MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 I don't think its just the all-star game... never before in my life have i ever seen so many players getting injured day in and day out... Players are bigger, equipment is manufactured better... it isn't all-star game causing the mass injuries... its coincidence and evolution... Unfortunately, equipment seems to be manufactured and designed towards performance instead of protection these days. All the high-ankle sprains from the skates are proof of that. The boots used to allow for ankle flex to take those kinds of spills into the boards, but they don't anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blueliner 69 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Babcock needs to stick up for his players and not go. I hope the Wings win the cup this year on home ice so I can hear the crowd chant, "f*** you, Bettman." Then when Lidstrom comes to get the cup. He totally ignores Bettman, refuses to shake his hand, and skate off with the cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) The NHL GM's agreed last year that players wouldn't be able to skip the entire weekend unless they were too injured to travel/take part in sponsor events. Having a hipflexor injury putting you out of last period or so of your last game doesn't sound like joys of joys flying in a plane to god aweful BFE canada... and then having to sit (or stand) around for the press to take pictures of you.... Edited January 23, 2009 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Because it was getting out of hand. It was never this bad for players getting "hurt" right before the All-Star Game. Whether it's a change in attitude from the players or what, I'm not sure. Didn't you just say players have always hated it and tried to get out of it? Or could it possibly be the All Star game has become more and more of a joke, especially now where ballot stuffing is easier than ever? Whether they are hurt or not... and god forbid you actually believe a captain of a team who has been there around ten times already as well as a perennial Lady Byng winner, along with their doctors, when they say they are injured... this is not an action that is worthy of a suspension. Edited January 23, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) I need to see a Babcockian "get a-load of this bulls*** call" smile when asked about the suspension of Niklas "Norris" Lidstrom and 3 time Lady Byng winner Pavel Datsyuk over AN ALL-STAR GAME! No s***! How Babs fields that question (which you KNOW will be asked quite a few times) is reason enough for me to watch now. Bettman is brilliant! esteef Edited January 23, 2009 by esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Having a hipflexor injury putting you out of last period or so of your last game doesn't sound like joys of joys flying in a plane to god aweful BFE canada... and then having to sit (or stand) around for the press to take pictures of you.... So then shouldn't Datsyuk be too injured to play on Tuesday? Hip Flexors take weeks to heal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) So then shouldn't Datsyuk be too injured to play on Tuesday? Hip Flexors take weeks to heal. I would be more wiling to push myself (and chance further injury by doing so) for a real game than a fake one... the all-star game means NOTHING!!!!!!!!! We need POINTS to catch the guppies... how many do we get for a win in the All-star game... refreash my memory Edited January 23, 2009 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 So then shouldn't Datsyuk be too injured to play on Tuesday? Hip Flexors take weeks to heal. Are you trying to compare playing injured in a regular season game to a F-ing exhibition ASG?? Really the two are similar to you? Hmm playing injured to help your team secure home ice throughout the playoffs (which proved to be helpful last season) is the same as playing injured or having ride in a plane for a exhibition game and some handshakes, really? Hmm interesting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 So then shouldn't Datsyuk be too injured to play on Tuesday? Hip Flexors take weeks to heal. Only Datsyuk and the team doctors know that for sure... Shouldn't the decision to not play in a game be HIS and not Chairman Mao-Bettman's. Thanks for the injury status Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 I would be more wiling to push myself (and chance further injury by doing so) for a real game than a fake one... the all-star game means NOTHING!!!!!!!!! We need POINTS to catch the guppies... how many do we get for a win in the All-star game... refreash my memory Again, he's not being asked to play. He's being asked to go to corporate schmozz events and sign a few autographs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Honestly, they ought to have sacked up and flown out to Montreal to chill for the weekend. But imposing a rule that makes ducking out on a exhibition game carry penalties against games during the season was a bad idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Again, he's not being asked to play. He's being asked to go to corporate schmozz events and sign a few autographs. and i ask.. big effing deal... the NHL isn't going to collapse because his (added on after the fact) ass isn't going to be there grimacing in pain, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 So then shouldn't Datsyuk be too injured to play on Tuesday? Hip Flexors take weeks to heal. The point isn't that Pavel is going to be better rested Tuesday than Sunday, its the fact that he is either going to be home resting it and treating his injury proactively or he is going to be spending that time traveling, not resting it, and taking a risk that there is absolutely no reason to take. Players have always bowed out with nagging injuries, plenty less serious than Pavel's. Rest a week, play Tuesday =/= travel, deal with ASG BS, more travel, play Tuesday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Again, he's not being