toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Anyone noticing this guy lately? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted February 8, 2009 He's the best offensive defenseman in the league imo, his shot is very similar to lidström's.. i wanna see him in a wings uniform when lids retire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 In the parallel universe where we didn't trade away our pick that got this guy for Lang, there's no guarantee we would have drafted him anyways. Gaudy numbers, but I wonder if he can actually play D? It doesn't matter much now, but in the playoffs he'll get killed being a fourth forward. You'll have to tell me, I've seen one Caps game this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 I certainly notice the fantasy stats he puts up for me. Having Lidstrom, Rafalski and Green on D certainly gives me a big advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 He's this generation's Paul Coffey. Great offensive defenseman. Sucks balls in his own zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 In the parallel universe where we didn't trade away our pick that got this guy for Lang, there's no guarantee we would have drafted him anyways. Gaudy numbers, but I wonder if he can actually play D? It doesn't matter much now, but in the playoffs he'll get killed being a fourth forward. You'll have to tell me, I've seen one Caps game this year. No. He's everything you think of when a defenseman gets described as a 4th forward. When he and Fedorov are out on the point of a PP, Sergei is the stabilizing defensive presence. He has ridiculous offensive skills that many forwards would love to have, but he's a roving scorer. Lining up as a defenseman allows many of his chances because most teams don't expect the D to activate as much as he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 No. He's everything you think of when a defenseman gets described as a 4th forward. When he and Fedorov are out on the point of a PP, Sergei is the stabilizing defensive presence. He has ridiculous offensive skills that many forwards would love to have, but he's a roving scorer. Lining up as a defenseman allows many of his chances because most teams don't expect the D to activate as much as he does. He's getting better and better defensively though and I wouldn't write that part of his game off just yet as he's still extremely young, especially for a d-man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 He's scoring more during his shifts, which helps the overall +/-, but he really isn't becoming more defensively responsible. And right now it's working for him, so there is no incentive to become more responsible in his own end. He'll probably figure it out some day, but as of right now he is what he is. An offensive dynamo lining up as a defenseman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 He's getting better and better defensively though and I wouldn't write that part of his game off just yet as he's still extremely young, especially for a d-man. Are you kidding? This is the same sort of drivel we here when we're told Crosby, Malkin et al are getting better defensively. It's simply ridiculous. Becoming slightly better than horrible isn't impressive- it's expected. Green is a fantastic offensive defenseman but he's absolutely brutal in his own zone. That's me watching his play in the 08-09 season, not last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) I'm actually really impressed with Schenn. He looks like a veteran d-man out there and he's a rookie. He stands up really well against veteran forwards, which is very impressive for a rookie defenseman. And he's got good offensive instincts. That pinch today was a great read. He would look even better on a team that wasn't stocked with AHL quality players. It's damn impressive when you can step onto a team as a rookie d-man and be their best defensive player, even if they are the Leafs. Edited February 8, 2009 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagYourTorso 8 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 I have a huge man crush on Green. And I truly wish he could be a wing one day. It might have something to do with him being on my fantasy team. But either way. 46 pts in 41 games...19 of which being goals, is very impressive by a defenseman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 I'd say he's decent 4th forward. I wouldn't call him a defenseman though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Should we change his name to Sandis Ozolinsh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 If he's so bad defensively, why is he almost +20? I'm not saying you're lying and I've certainly heard a similar thing on many occasions, but why does he have such an impressive +/-? I guess it's to do with the fact he's always playing when AO is out there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 If he's so bad defensively, why is he almost +20? I'm not saying you're lying and I've certainly heard a similar thing on many occasions, but why does he have such an impressive +/-? I guess it's to do with the fact he's always playing when AO is out there... Sometimes +/- has some really bizarre outcomes. I mean Holmstrom is probably our worst player with regards to defensive ability and he's a +16. And yes, Green has a high + on the basis of offense and offense alone. All that number does is show how many goals go in for you minus how many goals go in against. When you have an outrageous offense, the other team just doesn't get much opportunity to score while you're out there. In and of itself +/- tells you nothing with regards to defensive ability. Context is key. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Sometimes +/- has some really bizarre outcomes. I mean Holmstrom is probably our worst player with regards to defensive ability and he's a +16. And yes, Green has a high + on the basis of offense and offense alone. All that number does is show how many goals go in for you minus how many goals go in against. When you have an outrageous offense, the other team just doesn't get much opportunity to score while you're out there. In and of itself +/- tells you nothing with regards to defensive ability. Context is key. Sadly, many people fail to see this logic, including some people that vote for awards. He's at +21 now I believe, one of the best for dmen, but you are right, that doesn't mean he is great defensively. My point was that he has improved. I think the thought of him being brutal in his own end, etc., etc. is a bit exaggerated, but he does need work. From what I have seen though, he's improving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hallelujahlogic 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 if anyone besides lids or chara is going to get the norris this year, it'll be him. the talent this kid has! he's one of my dream wings, which is made even worse by the fact that he was so. close. sigh..maybe one day.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
