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10/30 GDT: Red Wings 2 @ Sharks 4

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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! Please, please PLEASE can we get rid of either Sammy, McCarty, Kopy and Lebda.... I'm so sick of seeing them.

Do McCarty and Kopy even have a f'n point thus far?

I much rather would see Helm, Ericcsson and Leino. Put all 3 of them on Waivers and pray they get picked up. Than hopefully we can resign Hossa for next year (I'm still telling you he'll retire as a Wing!)

As much as you like to follow everyone else on this site in their hatred for Sammy but he would be scooped up off waiver in about 2 seconds...he's cheap, good defensively and on most teams in this league would get 20-25 goals.

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It has honestly come to the point where Im hoping for a career ending injury to happen to Mccarty or Maltby, or preferably both. Just look at their face after there shift, its clear that they know they dont have it anymore. The second adn third goals were both agaisnt that line, and either time it looked like a 5-3 powerplay.

That's one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. Brutal !! I agree they dont have it anymore but cmon man have some respect.

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We're going to be saying that a lot this year.

No were not... to put things in persepctive were facing a top team, are third game in 4 days, both of the 2 previous games were physical, were missing our top player, and if we had Helm and Leino in as we will in the playoffs due to no salary concern, we would very easily be winning this game, as the last 2 goals were entirely the GRIND lines fault

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Damn you. I have clinical from 7am to 3:30pm. That is one long day. And then I have to manage to stay up, because Michigan has a hockey game tomorrow.

My friend goes to U of M. He has season tickets for the hockey team. I assume you do as well?

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Thats actually a good point. At what stage do you finally say "enough is enough with the loyalty advantage" and start playing your best players regardless of age and experience? You'd have to imagine that issue is going to come up if the Wings don't get back on track. Its easy to let the guys play when you're cruising through the season, but this team needs a shakeup.

I 100% agree with this sentiment. McCarty & Maltby, give me a break. I want Helm and Leino. I'm also having a real hard time understanding why Lilja and Lebda are in this lineup and Kyle Quincey isnt. I mean s*** we RE-SIGNED Lilja and we let Quincey go?

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Yeah I do. I'm sure it will be even more amusing this year. We play State this weekend. Should be a blow out.

Michigan State did lose to some no name team from the east coast, so you never know. Do me a favor and tell your boys to come out of there with a win. We play OSU this weekend...our team is so hot and cold we could win or we could get killed.

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Second period thoughts:

- I mean, have we just abdandoned playing defense? Terrible net front coverage is directly to blame for all three San Jose goals. It's a mystery to me, especially with guys like Brian Rafalski just leaving guys wide open. He looked especially silly on the Sharks first goal.

- Speaking of defensemen, Brad Stuart has been our best by far. He's been very consistent, he's always in position and he hasn't been afraid to get physical. When other guys are looking sub-par, he's really stepped it up. So much of what he does goes unnoticed, very similar to Lidstrom, but his impact can't be denied.

- Where is this team right now without Marian Hossa? He's largely the reason our record looks so good despite not playing very well. He started out very shaky, but he's been unbelievable since he scored his first goal. He's going to need to keep it up, especially in the absence of Franzen.

- For as much criticism as his line has accumulated, Kris Draper has been incredibly feisty in these last couple of games. He's adapted his style of play a bit, and while he does often look old and lethargic, I still think he brings a much-needed dynamic to the team.

- Would it be illegal to just have Andreas Lilja stand in front of the net all game and act as a second goalie? I swear he blocks more shots in the crease than any player in history. He's more useful that way. Literally just have him stand next to the goalie all game.

- The game is much more fun to watch when there isn't a penalty being called every two minutes. Thank you, officials. However, I think we're going to need a couple of power plays if we want to get back in this one. Our even-strength play isn't cutting it. I can't remember the last time we were out-shot like this. However, with the way things have been going this season, the Wings will probably win this game 6-5 in a shoot-out.

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I 100% agree with this sentiment. McCarty & Maltby, give me a break. I want Helm and Leino. I'm also having a real hard time understanding why Lilja and Lebda are in this lineup and Kyle Quincey isnt. I mean s*** we RE-SIGNED Lilja and we let Quincey go?

Thank you! We tried benching Maltby to light a fire under his ass--and he still is useless out there. McCarty, I love the guy and his story, but this is ridiculous. If Helm/Leino were up here we'd be able to actually play our 4th line.

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That's one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. Brutal !!

Do you even know what ignorant means? It means, your uninformed on a topic. Seeing as it was my hope, how could that be ignorant? Seriously its my opinion, and its right, based off purely logical observation. Just because its a bit harsh dosent mean its ignorant. Go home

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I just got on here but I have been watching the whole game.. And I believe in almost every game I have watched this season, which has been most of them, Sammy has taken ridiculous penalties at completely horrible times.. But I guess I should be happy we havent taken 7 penalties.. yet...

Also.. That Lilja giveaway gave me a chill as I flashed back to the Anaheim series 2 years ago..

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As much as you like to follow everyone else on this site in their hatred for Sammy but he would be scooped up off waiver in about 2 seconds...he's cheap, good defensively and on most teams in this league would get 20-25 goals.

You might wanna read through some of my posts on this board before saying that I'm "following everyone". I probably am one of the smarter hockey people around you'll ever meet considering I've played it for almost 20 years at a very competitive level. Now, considering before now I have NEVER said one bad word about Sammy, my point was that getting rid of his contract would help in resigning Hossa next year. Maybe I shouldn't have added him to my list.

I do stick by everyone else. Kopy, McCarty, Lebda. I'd have zero problem seeing all 3 of them go to bring up Helm, Leino & Ericcsson

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My friend goes to U of M. He has season tickets for the hockey team. I assume you do as well?

Oh yeah. Have for 3+ years. They are the most fun games. Swearing. Insults. So much more different than Wings games, although I love those too.

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Michigan State did lose to some no name team from the east coast, so you never know. Do me a favor and tell your boys to come out of there with a win. We play OSU this weekend...our team is so hot and cold we could win or we could get killed.

Please beat state. That would make me really happy :)

State is still ranked 12th I believe. WMU always manages to pull one upset out at home every year, so we'll see.

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Our defense is terrible and our offense can't get through the neutral zone. How many give aways have we got this year already? Is it as much as all last season yet, cause it sure seems that way. And did the Lilja family kidnap Lidstrom and replace him with Andreas' twin brother? Seriously, I'm gonna go on record saying the Nick has sucked this year, along with the rest of the defense. Hossa and Pav are both trying to be too cute tonite.

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Oh yeah. Have for 3+ years. They are the most fun games. Swearing. Insults. So much more different than Wings games, although I love those too.

Haha yeah, he told me about the chant for when the other team gets a penalty.

We've got some good ones too. I'd say we are one of the better student sections in the CCHA.

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Do you even know what ignorant means? It means, your uninformed on a topic. Seeing as it was my hope, how could that be ignorant? Seriously its my opinion, and its right, based off purely logical observation. Just because its a bit harsh dosent mean its ignorant. Go home

Wishing a career ending injury on anyone is pig headed? assinine? stupid? f***in lame? would you like me to use any other words to describe you?

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