NYR prospect Cherepanov dies during game

[Guest LivingtheDream]

Oh man, it sounds like he could have been one of the best. I wonder if this was similar to what happened to Fischer. Maybe there is some good from all this - a way to spot this kind of problem in advance.

[ShanahanMan 473]

How do these heart conditions not get picked up by doctors??? I just don't get this. With all our advanced technology these days, I'm sure they would be able to pick up this kind of dangerous heart ailment.

[Chelichic 12]

How sad... my heart goes out to his family.

As for heart conditions... I had a friend that died on New Years day 1996. He was a healthy 15 year old.

They didnt even have a name for his condition because it was so rare and the only way to find out about the condition was through an autopsy. Doctors cant find everything that is wrong with a person, but they do try.

Edited October 13, 2008 by Chelichic

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

How sad... my heart goes out to his family.

As for heart conditions... I had a friend that died on New Years day 1996. He was a healthy 15 year old.

They didnt even have a name for his condition because it was so rare and the only way to find out about the condition was through an autopsy. Doctors cant find everything that is wrong with a person, but they do try.

Sorry to hear about your loss as well as Alexei Cherepanov as well.

My thoughts/prayers will be with his family and friends. A terrible tragedy indeed.

[Guest Shoreline]

To be fair, this doesn't necessarily sound like it was a risk of playing hockey. I wonder if this kid had an internal problem that doctors never picked up on. Otherwise, this just doesn't make much sense.

The risk of playing hockey with some "internal problem" is playing hockey can aggravate it.

So hockey is a risk. Everyone knows there's a risk of anything in playing hockey. So that's the way it goes.

Edited October 13, 2008 by Shoreline

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

The risk of playing hockey with some "internal problem" is playing hockey can aggravate it.

So hockey is a risk. Everyone knows there's a risk of anything in playing hockey. So that's the way it goes.

What makes you think he knew he had some "internal problem."

Playing hockey is a risk, but it's not one that's usually life or death.

[Guest Shoreline]

What makes you think he knew he had some "internal problem."

Playing hockey is a risk, but it's not one that's usually life or death.

Going out and driving a car is a risk that involves death. There isn't zero risk in playing hockey. Thought watching the Jiri Fischer incident would have cleared this up. As well as Clint Malarchuk.

Edited October 14, 2008 by Shoreline

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Going out and driving a car is a risk that involves death. There isn't zero risk in playing hockey. Thought watching the Jiri Fischer incident would have cleared this up. As well as Clint Malarchuk.

Wow you're a dick. Could you highlight the part where I said there's zero risk in hockey?

There's plenty of risk. It's just not life or death 99.9% of the time.

So because of the two incidents in 20 years of hockey, he should've known better or something? You might also note that both of those guys are alive today.

[Guest Shoreline]

Wow you're a dick. Could you highlight the part where I said there's zero risk in hockey?

There's plenty of risk. It's just not life or death 99.9% of the time.

So because of the two incidents in 20 years of hockey, he should've known better or something? You might also note that both of those guys are alive today.

So besides name calling like a 10 year old, I have yet to see the point of your posts in response to mine. Maybe that I didn't mourn in the same way you did, who knows -- who cares. If you don't like it, tough s***. There's a risk in playing hockey. Risk for winning the cup, risk for injury, and yes, risk for death. Don't like it, don't play.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

So besides name calling like a 10 year old, I have yet to see the point of your posts in response to mine. Maybe that I didn't mourn in the same way you did, who knows -- who cares. If you don't like it, tough s***. There's a risk in playing hockey. Risk for winning the cup, risk for injury, and yes, risk for death. Don't like it, don't play.

I don't how I could make my point clearer. I guess you can't even understand a 10 year old.

Hockey has risks. Yes. Of course. They are not usually life threatening. When you play hockey at an elite level, you don't expect to die. The death of a 19 year old during a routine hockey game is therefore a fluke and tragic.

If you asked the members of the Red Wings if they would die for the Cup, I bet they'd all say no way in hell. Draper is willing to take a puck in the face to score a goal, but I bet he'd rather go home to his daughter than risk death night in and night out.

But I get it. you're a tough guy. all hard and s***.

one for my homies. Peace out.

[Guest Shoreline]

I don't how I could make my point clearer. I guess you can't even understand a 10 year old.

Hockey has risks. Yes. Of course. They are not usually life threatening. When you play hockey at an elite level, you don't expect to die. The death of a 19 year old during a routine hockey game is therefore a fluke and tragic.

If you asked the members of the Red Wings if they would die for the Cup, I bet they'd all say no way in hell. Draper is willing to take a puck in the face to score a goal, but I bet he'd rather go home to his daughter than risk death night in and night out.

But I get it. you're a tough guy. all hard and s***.

one for my homies. Peace out.

Yeah, whatever. Evidently people who don't act all ******* emo, to you, are all "hard and s***".

It's gonna be a tough fall coming down from that pedestal you're on.

You might want to read the original post of mine and re-consider this stupid rant you're on. It's really doing nothing other than making you look like a clown.

Edited October 14, 2008 by Shoreline

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Yeah, whatever. Evidently people who don't act all ******* emo, to you, are all "hard and s***".

It's gonna be a tough fall coming down from that pedestal you're on.

You might want to read the original post of mine and re-consider this stupid rant you're on. It's really doing nothing other than making you look like a clown.

I read the original post before I spoke, to try and determine if you would really be that big of a heartless ass in a thread where people are commenting on the death of a 19 year old. But alas it seems there's one in every thread.

There's a difference between being all emo about something and just being respectful of a tragedy, instead of trying to perpetuate some fantasy where hockey players have some live by the sword die by the sword gangsta mentality.

[Guest Shoreline]

I read the original post before I spoke, to try and determine if you would really be that big of a heartless ass in a thread where people are commenting on the death of a 19 year old. But alas it seems there's one in every thread.

There's a difference between being all emo about something and just being respectful of a tragedy, instead of trying to perpetuate some fantasy where hockey players have some live by the sword die by the sword gangsta mentality.

I guess that solves it. Anyone who posts here to share their condolences needs to go through the judge, haroldsnepsts, otherwise you're "gangsta", if he doesn't approve. Doesn't get much better than this.

[ZETTERBERGPWN 2]

this is just horrible. ..

rest in peace

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I guess that solves it. Anyone who posts here to share their condolences needs to go through the judge, haroldsnepsts, otherwise you're "gangsta", if he doesn't approve. Doesn't get much better than this.

That would make things easier, but for some reason Matt won't give me that power.

You couldn't manage to share condolences without some crap about "he knew the risks" which as I've said in virtually every response to your post, hockey is not a life or death risk 99.9% of the time. That's not a risk you really have to accept to play the game. But you don't seem interested in addressing that point.

[Guest Shoreline]

That would make things easier, but for some reason Matt won't give me that power.

You couldn't manage to share condolences without some crap about "he knew the risks" which as I've said in virtually every response to your post, hockey is not a life or death risk 99.9% of the time. That's not a risk you really have to accept to play the game. But you don't seem interested in addressing that point.

The point was already addressed. You just have some ineptitude in getting over it. Good luck with your problem. My condolences to you as well.

Edited October 14, 2008 by Shoreline

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

The point was already addressed. You just have some ineptitude in getting over it. Good luck with your problem. My condolences to you as well.

Actually, it wasn't (I read back through your posts). There's a difference between risk of injury and possible death. You seem to miss that distinction. By your reasoning we shouldn't mourn anyone because there is danger in just stepping out the door.

No need for condolences; I knew the risk. Posting here is a dangerous game.

Edited October 14, 2008 by haroldsnepsts

[Guest Shoreline]

No need for condolences; I knew the risk. Posting here is a dangerous game.

With your attitude, no wonder.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

God Speed....

Im wondering if Clenbuterol had anything to do with this, (A leaning steroid gaing massive popularity in russia and is techincally legal there.)

[Yzerman191 37]

Cherepanov died of commotio cordis, a disruption in the electrical system of the heart as a result of the accidental contact with Jagr. He drifted in and out of consciousness, and even recognized his teammates, but they couldn't get his heart back on track.

That's a tragedy... it should be legally required (heck, maybe it is in the U.S.) for all sports arenas to have a functional, easily accessible defibrillator.

Edited October 14, 2008 by Yzerman191

[HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878]

Thats sad

[soultrain 43]

Im thankful that the medical staff was able to save fisher. rip Alexei Cherepanov.

[sharomyga 6]

Rest in peace, Alex. Леша, пусть земля тебе будет пухом...

[lfd250 1]

You can have all the defibrillators you want, unless there's people to maintain them, there really is no way to know. I as a firefighter have training twice a year, and the batteries on our defibrillators need to be changed at least once a week and that is if there is no use. They are easy to use, slap two patches on, hit start, but if the battery is dead what's the use. Also, it has to be a shockable rythm or the defib. is useless. If his heart was fluttering this would've been a shockable rythm. This sounds more like what happen to Pronger and hitting the ice hard shocked his heart back to a regular rythm.

[12Newf 0]

Cherepanov died of commotio cordis, a disruption in the electrical system of the heart as a result of the accidental contact with Jagr. He drifted in and out of consciousness, and even recognized his teammates, but they couldn't get his heart back on track.

That's a tragedy... it should be legally required (heck, maybe it is in the U.S.) for all sports arenas to have a functional, easily accessible defibrillator.

do you have a source?

found a little more info sportsnet

Edited October 14, 2008 by 12Newf