Dan Boyle Traded To San Jose

[rage 24]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242464

Sources tell TSN that Tampa Bay Lightning defenceman Dan Boyle has waived his no-trade clause and has agreed to a trade to the San Jose Sharks.

The paper work confirming Boyle has consented is being processed right now and once signed by Boyle, it will clear the way for the Sharks and Lightning to complete the deal.

In return for the 31 year old veteran defenseman, its believed Tampa will receive a package that will include 23 old defenseman Matt Carle, a 1st round pick, a prospect and a 4th round pick.

Sources say defenseman is also part of the deal going to San Jose.

The Vancouver Canucks and Philadelphia Flyers were the other two teams who made in to Boyle's final three trade options.

Wow.

Edited July 4, 2008 by rage

[Probert 5 For Fighting 0]

I've made excuses for this Lightning team recently, but this move is just horrible.

The new frikken owners signed him to a lucrative contract back in February. Than they decided to trade him a few months later? Huh? Boyle is about as responsible as Lidstrom for the success of the Lightning - they were a better than average team with him, and the worst team in the league without him. And they think this trade is going recoup any of that? Matt Carle is a good young kid, but he's not going to contribute more than 30 points. The draft picks? TB is the worst drafting team in the NHL, so you can pretty much pencil those in as useless. Their defensive corps, collectively, might not score 60 points next year.

TB went from contention to the John Taveras sweepstakes pretty quickly.

[Konnan511 1,736]

So Tampa Bay really is going to be the new Penguins eh? All Offense and no defense.

Edited July 4, 2008 by Konnan511

[Probert 5 For Fighting 0]

So Tampa Bay really is going to be the new Penguins eh? All Offense and no defense.

Pittsburgh finished in the top 10 in goals against and played a very effective trap until they ran into the Redwings. They can play defense.

[VM1138 1,921]

They are going out of their way to get rid of their defense, it's incredible.

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

So Tampa Bay really is going to be the new Penguins eh? All Offense and no defense.

looks like it , although i'll enjoy watching Tampa's offence than i do the Penguins , i just can't make myself enjoy watching a team with Crosby on it. lol

[Rivalred 630]

I will comment on this like I did before - is Melrose going to run 4 Forwards and 1 D?

[Wiser19 0]

Teams are nothing without defense: The Lightning are going to be awful (like the Red Wings last Feb) and the Sharks are going to have a great defensive team.

DEFENCE

Player POS No. AGE HT WT SH BirthPlace Draft Info Rookie First

Rob Blake D 4 38 6-4 225 R Simcoe, ON LA(1988)4,70 1990 1989

Matt Carle D 18 23 6-0 205 L Anchorage, AK SJ(2003)2,47 2006 2005

Christian Ehrhoff D 10 25 6-2 205 L Moers, DE SJ(2001)4,106 2003 2003

Derek Joslin D 65 21 6-1 210 L Richmond Hill, ON SJ(2005)5,149 2007

Kyle McLaren D 4 31 6-4 235 L Humboldt, SK Bos(1995)1,9 1995 1995

Douglas Murray D 3 28 6-3 240 L Bromma, SE SJ(1999)8,241 2005 2005

Craig Rivet D 52 33 6-2 210 R North Bay, ON Mon(1992)3,68 1996 1994

Marc-Edouard Vlasic D 44 21 6-1 200 L Montreal, QC SJ(2005)2,35 2006 2006

Dan Boyle

[2probert4 8]

Pittsburgh finished in the top 10 in goals against and played a very effective trap until they ran into the Redwings. They can play defense.

They also played an already defeated Ottawa team, a Rangers team who couldn't score all season long; and a Flyers team that was without a few top players due to injury. Yeah the Pens got there and tip of the hat to them, but those were series that were basically won before they started, they really didn't break a sweat prior to the Finals. All these newspaper articles bashing Hossa for going to the Wings are pathetic; the Pens media are still making excuses and crying, only thing they haven't done is ask Sid what he thinks this week.

[Reds4Life 51]

Sharks just got a lot better. Tampa sucks..as usually.

[Konnan511 1,736]

looks like it , although i'll enjoy watching Tampa's offence than i do the Penguins , i just can't make myself enjoy watching a team with Crosby on it. lol

Oh I completely agree. It will be enjoyabe watching this TB team more than the Cindy Penguins.

[P. Marlowe 748]

Teams are nothing without defense: The Lightning are going to be awful (like the Red Wings last Feb) and the Sharks are going to have a great defensive team.

