DRAPES RULES 7 Report post Posted October 12, 2008 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=386126 Anybody got footage of what he did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbochan 15 Report post Posted October 12, 2008 At about 1:07, Peca gets slew-footed by Morrow while fighting off a 5 on 3. At about the 1:15 mark, it looks like Peca grabbed the pussified ref's arm so he could get in front of him to plead his case. That's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2008 Well who is dumb enough to grab a ref's arm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 And from reading an article earlier at TSN (dunno if the NHL.com article includes this, didn't read it), Peca said that the league accused him of swinging his stick at the ref. Uhh... Seriously, in a case like this? I believe Peca. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 He was clearly slewfooted and no call, and seconds later Dallas scores a goal as Peca is getting back to his feet. He's pissed off and go and grabs the refs arm and pulls him around to tell him what an idiot he is (I agree wih him.) and plead his case. I cant believe there accusing him of swinging his stick, theres no way I believe that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 Contact with the referee I assume is an absolute no-no in terms of a player questioning a ref's judgment/call and stuff like that, so I wouldn't be surprised for discipline on Peca for simply making contact with a referee, but what he is being accused for right now, that's just too much and it looks like he barely scraped the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 You can't really tell from that video what he actually did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 At about 1:07, Peca gets slew-footed by Morrow while fighting off a 5 on 3. At about the 1:15 mark, it looks like Peca grabbed the pussified ref's arm so he could get in front of him to plead his case. That's it. It looks like Peca is able to get back up and then tries to block the shot; the slewfoot didn't have any effect on his ability to defend as far as what can be seen in the video. As far as Peca's offense...there is too much time that is unaccounted for from 1:15 until the end of the video when a potential offense could have occurred for this video to be viewed as anything other than evidence that Peca was knocked down and a goal was scored shortly thereafter but not as a direct result. Peca may well have abused the ref, and typically refs don't make that kind of s*** up. Hopefully the NHL is using better camera angles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 It looks like Peca is able to get back up and then tries to block the shot; the slewfoot didn't have any effect on his ability to defend as far as what can be seen in the video. As far as Peca's offense...there is too much time that is unaccounted for from 1:15 until the end of the video when a potential offense could have occurred for this video to be viewed as anything other than evidence that Peca was knocked down and a goal was scored shortly thereafter but not as a direct result. Peca may well have abused the ref, and typically refs don't make that kind of s*** up. Hopefully the NHL is using better camera angles. This is a video shot by a fan from the stands, so I'm sure NHL gets better angles when they're reviewing this. Referees know that they can't make stuff up because things that happen on the ice are documented by cameras and witnessed by many. Here's a better angle of Morrow tripping Peca (at 4:10) and I agree too that him falling down didn't really affect his defensive play. Maybe it should've been a penalty though. What you can't see in this video is what Peca did to the referee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 It looks like Peca is able to get back up and then tries to block the shot; the slewfoot didn't have any effect on his ability to defend as far as what can be seen in the video. I don't think Peca's beef was necessarily that the slewfoot lead directly to the goal, but more that if the ref had called it (and a slewfoot should ALWAYS be called), then the goal wouldn't have been scored. He was right to be pissed as all hell, and I can totally understand grabbing the ref like that in his excited state. He obviously wasn't trying to hurt him or threaten him or anything (at least that's the way it seemed), but he should still probably face some discipline just to let players know not to ever do that type of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 Definately saw no swinging of the stick on Peca's part. And like someone said, it was the emotion of the moment that led to his grabbing of the ref's arm and pleading his case. Nothing to be suspended indefinately for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 I like Pickles, and don't think he should have been suspended for that. Does anyone else remember the time Cujo (as a Leaf, the first time around) attacked a ref --literally tackled him to the ice? Those were the days. I can't recall if he got suspended or fined, but I suppose he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 ...it was a bullsheet non-call, with the ref blantently ignoring it. The play was right there, he was looking right at it. This crap needs to stop, the refs should not be able to control the outcome of the game and when their ineptness causes a team an unfair advantage or directly results in a team losing, both ref's missing the infraction should be suspended and fined. Maybe next time instead of grabbing the ref, the next time Peca is out on this ice he should dump the puck in the zone right at the ref's head, that'll get his attention. These ref's are not God's, they should be put in their place once in a while. The NHL says it will not tollerate ref abuse, but what about player and team abuse by NOT calling obvious penalties just because of the guys name on the back of his sweater? The ref deserves to be fined and suspended for being bias... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 This is a video shot by a fan from the stands, so I'm sure NHL gets better angles when they're reviewing this. Referees know that they can't make stuff up because things that happen on the ice are documented by cameras and witnessed by many. Here's a better angle of Morrow tripping Peca (at 4:10) and I agree too that him falling down didn't really affect his defensive play. Maybe it should've been a penalty though. What you can't see in this video is what Peca did to the referee. Honestly, after seeing this video I would have to say that Morrow's "slew foot" is not a penalty. If you watch Morrow's head, he is watching the puck the whole time. It seems to be an accidental collision; the referee made the correct call by not calling a penalty on the play. What we still don't see is what Peca did. But it will get sorted out, and the ref clearly made the correct call with regard to the play on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbyrocks18 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 Honestly, after seeing this video I would have to say that Morrow's "slew foot" is not a penalty. If you watch Morrow's head, he is watching the puck the whole time. It seems to be an accidental collision; the referee made the correct call by not calling a penalty on the play. . as a defensemen who has mastered the slew foot in front of the net for... moments when necessary haha ... i make it look as accidental as possible and one of them being looking the other way to make it like a colision, your right he was looking at the play but there is a very strong chance it was on purpose assuming the pros know the tricks that even the amateurs know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 as a defensemen who has mastered the slew foot in front of the net for... moments when necessary haha ... i make it look as accidental as possible and one of them being looking the other way to make it like a colision, your right he was looking at the play but there is a very strong chance it was on purpose assuming the pros know the tricks that even the amateurs know. There's a good chance hat that's just what happened especially since it was Brenden Morrow. He is an interesting player, not Lady Byng worthy, but not dirty either. It's just that he'd do anything to win and he was one of Stars' best players last spring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 While it most certainly didn't look like Peca swung at the ref, he still broke the rules. He's gotta know no matter how upset you get you just can't touch the ref. He let his emotions get the best of him, but hopefully this stick-swinging allegation gets squashed rather quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 I like Pickles, and don't think he should have been suspended for that. Does anyone else remember the time Cujo (as a Leaf, the first time around) attacked a ref --literally tackled him to the ice? Those were the days. I can't recall if he got suspended or fined, but I suppose he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 Honestly, after seeing this video I would have to say that Morrow's "slew foot" is not a penalty. If you watch Morrow's head, he is watching the puck the whole time. It seems to be an accidental collision; the referee made the correct call by not calling a penalty on the play. What we still don't see is what Peca did. But it will get sorted out, and the ref clearly made the correct call with regard to the play on the ice. ...so a player has to be looking at a guy in order to commit a penalty? Duh! You look away from the guy in order to "LOOK" innocent! Morrow sold it well, and that ref bought it before it was put on the shelf! I know you are not that naive! Penalty should have been called, blatent, blatent slew foot, horrible non-call by ref. Suspend him, fine him, then cut his nards off... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 </B> Haha Cujo!! He was always and still is a fiesty one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 Haha Cujo!! He was always and still is a fiesty one. Fiesty? Try insane. :looney: If some other goalie did that, especially now, he'd be thrown out of the league. But it was pretty funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 Fiesty? Try insane. :looney: If some other goalie did that, especially now, he'd be thrown out of the league. But it was pretty funny. How about that time when Dom accidentally took out the ref when he was skating to the bench? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 ...so a player has to be looking at a guy in order to commit a penalty? Duh! You look away from the guy in order to "LOOK" innocent! Morrow sold it well, and that ref bought it before it was put on the shelf! I know you are not that naive! Penalty should have been called, blatent, blatent slew foot, horrible non-call by ref. Suspend him, fine him, then cut his nards off... So running into a player is a penalty now? Who knew?! Unless he kicks his feet out from under him (which I didn't see) then there should be no penalty called. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 13, 2008 He used his stick and leg to slewfoot him down, it wasnt accidental, Morrow knew what he was doing. When Malkin did this to Mara in the playoffs, it wasnt a big deal. I dont know why, slewfoots are one of the most dangerous plays in hockey. Falling down awkwardly like that is never good. There should've been a penalty, if I was Peca, i'd have done the exact same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbochan 15 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 So Peca was defending a 5 on 3 and got slew-footed by Morrow and it wasn't called. Because of that, Dallas scored their first goal of the season and the place went absolutely nuts, as one can tell from the vid. The ref couldn't hear the other ref next to him, much less Peca trying to get his attention from behind him, so Peca grabbed his arm to get his attention. It comes down to this: The entire situation is ridiculous. It just epitomizes that NHL officiating is the worst in any sport, anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
