unkempt 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 what about emery....... He is a pest. If he grows up, he might become an awsome goalie, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hckypete96 3 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 i heard reports from russia that said he has really matured in russia and is playing great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Only in America can two people disagree with each other. :patriot: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinner 6 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Keep Huds...he's very entertaining at parades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Like I said i love Hudler... just dont wanna see us lose him for nothing... As you mentioned in another post, he's an RFA ... unless I'm mistaken, doesn't that mean we would get compensation if another team takes him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 As you mentioned in another post, he's an RFA ... unless I'm mistaken, doesn't that mean we would get compensation if another team takes him? Yes. It does. Hence the retardness of this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) Keep Huds...he's very entertaining at parades. and in the shoot out,with his foot kick,head flinch deak and score move he does.lol VETS GO VRED VWINGS!!! Edited December 14, 2008 by maltbymaniac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinner 6 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 and in the shoot out,with his foot kick,head flinch deak and score move he does.lol VETS GO VRED VWINGS!!! Agreed!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 I know huds has been great and all... and I like him a lot... but I think the smartest thing to do would be to trade him now. He ridic. hot and his value will never be higher than it is right now. We aren't going to have the money to re-sign him next year... and Babs doesnt like him. He won't even play him on top 2 lines besides like 5 games at the beginning of the year. I say trade him now... for a goalie. Maybe something like Huds+Cleary for Vokoun. I know he's struggling but he's still a top 10 goalie IMO and anderson is playing great. Maybe even Huds for Roloson? Fernandez? What do u guys think? Like I said i love Hudler... just dont wanna see us lose him for nothing... ecspecially when our D/goaltending is struggling. edit: wasn't aware of how much Vokoun made... i guess we'd have to throw flip in there too..... im glad fans don't make the decisions...idiots! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 you people are a bunch of f*cking drama queens who need trades to make your lives complete. Go watch wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 The ONLY reason that even makes me think a Hudler trade is possible is that Babcock doesn't seem to like him. Other than that, who are you going to get in his place that is going to be any more reliable? Hudler is showing he's coming into his own and is putting up ridiculous stats for himself. He's finally developed and is showing what he's worth, and we need to keep him. The only players we should even think about letting go at the end of this season or deadline are: Kopecky Lebda Sammy (but only for a good defensive forward, because he's had a much better season than usual and I don't dislike him so much) Filpulla And none of those, except for maybe Filpulla, would get us anything of value, unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) Ok, hear me out before you all say no, buttt Hossa, Z, Dats, Franzen and Ozzy for Roberto Luongo, I know you will all say 'but shaman he is t3h injured lol' but with him on the wing's IR they will have space to bring up all those great AHL players everyone loves. So its win win win. Edited December 14, 2008 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) how can u say hudler wont deman much money? he's RFA and is currently 4th on the team in points. he only makes 1mil right now... why wouldnt he ask for 3ish? He could easily get higher than that on the open market with the outrageous contracts teams throw at halfway decent players nowadays... So he's 4th on the team in points, but somehow isn't valuable to the team?? And he's an RFA, so we're not talking about the open market. Best a team could do is make an offer sheet. If the Wings didn't match, they'd be compensated with picks. how isnt it? 4th on the team in scoring... vokoun is struggling and isnt even starting right now.... seems like a win win if we could free up the cap space. Again, so the guy who's 4th on the team in scoring somehow isn't valuable, so we should trade him for a goalie who's struggling and has a cap hit of $5.7 mill, to replace our goalie who is struggling and has a cap hit of 1.4 mill? So Hudler and Ozzy (who I guess we'd have to waive or something) totals $2.5 million. where's the other $3.2 mill in cap space going to come from? Do you not see some serious problems with your logic here? Unless you were joking and I missed your sarcasm, because of threads like this one. Edited December 14, 2008 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Hossa, Z, Dats, Franzen and Ozzy for Roberto Luongo, I know you will all say 'but shaman he is t3h injured lol' but with him on the wing's IR they will have space to bring up all those great AHL players everyone loves. So its win win win. We wouldn't need to do all of them, Hossa and Ozzy would cover it, and through Franzen in there to sweeten the deal, that way we still have Dats and Z Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 I think you could perhaps move him but not for a goalie better than osgood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 what about emery....... And the thread reaches a new low point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 I don't get it - Vokoun is making 5-6 million over the next 4 years. How does that clear up cap space? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robat 13 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Mindfly? Is that you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 I disagree. Huds trade value is far less then his actual value to the team. I am not sure wether or not Babs dislikes him and i think that does not hold enough water. Hudler is a great player and will never demand much money. I say that Hudler is worth keeping almost souly on his value in the locker room. Bottom line is if you wish to get a good goalie with Hudler it won't happen. Noone will trade someone that can contribute to this team like he does. Trade value > Team Value I am not saying your stupid or anything but your logic rivals a crazy persons! LOL I agree, but following your agrument, shouldn't your ">" be a "<"? esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
detroitdan 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 As someone said, it's a good thing fans don't make the trades. At least with some trade proposals on this site there is a modicum of logic involved. There is nothing of the sort here. While we may lose Huddles in the offseason, trading him now would be a poor move. And anyone who brings up trading Cleary forgets that fact that he has a no trade clause until 2012. He isn't going anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitBoy313 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Hank and Pav for Vokoun would be a much better trade. WOW! I was thinking the exact same thing!! I mean Vokoun would be the reason why we never won in the past and he would be the missing piece we were looking for all these years!! LOOK!! I am pissed off just as any Wings fan about our GAA and our struggling defense this year.But this is a "team" problem.You don't think other teams would love to have "our problem" right now? The defending Stanley Cup champs and we are sitting 20-5-4 right now.The defense needs to shape up as does our goal tending but this is the "HANGOVER" everyone was talking about.Having a bullseye on your back all year and being ready to play a full 60 minutes of hockey EVERY night.I think we're going to be fine honestly.If we can't win with the roster we have,which is probably the BEST in the league than we just weren't meant to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 I know huds has been great and all... and I like him a lot... but I think the smartest thing to do would be to trade him now. He ridic. hot and his value will never be higher than it is right now. We aren't going to have the money to re-sign him next year... and Babs doesnt like him. He won't even play him on top 2 lines besides like 5 games at the beginning of the year. I say trade him now... for a goalie. Maybe something like Huds+Cleary for Vokoun. I know he's struggling but he's still a top 10 goalie IMO and anderson is playing great. Maybe even Huds for Roloson? Fernandez? What do u guys think? Like I said i love Hudler... just dont wanna see us lose him for nothing... ecspecially when our D/goaltending is struggling. edit: wasn't aware of how much Vokoun made... i guess we'd have to throw flip in there too..... That's some strange logic there. We can't keep him next year so lets get rid of him now so we lose him for the remaining 2/3's of this year also. There isn't an top 10 goalie in the league that makes what Rex is making. Not sure why you want Voukoun. His save percentage is 18th in the league. Granted that's better than Ozzie's but Hudler and Flip for Voukoun, ah, no thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 And the thread reaches a new low point No. Turco would be the low point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Ok, hear me out before you all say no, buttt Hossa, Z, Dats, Franzen and Ozzy for Roberto Luongo, I know you will all say 'but shaman he is t3h injured lol' but with him on the wing's IR they will have space to bring up all those great AHL players everyone loves. So its win win win. And I didn't think that it could get even more ridiculous..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwing_sparty 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 We wouldn't need to do all of them, Hossa and Ozzy would cover it, and through Franzen in there to sweeten the deal, that way we still have Dats and Z you have one of the coolest signatures ever. that is sweeet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites