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NeverForgetMac25

The Official 2008 Green Bay Packers Thread

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timothy1997    0

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One of my fantasy strategies is to start players who are playing against the Lions. So far I'm 2 for 2 with that plan this season.

i have been using that strategy for a while now.

I dont get how pathetic the Lions can be. Just finish the season and be 0-16....might as well.

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yeah, i am seriously thinking of dropping hasselbeck and picking up O'Sullivan from the 49ers just because he is playing against the Lions next...

You know what...that just might work. Remember a few years ago how Artose Pinner had career day against the Lions for the Vikes. I could easily see that happening again.

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back to the Packers thread. I still think Dallas is the best team in the NFC but the game next Sunday night is gonna be huge. Might even decide who gets homefield advantage in the NFC championship game. Too bad Dallas and Green Bay didnt make it both to the NFC championship game last year. The season game was one of the best games of the previous season.

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ok. someone give me some insight in what is going on with the packers. 2 straight losses, no running game with ryan grant and now aaron rodgers is injuried. Honestly I like the Bears more to win the divison over the Pack and I wouldnt have said that 2 weeks ago after Rodgers torched the Lions.

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NeverForgetMac25    483

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TBH Tim, the Packers are really hard to get a read on right now. The only player that has shown up consistently for them has been Woodson who continues to flourish. Other than that, they played Dallas tight until falling apart and yesterday anything and everything that could go wrong for the Packers did. That's not saying that the Bucs got lucky, because they most certainly were the better team yesterday, but the Packers were just complete and utter s*** after the first series. The running game was non-existent, there was no protection, Rodgers wasn't moving around when the pressure was on (which he had done very successfully the first 3 games) and the D-Line really struggled giving up a single big play per series.

TBH, all these things are different than what they showed the first couple weeks, and I still refuse to believe that they aren't a contender. I'm hoping this will be the kick in the balls they need to come together and play with some unity like they were last year. Our blocking has to get better, but our RB's really need to have better vision as well. If they don't, the Packers become one-dimensional and Rodgers isn't ready to carry a team on his back yet the way Favre was able to last year.

Here's hoping for a turnaround.

As for the Bears, they're so schizophrenic I wouldn't call them the division winners just yet. Their defense is playing like they did two seasons ago, but if they get a few injuries and Orton continues to play with inconsistency it'll most certainly catch up with them.

No matter how you slice it, our division isn't looking very strong right now. The NFC East.....WOW!

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NeverForgetMac25    483

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...and Favre throws 6 TD's to rub salt in the wound.

Maybe to Thompson, but not me. I hope Favre does well in NY. I've always loved him and it wasn't as if he wanted to leave the Packers. Besides...the better he does, the better the Jets do and the better the draft pick the Packers get.

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Doggy    130

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Maybe to Thompson, but not me. I hope Favre does well in NY. I've always loved him and it wasn't as if he wanted to leave the Packers. Besides...the better he does, the better the Jets do and the better the draft pick the Packers get.

I guess my point was, the Packers wouldn't be losing games if he was throwing that many touchdowns for them.

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TBH Tim, the Packers are really hard to get a read on right now. The only player that has shown up consistently for them has been Woodson who continues to flourish. Other than that, they played Dallas tight until falling apart and yesterday anything and everything that could go wrong for the Packers did. That's not saying that the Bucs got lucky, because they most certainly were the better team yesterday, but the Packers were just complete and utter s*** after the first series. The running game was non-existent, there was no protection, Rodgers wasn't moving around when the pressure was on (which he had done very successfully the first 3 games) and the D-Line really struggled giving up a single big play per series.

TBH, all these things are different than what they showed the first couple weeks, and I still refuse to believe that they aren't a contender. I'm hoping this will be the kick in the balls they need to come together and play with some unity like they were last year. Our blocking has to get better, but our RB's really need to have better vision as well. If they don't, the Packers become one-dimensional and Rodgers isn't ready to carry a team on his back yet the way Favre was able to last year.

Here's hoping for a turnaround.

As for the Bears, they're so schizophrenic I wouldn't call them the division winners just yet. Their defense is playing like they did two seasons ago, but if they get a few injuries and Orton continues to play with inconsistency it'll most certainly catch up with them.

No matter how you slice it, our division isn't looking very strong right now. The NFC East.....WOW!

Thanks for the info. I got Aaron Rodgers, Greg Jennings and Ryan Grant on my fantasy football team this year. Only player I trust enough to keep him in week after week is Jennings.

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NeverForgetMac25    483

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I guess my point was, the Packers wouldn't be losing games if he was throwing that many touchdowns for them.

True, but up until last week Rodgers wasn't costing them the game with picks. Week 1 against the Vikes was tough and went down to the last possession. One Favre INT could've been the difference. Basically, you gotta look at both sides of it.

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timothy1997    0

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I think the Lions have a much better shot at finishing ahead of Green Bay than Chicago does. The Bears still have no QB, a very questionable running game, no WRs, and their best players on defense are really injury prone.

I'm not ready to make a prediction on the finishing order because I want to see how the QB and DT situation in Green Bay shakes out first (and clearly if Favre does find a way to finagle his release, which I don't expect, then Minnesota is the clear-cut favorite to win the conference, let alone the division). At this point, I see the Packers and Vikings first and second (in some order), then the Lions, then the Bears.