asked to play. He's being asked to go to corporate schmozz events and sign a few autographs. I have injured my hip flexor and you know what, standing is a pain in your ass, well hip actually, sitting is a pain in your ass, the only thing that doesn't aggravate it is laying down!! Riding in a plane is not going to help, standing around for hours on end is not going to help. Why not say everyone voted (fans or players) has to go to the meet and greets. It is the same if they were injured yesterday or 6 months ago. Show up and shake hands with your broken ankle, dislocated shoulder, whatever your ailment be there, just to shake hands though not play. F*&K the ASG, just have a mites tourney instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDavis35 140 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Okay, a question then ... if the rule is that they have to miss either the game before or after the ASG if they don't play, I don't see how they can be suspended yet, because technically they won't break the rule unless they actually play in the Columbus game. If they sit out, as the rule says they have to, then they would be scratches, not suspensions ... right? my thoughts exactly. Why do they have to call it a suspension and ruin solid players' records? On the note of participating in the sponsored events (aka media hype): its stupid. Leave it to your "Franchise" players; crosby, stamkos, toews. They'll at least be in the game! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 and i ask.. big effing deal... the NHL isn't going to collapse because his (added on after the fact) ass isn't going to be there grimacing in pain, is it? No, but the NHL clearly drew a line saying that enough was enough. There was 11 months to let the players know that they had to go to the off-ice events, even if they have a minor injury and can't play. If they didn't get the message, then the onus falls on the GM who was part of the meeting that created this rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 On the note of participating in the sponsored events (aka media hype): its stupid. Leave it to your "Franchise" players; crosby, stamkos, toews. They'll at least be in the game! It's not like any of them are going to understand a word Pavel would say anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Penalize a player a regular season game, for missing an exhibition game fluff session. Makes perfect cent$ to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nemonemo15 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 if all it means is they have to show up for publicity reasons than by all means they should attend to do so unless their injury keeps them from traveling there to represent the best team in hockey... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Again, he's not being asked to play. He's being asked to go to corporate schmozz events and sign a few autographs. But the thing is Listrom has tendonitis in his elbow. We don't know how severe. Only he knows that. But if a player has tendonitis in his elbow, asking him to sign autographs is going to make it worse. Datsyuk has a hip problem. Asking him to walk around and be on his feet all weekend to make Bettman happy is also unfair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 There was 11 months to let the players know that they had to go to the off-ice events, even if they have a minor injury and can't play. If they didn't get the message, then the onus falls on the GM who was part of the meeting that created this rule. I agree with you here. Personally I think this rule is horses***, but if the GMs agreed to it then there's not much of a leg to stand on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) No, but the NHL clearly drew a line saying that enough was enough. There was 11 months to let the players know that they had to go to the off-ice events, even if they have a minor injury and can't play. If they didn't get the message, then the onus falls on the GM who was part of the meeting that created this rule. Can i ask why you even care if is he is there... Do you have ticket or something... or a member of the press that would get to shake his hands? Newsflash to all involved... there are more fans here in Metro detroit that wouldnt mind getting to meet pavs this weekend then everyone combined in hab land... maybe betty could have put dats and lids under state arrest or something.... let him do commmunity service to a community that actually wanted him to be there? Edited January 23, 2009 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 Penalize a player a regular season game, for missing an exhibition game fluff session. Makes perfect cent$ to me Agreed, that part's ridiculous. If you want to penalize them, fine them. Fine their team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 It's not like any of them are going to understand a word Pavel would say anyway This furthers my stance that the only reason any suspensions were handed out is because Crosby is already going. If Crosby wasn't going, the NHL would never suspend him. Its setting an example with two class acts to make sure next year players don't get injured around the all-star game. There is no point in Lidstrom and Datsyuk going to the ASG to rub elbows with the media because the media doesn't want to rub elbows with them. Datsyuk has been in the top 5 players in the league for a few years now, but how often does anyone try to talk about him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted January 23, 2009 There was 11 months to let the players know that they had to go to the off-ice events, even if they have a minor injury and can't play. If they didn't get the message, then the onus falls on the GM who was part of the meeting that created this rule. Then how did the NHL's poster boy not even know about this until today (and rushed to Montreal to be at Bettman's side)? I highly doubt Shero would be that careless with Crosby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
