Weight's big hit on Sutter

[henrik40 76]

Dude got WRECKED. He'll never skate with his head down again.

[Vincanni 1]

Terrible position to take a hit in for Sutter, but brutal hit with nothing illegal about it at all.

[Echolalia 2,961]

The way that Sutter reached into that hit makes me think he already had head damage...

[Louisville 112]

I guess you could say Sutter couldn't handle all the Weight

[CrossoverThrash 0]

Anybody remember the hit he had on Chereponov, now that was a freaking dirty hit, he charged all the way down the ice and leaped with an elbow at Chereponov. He's come full circle now.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Sutter's a tough kid, he'll be back. Unlike Weight, he likes to hit often, and if he gets a shot at Dougie, then it's lights out time.

[b.shanafan14 733]

I think the hit was good and clean, but it was devastating and to a young player. I understand I'm in a minority, but I think thats a hit you pass on. Lets face it, in the big picture what happened was one highlight for the Islanders this year at the price of an old player injuring a young player. It could be nothing, or it could be a hiccup or worse in a young players career. I think as clean as the hit is, its ugly.

Taking hits like this out of the game doesn't "pussify" it as much as many on these boards seem to think. Would hockey not be hockey if I hadn't seen a team sans upside like the Islanders and a player sans future like Weight destroy some young kid? I understand he had his head down and blah blah blah.

You can have clean, monstrous hits without the kind of contact we saw on that on. (see Kronwall's hits from last years playoffs, Phaneuf's hit on Hudler, Cleary's hit on Phaneuf, or the two huge hits from the Bruins-Leafs game the other day)

[CopenhagenWing 38]

I think the hit was good and clean, but it was devastating and to a young player. I understand I'm in a minority, but I think thats a hit you pass on.

Weight wouldn't have had time to adjust even if he'd wanted to. He is well into initiating the hit when Sutter lowers his upper body reaching for the puck.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

If you watch it realtime, I don't see how Weight could possibly be expected to let up. When he lined Sutter up, Sutter was skating upright and even with his head up (on the replay it looks as if he glances right in Weight's direction) but must not have thought Weight was coming for him, because at the last second Sutter leans down and reaches for the puck.

I agree it's no fun to see a young guy go down like that. Weight didn't look particularly happy about it himself. But there's no way he had time to see the kid leaning out and react in time to let up.

I agree the hit was clean and personally, I don't want these hits taken out of the game. You skate with your head down you're going to get pwned. Lesson learned.

However, I disagree with those who say Weight couldn't have done anything to lessen the blow.

There are very, very few instances where a player absolutely cannot avoid finishing his check.

This was not one of them. Based on personal experience this is my opinion.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

A bit high of a hit, but nowhere near "dirty" or "cheap". I feel bad for the 'Cane that got decked but you need to keep your head up.

To be fair though, the only reason it looked high is because his head was at waist level.

QFT

Not only was the player skating with his body down he seems to drop even lower right before the hit was delivered. If anything, Sutter needs to learn from this. Welcome to the NHL.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I agree the hit was clean and personally, I don't want these hits taken out of the game. You skate with your head down you're going to get pwned. Lesson learned.

However, I disagree with those who say Weight couldn't have done anything to lessen the blow.

There are very, very few instances where a player absolutely cannot avoid finishing his check.

This was not one of them. Based on personal experience this is my opinion.

If it was a clean hit, why should he have to?

TBH, I completely disagree with lessening any *clean* hit in the sport. That's hockey.

[GoalieManPat 1,007]

I'd have to disagree with all of you here. Not on the issue that its a clean hit, because it definitely is by today's rules - but I take issue with it because Weight could have totally let up and it was a complete hit to the head. You make hits to take guys out of the play or not them off the puck, not to kill them.

Its never fun seeing a young guy with a really promising career go down like that. For all we know, he could have some serious concussion problems.

If this was Johan Franzen (like a couple seasons ago) you would all be crying foul.

I highly disagree. If Weight lets up and the kid scootz by him because of it then Weight has let his whole team down because the kid makes a rookie mistake and put his head down. Its Weights job to make that hit and stop the breakaway cleanly and he did.

