seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) Here's the ESPN story. It clears some things up, or further convolutes them. Who knows? http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3641566 He said a team of doctors tried to revive Cherepanov but couldn't. Cherepanov was taken to a local hospital where further attempts to revive him failed. When asked about the availability of a defibrillator or whether medical equipment was in working order that might have helped Cherepanov, Fleming said he had been asked not to comment by team officials. Fleming said he would meet with team management in the morning to determine the next course of action vis a vis whether there would be an investigation into the circumstances surrounding Cherepanov's death. Another report suggested the ambulance usually stationed at the arena had left and had to be called back, delaying Cherepanov's transport to the hospital. That report could not be independently verified. One thing seems relatively certain in the wake of Cherepanov's death -- given the preventative measures in place in every NHL arena, it's unlikely that such an incident would have taken place in an NHL venue. There's also video of what went down on the bench, but I don't want to post it until I get an OK from a mod or something. Not graphic, just macabre and disturbing. Edited October 14, 2008 by SeeinRed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babycks0612 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 its very sad and tragic when anyone dies, but this is very tragic because it seems like the outcome could have been better if the ambulance had not left, how sad... but who knows if anything could have been different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 This kind of crazy thing happens from time to time. I knew a kid in highschool who fell out of his bed and his heart stopped working; another in college who was just about to start his morning jog when the same thing happened. Honestly, being right at a sporting facility is usually one of the best places to be for this to happen. That the ambulance was gone and there was no defibrillator did not help though, but I bet he was receiving chest compressions almost right away. My friend in college was seen when he collapsed and was in a hospital within ten minutes, but still did not come through. I also really, really feel bad for Jagr... I doubt he has the Ivan Drago attitude of Shoreline, "If he dies, he dies." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FischerFan1973 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 My prayers go out to his family! Fischer was very luck to have the AED and great medical staff. Something he never takes for granted. There are no guarantees that the AED would have made a difference but I think we have to believe that it would have. We all need to believe that if something every happened to us, that one of these would/could save our lives. Fischer believes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) This kind of crazy thing happens from time to time. I knew a kid in highschool who fell out of his bed and his heart stopped working; another in college who was just about to start his morning jog when the same thing happened. Honestly, being right at a sporting facility is usually one of the best places to be for this to happen. That the ambulance was gone and there was no defibrillator did not help though, but I bet he was receiving chest compressions almost right away. My friend in college was seen when he collapsed and was in a hospital within ten minutes, but still did not come through. I also really, really feel bad for Jagr... I doubt he has the Ivan Drago attitude of Shoreline, "If he dies, he dies." I also feel bad for Jagr, he has lost a good friend. But Jagr did not collide with Cherepanov, there was a contact, but it was minor. Cherepanov died because he was cleared to play hockey even though he was seriously ill. The autopsy has been done, the preliminary conclusion is myocardial ischaemia, possibly caused by heart muscle hypertrophy. His heart's weight was 490g, normal weight is 290g. "The Jagr killed him" story was made up by some loser. Rest in peace Alexei Edited October 14, 2008 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Horrible news.... I am usually not one for investigations, but it seems to me that this type of thing happens a lot more than it did in years past. I don't know if it has anything to do with drugs/medications (and I definately do not want to insuiate that this happened) but I would like to see ana investigation with the Fischer/Zednik/Cherepanov plus the countless other incidents in hockey rinks around the world before more people die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babycks0612 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Why would you put Zednik in the group with Fischer and Cherepanov, Zednik didnt collapse from a heart problem, he was cut with a blade in the neck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HomeNugget 2 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Why would you put Zednik in the group with Fischer and Cherepanov, Zednik didnt collapse from a heart problem, he was cut with a blade in the neck I think he means Sergei Zholtok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tinyhockey 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 I worked for a team in Itlay last season when my buddy on the team died on the ice and the same thing there was no EMT or defibrillator at the rink. It is just sad to see this happen again and these teams in Europe Darcy Robinson began playing in Europe in 1995. (AP/file) ASIAGO, Italy (AP) -- The entire first round of the Italian hockey league season was suspended following the sudden death of a Canadian defenceman during a game. Darcy Robinson of Kamloops, B.C., dropped to the ice without being hit at 3:25 of the first period of Asiago's game against Renon on Thursday night and was later declared dead at a local hospital, Asiago said. He was 26. The cause of death wasn't given. The local prosecutor's office opened an official inquiry Friday in line with normal procedures, the ANSA news agency reported. The game was called off at 7:32 of the second period after Asiago team officials returned from the hospital. The other three league games Thursday night were suspended after the second period. Also, a second-round match between Asiago and Pontebba scheduled for Saturday was postponed to a date to be determined. Robinson, who played with nearly half a dozen teams in the North American minor leagues before transferring to Asiago in 2005, was in his second season with the Italian club. He held dual Canadian-Italian citizenship. Robinson played junior hockey in Saskatoon and Red Deer. He was selected 233rd overall by the Pittsburgh Penguins in the 1999 draft. Prior to playing in Italy, Robinson played for the AHL's Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins and the ECHL's Wheeling Nailers. He had six goals and three assists with 66 penalty minutes for Asiago last season. The incident follows a spate of recent deaths on the soccer field. Sevilla midfielder Antonio Puerta died after collapsing during a Spanish league match against Getafe last month, and Chaswe Nsofwa, a 26-year-old Zambian striker in the Israeli league, died the next day after collapsing during a practice session. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 Terrible news, but it makes you wonder why there was no defibrillator in the arena or why the ambulance left the game early. That would make for one hell of a good lawsuit if it can be proven he could've been saved with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted October 16, 2008 I doubt he has the Ivan Drago attitude of Shoreline, "If he dies, he dies." Welcome to reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted October 16, 2008 all i can say is much to young Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) Cherepanov online blog translated in to English Sorry if this was posted and I missed it, I'm in a hurry The Siberian Express Thursday, October 9, 2009 11:48 Greetings to all fans of Avangard. My name is Alexei Cherepanov. As of today I am starting my own online blog. In it I will answer your questions and communicate with you. To begin with I want to say thanks to everyone who supports us. The arena is always full, and it helps us greatly to play. I hope that together we will achieve a lot this season. Currently we have three games on the road. It will be the first road trip under the leadership of [new head coach Wayne] Fleming. When he came to the team, he said “Now to us will be a new way. Give everything you’ve got, and together we’ll come out ahead.” With Fleming we spend less time practicing, but it is more intensive. We pay particular attention to our defensive game. And so our preparations for the away games went on as usual. Recently we were told to come to games in business suits. This was done at the initiative of the “Council of Four”, as they have been named in the press. In it are included Sasha Svitov, Dima Ryabikin, Jagr and Anton Kuryanov. They talked with the coach and delivered this decision. I know that some of the guys had to buy suits. I had no such problem — in my closet hangs two complete suits. They’re from my time at the draft. So I only had to buy a coat. This season there has been an important event — the arrival of Jagr. I generally consider him my fourth coach. He always gives me advice when something doesn’t work out. After practice we often remain with him and work on shooting. And he’s always ready to come to the aid of the other guys. Everyone sees that he very experienced in the game and wants to become a champion. The atmosphere in our team is outstanding. The guys encourage one another. I, by the way, have made a playful wager with [Viktor] Aleksandrov. We have bet a block of chocolates, that I will become the best player at the upcoming junior championships. He doubts it. We’ll see which one of us is eating the chocolate after the championships. So everything with us is good. I hope that my goal scoring streak will last. I will make every effort to make it happen! That’s all for now. We’ll see each other after the road trip! See you then! Edited October 16, 2008 by Four Share this post Link to post Share on other sites