DEFENCE

Player POS No. AGE HT WT SH BirthPlace Draft Info Rookie First

Rob Blake D 4 38 6-4 225 R Simcoe, ON LA(1988)4,70 1990 1989

Matt Carle D 18 23 6-0 205 L Anchorage, AK SJ(2003)2,47 2006 2005

Christian Ehrhoff D 10 25 6-2 205 L Moers, DE SJ(2001)4,106 2003 2003

Derek Joslin D 65 21 6-1 210 L Richmond Hill, ON SJ(2005)5,149 2007

Kyle McLaren D 4 31 6-4 235 L Humboldt, SK Bos(1995)1,9 1995 1995

Douglas Murray D 3 28 6-3 240 L Bromma, SE SJ(1999)8,241 2005 2005

Craig Rivet D 52 33 6-2 210 R North Bay, ON Mon(1992)3,68 1996 1994

Marc-Edouard Vlasic D 44 21 6-1 200 L Montreal, QC SJ(2005)2,35 2006 2006

Dan Boyle

Remember to take Carle out of that list. San Jose did well to replace Campbell with Blake and Boyle. It looks like their 7th and 8th defensemen (whoever they'll be) would crack the line-up on most teams. That sounds like Red Wings.

[crotty99 302]

I think tampa could be exciting to watch next season with all that fire power.

Too bad they have no D. Same old story i guess.

[Probert 5 For Fighting 0]

They also played an already defeated Ottawa team, a Rangers team who couldn't score all season long; and a Flyers team that was without a few top players due to injury. Yeah the Pens got there and tip of the hat to them, but those were series that were basically won before they started, they really didn't break a sweat prior to the Finals. All these newspaper articles bashing Hossa for going to the Wings are pathetic; the Pens media are still making excuses and crying, only thing they haven't done is ask Sid what he thinks this week.

....That has nothing to do with what I said. Why are you mentioning Hossa? In the regular season, Pittsburgh finished in the top 10 defensively. That's all.

And we caught just as many breaks as Pittsburgh did. Nashville lost its top players, Colorado ended up fielding an AHL team, and so on.

[edicius 3,269]

....That has nothing to do with what I said. Why are you mentioning Hossa? In the regular season, Pittsburgh finished in the top 10 defensively. That's all.

I'm genuinely curious...how many teams in the East finished in the top 10 defensively? That whole West vs. East thing...

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

hahahahah carle is horrible nice job tampa keep up the good work

[wingsdiehard13 33]

I'll go against the grain and say this is a decent swap for both teams. Tampa got a defensemen with alot of potential, and a 1st rounder. Don't get me wrong, Tampa is being incredibly stupid by trading away their best defensmen.

[Probert 5 For Fighting 0]

I'm genuinely curious...how many teams in the East finished in the top 10 defensively? That whole West vs. East thing...

There is no East/West mentality, but the West does have definitively better competition in my book.

7 of the top 10 were from the West. The East, unfortunately, has the displeasure of playing host to the 3 most embarrassingly bad franchises - ATL, TB and Toronto.

[shannyfan1414 0]

Did Boyle want out of town for some reason?

I find it strange that Tampa starts working to make themselves a better franchise then they lose their best D man. Maybe he not a Melrose fan. I can' t blame him there.

Kind of strange would like to know if there is more to this story then we are currently hearing.

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

Did Boyle want out of town for some reason?

I find it strange that Tampa starts working to make themselves a better franchise then they lose their best D man. Maybe he not a Melrose fan. I can' t blame him there.

Kind of strange would like to know if there is more to this story then we are currently hearing.

they asked him to waive his NTC because they need cap space

[Probert 5 For Fighting 0]

they asked him to waive his NTC because they need cap space

Which is made all the more stupid based on the fact that the new ownership gave him this contract extension.

[Booster313 138]

Tampa Bay not withstanding...(everyone knows the eastern teams just play for a chance to watch the west win the cup!) I think that the Sharks pose our greatest threat.

[CenterIce 83]

Which is made all the more stupid based on the fact that the new ownership gave him this contract extension.

I believe it was the old owenership who gave him the extension. Also, I believe even with him, they are under the cap.

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?tea...amp;season=0809

[egroen 384]

There is no East/West mentality, but the West does have definitively better competition in my book.

There is no East/West mentality, but more and more defencemen are moving to the West for forwards and the West spends significantly more on defence than the East.

Edited July 4, 2008 by egroen

[agdomain 0]

Dan Boyle loves Tampa and is loved down here in return. He is currently building a house in the area... his wife is from Tampa... etc etc. The hot rumor was that he would only accept a trade to Ottawa (logic being that Tampa is close to the wife's family and Ottawa is where his family is), but apparently that was not the case (Ottawa didn't have much to offer besides Meszaros anyway).

Bottom line though, this was purely a cap move. He will be making nearly 7 mil for the next six years, which was too much for the new ownership's liking. I think Boyle is a great defenseman, but I think the Lightning did the right thing in shipping him off while the goods were hot-- once Dan is 38, that deal might not look nearly as good.

Now the Bolts are back under the cap and have room to work with. They get Carle (I would've preferred Ehrhoff) and it looks like the prospect is Devin Setoguchi (SJ's first rounder in '05).

The defense will most likely shape up like this:

Carle-Kuba (I really wish they would've traded Kuba too... he's not worth his salary)

Ranger-O'Brien

Lundin-Picard?

I can live with the first two pairings (I am a fan of Paul Ranger and I think Shane O'Brien is underrated), but that third pairing scares the death out of me.

Edited July 4, 2008 by agdomain