[Guest nutz2u]

Kinda reminds me of ex-Flyers GM Clarke whining how hip-checks should be taken outta the game after his pride & joy aka Eric Lindros suffered a knee injury while attempting to avoid a hip-check from Igor Ulanov by jumping/leaping over Ulanov's hips

Clarke is a joke. I've always hated the f***in weasel because I was ashamed for the U.S. team when he 2 handed that Russian player and broke his ankle. Where is the sportsmanship in that? f***in disgusting.

[CrossoverThrash 0]

Weight wasn't even looking at Sutter, at the point he was sutter had his head up and presumably would step around him, if Weight dosen't attmpt this hit Sutter is clear on a breakaway in the O zone.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I agree the hit was clean and personally, I don't want these hits taken out of the game. You skate with your head down you're going to get pwned. Lesson learned.

However, I disagree with those who say Weight couldn't have done anything to lessen the blow.

There are very, very few instances where a player absolutely cannot avoid finishing his check.

This was not one of them. Based on personal experience this is my opinion.

That's ok. It's your prerogative to be wrong if you want to.

I agree that there's a lot of times you can let up on a check. My point is more about how Sutter reaches out right before he's getting hit. Weight could've let up, but it just would've been for the hell of it, because he didn't have time to recognize Sutter putting himself in an awkward decision and try and let up before impact.

Sutter reaches out maybe a half second before Weight hits him, at most.

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

like i have said before...what people do you want us to get out there with pillows and have a big pillow fight? get over it. it was a clean hit and from the video there was really no way for him to let up at the time. the kid had his head down. If they make this type of hit illegal you will have all the divers (crybaby) skating with their head down the whole game. its hockey for christ sake. if you don't like the big hits and want evryone that lays one get fined and suspended pick a sport like football.seems like they are doing that now. clean hit. doug is no where near a dirty player. why didn't we have all this when kronner hits people? or when konstantinov whould hip check someon into the end of next week. yeah..clean GREAT hit. sorry for the kid getting hurt but its hockey. like someone said thats novice leason # 1. :keep head up..leason #2: keep head up

Edited October 27, 2008 by hillbillywingsfan

[AtomicPunk 296]

Nothing wrong with that hit other than the guy got hurt. If he would have gotten right up, it's part of the game and nice hit by Weight.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

That's ok. It's your prerogative to be wrong if you want to.

I agree that there's a lot of times you can let up on a check. My point is more about how Sutter reaches out right before he's getting hit. Weight could've let up, but it just would've been for the hell of it, because he didn't have time to recognize Sutter putting himself in an awkward decision and try and let up before impact.

Sutter reaches out maybe a half second before Weight hits him, at most.

Me wrong? Harold you know better than that. I'm never wrong, it just looks that way to those who are trying to catch up.

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

Me wrong? Harold you know better than that. I'm never wrong, it just looks that way to those who are trying to catch up.

i got your back GST my friend. hahaha

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

i got your back GST my friend. hahaha

For the record, I was saying it was a clean hit and don't fault Weight at all.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

On Weight

I wouldn't call him dirty in the Dale Hunter sense of the term. But honestly, Weight has always annoyed me, which is hard to do as he's a good old American boy. But when he played in St.Louis he always would get in an extra shot or take a jab at somebody. He was always face washing people and hacking guys but would never drop the gloves. He'd just pick his spots. Sort of like Andy MacDonald. Anyway, it always used to piss me off. Yeah, he's not a dirty player. But he ain't no Byng candidate either.

I remember a not so nice move on Bryan Marchment. Yes, Marchment was a dirty player and Weight was retaliating. But it doesn't make it right the way Weight blindsided him in the face and went about his retribution. Man up and drop the gloves, do it the right way. I can't find a video but it's pretty vicious. With Weight basically cross checking Mush in the face when he didn't expect it and then after Mush is laying on the ice Weight starts teeing off on his head. Marchment ended up being okay but if somebody did that today, they'd be looking at 25-50 game suspension. Weight ended up, fittingly, with 39 penalty minutes on that play alone.

Edited October 27, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

For the record, I was saying it was a clean hit and don't fault Weight at all.

harold im your friend to=) haha

[12Newf 0]

brent sutter's thoughts on the hit. http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/10...-improving.html

[Dominator2005 558]

CLEAN HIT!

Thanks to hillbillywingsfan - Konstantinov on Haverchuk is the best hit!!!

[CrossoverThrash 0]

brent sutter's thoughts on the hit. http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/10...-improving.html

At least Sutter knew his kid made a dumb move but i still don't know why people are still blaming Weight.