egroen 384 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 I find it always brightens my day to take some time and appreciate when another team is failing miserably. Tampa Bay, with all their offensive acquisitions and moves in the off-season, as well as bringing in our old friend Barry Melrose, is off to a blistering start: Currently winless with an 0-3-2 record and averaging all of 1.60 goals per game (dead last in the NHL). Ha! Ha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 I find it always brightens my day to take some time and appreciate when another team is failing miserably. Classy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 Classy. I've also been quite pleased with Toronto's performance since beating the Wings on Opening Night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 I've also been quite pleased with Toronto's performance since beating the Wings on Opening Night So have I. The more they lose this year, the better it is in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 Classy. Sixty-Seven!!! Sixty-Seven!!! Sixty-Seven!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 The fans really are behind the whole "Tanking for Tavares" thing, aren't they? Can't really blame them... but man, what a painful season this could be (and then not to get him)! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 The fans really are behind the whole "Tanking for Tavares" thing, aren't they? Can't really blame them... but man, what a painful season this could be (and then not to get him)! There are three great kids (and then some) at the top of next year's draft. Tavares. Victor Hedman. Magnus Svensson Pääjärvi. Any one of those three would help out the Leafs quite a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 The fans really are behind the whole "Tanking for Tavares" thing, aren't they? Can't really blame them... but man, what a painful season this could be (and then not to get him)! It's not that painful, they're a fun team to watch and all of the kids go out and bust their asses. They might get Tavares, they might not, but they'll get somebody that they can really build around. When you don't put the focus on wins or losses, losing by one goal or two goals isn't a big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel1 32 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 So have I. The more they lose this year, the better it is in the long run. That has sort of been Toronto's strategy over the past 20 seasons or so... and it hasn't gotten them very far during that time span so I'm not really sure it isn't time to rethink the "losing today=winning tomorrow" strategy. Then again if hockey geniuses like Harold Ballard and Cliff Fletcher think it's the best way to run a franchise then who am I to argue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 That has sort of been Toronto's strategy over the past 20 seasons or so... and it hasn't gotten them very far during that time span so I'm not really sure it isn't time to rethink the "losing today=winning tomorrow" strategy. Then again if hockey geniuses like Harold Ballard and Cliff Fletcher think it's the best way to run a franchise then who am I to argue You're lumping Cliff Fletcher in with Harold Ballard? Is that the level you have to stoop to in order to criticize a rebuilding phase? Contrary to your opinion, the Leafs have been anti-rebuilding for about 40 years now. This is truly the first time that they've stripped the team down on purpose with the intention on starting over. There's been no quick-fix and there won't be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 There's only one puck out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 Lol Harold Ballard. Haven't heard that name in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel1 32 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 There are three great kids (and then some) at the top of next year's draft. Tavares. Victor Hedman. Magnus Svensson Pääjärvi. Any one of those three would help out the Leafs quite a bit. Dale McCourt, Joe Murphy, Brian Lawton, Alexandre Daigle, and Patrick Stefan.... all "great" kids taken at the top of the draft that never lived up to expectations. There are no sure things in the world of nhl drafting. If Toronto rushes the prospect or fails to provide adequate support for him then having those high draft picks may not mean all that much. Kinda reminds me about a story involving some chickens and how you shouldn't count them before they hatch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 Dale McCourt, Joe Murphy, Brian Lawton, Alexandre Daigle, and Patrick Stefan.... all "great" kids taken at the top of the draft that never lived up to expectations. There are no sure things in the world of nhl drafting. If Toronto rushes the prospect or fails to provide adequate support for him then having those high draft picks may not mean all that much. Kinda reminds me about a story involving some chickens and how you shouldn't count them before they hatch Of course there's no guarantees, but you stand a lot better chance of landing a prize chicken at 1st or 2nd overall compared to 15th or 20th overall. There's been a hell of a lot more 1st overall picks that have worked out compared to the ones that haven't, especially in recent years when scouting has become a lot more comprehensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) Of course there's no guarantees, but you stand a lot better chance of landing a prize chicken at 1st or 2nd overal compared to 15th or 20th overall. Quiet! Holland might hear you! Edited October 21, 2008 by Echolalia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 Of course there's no guarantees, but you stand a lot better chance of landing a prize chicken at 1st or 2nd overall compared to 15th or 20th overall. There's been a hell of a lot more 1st overall picks that have worked out compared to the ones that haven't, especially in recent years when scouting has become a lot more comprehensive. Agreed. Proof is in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 Of course there's no guarantees, but you stand a lot better chance of landing a prize chicken at 1st or 2nd overall compared to 15th or 20th overall. There's been a hell of a lot more 1st overall picks that have worked out compared to the ones that haven't, especially in recent years when scouting has become a lot more comprehensive. Not to mention theres so much more than just picking a player and having him be a superstar. He has to be in the right system,at the right time in his development to play an the NHL and in the right mindset. I can almost guarantee that if Zetterberg and Datsyuk were thrown into the NHL at 19 or 20 they would have failed and we would have never heard from them again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 I find it always brightens my day to take some time and appreciate when another team is failing miserably. Tampa Bay, with all their offensive acquisitions and moves in the off-season, as well as bringing in our old friend Barry Melrose, is off to a blistering start: Currently winless with an 0-3-2 record and averaging all of 1.60 goals per game (dead last in the NHL). Ha! Ha! egroen, Thank you for bringing this to my attention. With a colicky baby, I have had little time to browse the site. I even find myself NOT knowing who is playing on a daily basis - these things I am not used to. This thread has really made my day!!! Suck it, Melrose! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted October 21, 2008 Have to agree, enjoy your fail Melrose...Roberts can eat it too while he's down there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 22, 2008 Have to agree, enjoy your fail Melrose...Roberts can eat it too while he's down there. Don't forget Malone and Hall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j.hoop 64 Report post Posted October 22, 2008 (edited) in regards to the person who said "classy", they just gave up a two goal lead in the last period, they deserve to suck. a question: do you think lecavlier would have left already had he not won a cup for tampa?? edit: alright! lecavlier puts the game away in OT, anything to one up the flyers ! Edited October 22, 2008 by j.hoop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
