, all i know is that i am glad ozzie worked hard to improve his style (i.e modernize it) when he returned to detroit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites