YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2008...s-therrien.html Three more years of reffing being the only reason the Pens don't go 82-0-0, 16-0-0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 Obstruction! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 why would they do this, don't all the players hate/dislike him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 OBSTRUCTION!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 All the players hated Babcock, too, and he got a three-year extension. (according to media reports) Fact is, we don't know what happens. Crosby is signed for the duration of Therrien's contract (which doesn't actually start for another year, he's on board for 4 years) -- think if he didn't like Michel that he'd be there for very long? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glubki 17 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 Unbelievable..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 UUUUUHBSTRUCTION! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 Some players didn't like Babcock, yes. But Babcock is a good coach, so you put up with it. Therrien is worthless. Worthless + Disliked= Bad Move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 Deh obstruction? Deh diving? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 All the players hated Babcock, too, and he got a three-year extension. (according to media reports) Fact is, we don't know what happens. Crosby is signed for the duration of Therrien's contract (which doesn't actually start for another year, he's on board for 4 years) -- think if he didn't like Michel that he'd be there for very long? All the players that "hated" Babcock were lazy bums in the twilights of their careers who hated that they were actually asked to use the body and back-check. The fact that they "hated" Babcock was an indication of the fact that Babs was doing what a good coach should do, i.e. getting the most out of his players. If Therrien played any part in the loss of Hossa, Malone, and Roberts, you can be sure it wasn't because Therrien was asking them to develop stronger work ethics, as all those guys are hard workers and complete players as it is. As for Babcock, I started liking him when he kicked our asses all around the ice in 2003, managed to take an underdog team to within one game of the finals (much better than Therrien did when comparing the Ducks competition plus their roster on paper), and then got a team chock full of skilled Europeans to play a grinding style game. Therrien took the best Eastern team on paper to the Stanley Cup Finals. Basically, he did what he should have done with a roster like he had, and any competition in the East being already eliminated (Montreal) or with significant injuries (Philly). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 All the players that "hated" Babcock were lazy bums in the twilights of their careers who hated that they were actually asked to use the body and back-check. The fact that they "hated" Babcock was an indication of the fact that Babs was doing what a good coach should do, i.e. getting the most out of his players. If Therrien played any part in the loss of Hossa, Malone, and Roberts, you can be sure it wasn't because Therrien was asking them to develop stronger work ethics, as all those guys are hard workers and complete players as it is. As for Babcock, I started liking him when he kicked our asses all around the ice in 2003, managed to take an underdog team to within one game of the finals (much better than Therrien did when comparing the Ducks competition plus their roster on paper), and then got a team chock full of skilled Europeans to play a grinding style game. Therrien took the best Eastern team on paper to the Stanley Cup Finals. Basically, he did what he should have done with a roster like he had, and any competition in the East being already eliminated (Montreal) or with significant injuries (Philly). blah blah blah blah -- hint: the media reports weren't credible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HkyTwn 5 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 Obstruction! Took the words right off my keyboard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. On one hand, we experience Therrien just whine, and whine, and whine................in the Stanley Cup Finals to where it doesn't sound unfathomable and somewhat realistic that there might be some type of problem in the locker room. On the other hand, while Pittsburgh definitely had a very talented roster this past season, you don't get to the SCF by mistake. Sure, their talent and play had plenty to do with it, but you got to coach a team to the Finals as well. And before anybody discredits Therrien for perhaps not needing to do as much because Pittsburgh is/was so talented on the ice, we seem to have a coach (and for the record I do think Mike Babcock kicks a**) that has been fortunate to have some pretty talented roster in his three seasons in Detroit so far. Just sayin... Oh well, at least we'll see our fair share of the droopy-eyed sorry doggy face whenever Pittsburgh loses a game. I think Therrien's accent/voice is very comparable to that of the Swedish Chef from the Muppets. BORK! BORK! BORK! Edited July 19, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2008...s-therrien.html Three more years of reffing being the only reason the Pens don't go 82-0-0, 16-0-0 This is a guy that refused to put his best player on the ice during the PK because he felt he wasn't ready. Even after being outscored 7-0 in the first 2 games, Sydney was sitting while the Wings were on the PP. He also sat Gary Roberts for the 1st 2 games even though Roberts exhibited the veteran leadership that the team was desperate for. Stupid. Just plain stupid. Poor decision making. Who would want to play for a coach like that? Obviously not Hossa, Malone, Roberts, Laroque, or Conklin. They may or may not like him but he's not a good coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dump-N-Thump Report post Posted July 19, 2008 Be brought a team full of stars to the Stanely Cup and lost. Minus, Malone,Hossa,Conklin,Laraque,Ruutu, im sure htre are more, but seriously wdf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 This is a guy that refused to put his best player on the ice during the PK because he felt he wasn't ready. Even after being outscored 7-0 in the first 2 games, Sydney was sitting while the Wings were on the PP. He also sat Gary Roberts for the 1st 2 games even though Roberts exhibited the veteran leadership that the team was desperate for. Stupid. Just plain stupid. Poor decision making. Who would want to play for a coach like that? Obviously not Hossa, Malone, Roberts, Laroque, or Conklin. They may or may not like him but he's not a good coach. Gary Roberts re-signed while Therrien was coach. He liked his coach enough to sign for two years. And he and Laraque were the two (offensive) healthy scratches in the Finals. They didn't have enough money for Malone, since they wanted to sign Hossa. And Hossa didn't sign. Conklin knew the Pens' $5m/year, 24-year-old (next year) goaltender was going to play -- a lot, barring injury. Look at the situation in Detroit; if he beats an inconsistent AHL goaltender in training camp, he might have a chance for 25 games. No, he didn't play Crosby as much as others thought he should, specifically on the penalty kill. But their penalty kill wasn't the problem -- and was, in fact, excellent. Staal, Malone, Talbot, Ruutu, etc. did a number on their opponents on the PK. If he would have put Crosby on the ice for a PK, broken up the chemistry those forwards had generated over the first 100 games, he would have been criticized for that, too, if the Wings would have started lighting Crosby and his pals up. As for keeping Roberts benched, they went 12-2 on their way to the Finals. No team is going to change what won the last game. Maltby was kept on the bench for McCarty -- why? Because the Wings were winning. You can argue he did it late (should have done it after losing the first game), but it was a close game until the end. Therrien is an ok coach. I don't think he's the guy I'm getting my team to go all the way with. I don't see him as a great tactician, I don't see him as a great motivator, and I don't see him as a guy with a great deal of dignity. He's is stubborn. But he did take his team from 58 points to 102, and he did coach his team to the Finals. That's generally the point where you re-sign a guy. If not, people outside of your organization wonder what else is wrong with your organization. It wouldn't strike me as a great recruiting technique. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 There goes any shot they had at establishing a dynasty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 There goes any shot they had at establishing a dynasty. Actually, I think losing half their team due to free agency and bad business decisions did that already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soultrain 43 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 i guess that it was the only move they could do....the sharks can't even find assistants to help the one coach they got over in this mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STK 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 why would they do this, don't all the players hate/dislike him? He is a pain in the a$$ (my friend's father I actually have met him he's been at my hockey games many times). But he gets the most out of his players. Most people here are very excited to have him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 Well, Crosby's not getting his name on the cup for the next three years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 20, 2008 All the players hated Babcock, too, and he got a three-year extension. (according to media reports) Fact is, we don't know what happens. Crosby is signed for the duration of Therrien's contract (which doesn't actually start for another year, he's on board for 4 years) -- think if he didn't like Michel that he'd be there for very long? I've seen no conclusive journalism that claims the players hate Babcock. Andy Strickland is not reliable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2008 I've seen no conclusive journalism that claims the players hate Babcock. Andy Strickland is not reliable. Did you not see the part where I said, "Fact is, we don't know what happens"? And the next post that said "hint: the media reports weren't credible"? Here, let me spell it out for you: I'm linking the fact that it was written that the players hated Babcock, and it was written the players hated Therrien. The Babcock thing has been debunked, no? The players who didn't like Therrien re-signed in Pittsburgh. It was never substantiated either. Dude, read what I say, and then consider the context of my remarks. It helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