Still feel this way?

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Packer487    3

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I gotta be honest, the Favre thing sapped so much of my enjoyment out of this football season. I still love the Packers, I still get kind of mad at the officials during their games (like that BS pass interference call on Pat Lee that kept a Falcons drive alive and let White score even though he massively pushed off---2 for 2 there, stripes), but these losses just don't HURT like they have for years. They just make me more mad than anything.

Rodgers has been pretty good, but he's still thrown two boneheaded interceptions late in games--ya know, the kind that everyone swore he wouldn't make and that's why we were better off with him at QB, yussir. Still, he showed some moxie throwing as well as he did with that shoulder injury. I like the kid, but he shouldn't be playing QB for us yet.

It amazes me that there are 300 million people in this country, 6.5 billion in the world, and we can't find 32 who can punt a football consistently well and are willing to do it for $650,000+ a season. Frost is a joke. I know Ryan has been horrible for Seattle--and I didn't think that much of him--but this Frost guy is just awful. He was great against Minnesota, but since that snap went through his hands in Detroit, he hasn't been right. He cost us that game against Tampa as far as I'm concerned. When you're clinging to a 1-2 point lead and the other team's offense hasn't moved the ball the entire half, it's probably not good to have your punter shank one badly enough that the other team is already in field goal range....makes it easy on them.

What hurts me is to see Favre in a Jets jersey breaking records. I'm thrilled Brett is doing well, even if that team isn't going anywhere because of their defense. They'll be a fun team to watch all year though!

It sucks to see how banged up Green Bay is right now. I hope people are finally starting to appreciate Bigby, but losing Jenkins reallllllly hurts the defense. He was an absolute monster before he got hurt.

The alarming thing this year has been the drop-off in play by both Clifton and Tauscher. They've both been giving up way too many negative plays. And it doesn't help that Colledge has--yet again--gotten progressively worse. Though he did fare pretty well when they moved him outside once Clifton got hurt.

And Woodson? Pimp.

Apart from Nick Collins, Tramon Williams, Woodson, Rodgers, and our return game, it's hard to find too much to be positive about right now. We've got a lot of guys on defense underachieving (Hawk, Barnett, Pickett, KGB) and the injuries are mounting. Still, 8-8 might win this division.

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C-Dub    0

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Apart from Nick Collins, Tramon Williams, Woodson, Rodgers, and our return game, it's hard to find too much to be positive about right now. We've got a lot of guys on defense underachieving (Hawk, Barnett, Pickett, KGB) and the injuries are mounting. Still, 8-8 might win this division.

Agreed but you definitely need to add Driver and Jennings to that list. Jennings is an absolute stud this year!! And I would even lump Nelson in that category, because with injuries to James Jones and Ruvell Martin, he has really stepped in nicely and is doing a good job. The running game is my biggest concern right now on offense, and well, the defensive interior (DL, LBs) overall.

Indy is going down this week!!! We gotta start winning at home. <_<

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Packer487    3

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Pathetic.

Only reason the game was even close today was because our secondary and the ineptitude of Frerotten kept it that way. The Packers had no business being in this one. For awhile there it was a nice race between total yards and penalty yards.

The offensive line sucks and Rodgers looked horrible out there. He's had good games, but you could make a definite argument that he cost us the game today, the Tampa game, the Atlanta game and last week's game against Tennessee (though he played well as a whole in that one). He just holds onto the ball so goddamn long. Taking two safeties is inexcusable, though I think we'll get a meaningless apology from the NFL about the first one. That wasn't an illegal forward pass (he didn't throw it twice and he wasn't over the line of scrimmage) and I don't think it was intentional grounding.

They need to scrap the zone blocking deal. They just get manhandled every time they go up against a big defensive line.

And the linebackers blow. I don't know what happened to Barnett but he's been terrible this year and Hawk hasn't done anything.

They don't even look like a well-coached football team right now. They're the most penalized team in the league, Will Blackmon kept doing stupid things (before he redeemed himself with that TD) like RUN A PUNT OUT OF THE ENDZONE, and McCarthy just can't resist challenging plays he has no hope of getting overturned.

It's frustrating to watch this crap product on the field after they looked like a budding dynasty last year. Great season, youngest team in the league. Now they have to win next week or they have no shot at the playoffs. I guess that's what happens when you make the worst personnel decision of the decade during the offseason.

TT and MM are just lucky they got their contract extensions before the "train left the station". Hard to resist pointing out that the other guy is 6-3 and in first place...

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Packer487    3

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Rodgers has been fine for a first year starter. It's just stupid that we went with a first year starter in the first place.

They just don't look like they're having any fun. They haven't all year. I can't imagine what the difference is......

I'm at the point where I wish they could bring back Derrick Frost just to cut him again. That was the only fun part of the season (beside Peyton Manning trying like crazy to throw a garbage time TD and failing).

I don't even get mad during games anymore. They're getting exactly what they deserve. It's been a long time since I've had this little fun watching football. Even the 4-12 season was more fun than this. At least that team fought like hell.

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Doggy    130

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I can't believe the Packers are gonna lose this one to the Bears. They were a little hard done-by from the refs. That pass interference on Driver stands out. The Bears D got it done though. Crazy FG block.

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