How is it...

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

...that this league which is so fiercely dedicated to small markets, turns and congratulates the penguins for LOSING (in a shootout) to the ISLANDERS!!!!! Seriously???

Talk about spinning things, these guys writing for the nhl homepage must be in modern politics or something. "Getting the point"?? It's the coaches' first night and your already hyping him up over a loss (which amusingly Crosby's missed shot lost it)?? It's the damned ISLANDERS!! The worst team in the league right now (whom... maybe, just perhaps could use a little good publicity?), and it's front page in favor of the penguins?!?!

[Ms_Hockey 0]

Two words: Sidney Crosby.

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

funny, he didn't produce much tonight either.

Edited February 17, 2009 by CaliWingsNut

[Ms_Hockey 0]

funny enough, he's not even really mentioned.

He doesn't need to be. The Pittsburgh Penguins do.

He's the face of the NHL. That team in featured in more NHL commercials than we are, that's for certain. Gary Bettman wants to promote him & his team as much as possible.

Which is why being congratulated on their loss doesn't surprise me one bit.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

funny, he didn't produce much tonight either.

Haha, sorry, looks like I'm too quick.

He hasn't been producing for quite some time. Malkin is considerably better than he is in that department this season.

[Guest MrSandMan]

Because Pens lose with STYLE

[toby91_ca 620]

Why are we so obsessed with what the media has to say about the Pens? Seriously? If it was any other team, who had just fired their coach the day before, that team and that game would be a headline as well.....but no one here would say a word about it because there is nothing in it for them, there is nobody like Crosby that could take a chance at bashing...etc., etc.

It's also now come down to people bashing Crosby because he's not really scoring much...even though he is top 3 in the league? What is wrong with you people? We get it, a lot of people here don't like the guy, but it's really getting annoying to see thread after thread complaining about him and the Pens.....on a Wings board. I know, I know, if I don't like it, don't read it, but it's hard to ignore when the threads are all clogging up the front page.

Oh....here's a good FYI as well, the Pens game was in the afternoon yesterday, so their game finished before any other games even started last night, so for awhile, there was nothing else to write about....did anyone even stop for half a second to give that some thought?

[The Secret 304]

...that this league which is so fiercely dedicated to small markets, turns and congratulates the penguins for LOSING (in a shootout) to the ISLANDERS!!!!! Seriously???

Talk about spinning things, these guys writing for the nhl homepage must be in modern politics or something. "Getting the point"?? It's the coaches' first night and your already hyping him up over a loss (which amusingly Crosby's missed shot lost it)?? It's the damned ISLANDERS!! The worst team in the league right now (whom... maybe, just perhaps could use a little good publicity?), and it's front page in favor of the penguins?!?!

How was that article congratulating the Pens for losing at all? Maybe you should re-read it again and try it with your head outside of your anus. First off, they did get a point with a new coach. Secondly, having your head coach fired like that would shake any team to its core, no one expects that and no one can prepare for that and to have them respond with at least point under those circumstances is better then not at all.... see the Tampa Bay Lighting. It will take time for the coaches idea's to take root in this team. Third, here goes the hate for Crosby for missing a shoot out but you also fail to mention that Malkin missed right before him.... just senseless to take bits and pieces that serve as feul for your hatred and neglect the full view of the situation. We just lost to one of the worst teams in our conference due to s***ty goaltending which is of more concern to the Red Wings then and article about the Pen's and their new coach.

[b.shanafan14 733]

haha good stuff.

[MacK_Attack 108]

Oh....here's a good FYI as well, the Pens game was in the afternoon yesterday, so their game finished before any other games even started last night, so for awhile, there was nothing else to write about....did anyone even stop for half a second to give that some thought?

I think the Penguins/Crosby bashing mechanism some have in the brain acts before anything else can be processed.

[The Secret 304]

I think the Penguins/Crosby bashing mechanism some have in the brain acts before anything else can be processed.

But what they hate him for is sooo stupid. He whines, he's a baby, he's promoted too much, he ruined his team by signing for 8.7 million, he doesn't score a goal a game, he's not a real Captain. Man, he is not even firing on all cyclinder's on a team that is outside of the playoff picture and he is 3 in the league in points and second in assists! He is one of 2 bright spots on a suck-ass team!? Holy Christ, you don't have to even like him to see the obvious.

[Kevvie 0]

As much as most people here like to bash Sindey Crosby and her mom Gary Bettman, the fact is that this youngster is the poster boy for the new NHL. I'm just surprised we don't have hourly updates on Sid's day. They could be writing about what he had for breakfast, what his acne cream is made of, and how his last bowel movement went. Maybe just give it time for that stuff, I don't know. I think the story was more geared towards "Pens new coach makes his debut in disappointing loss" rather than "Hey Penguins, good job at suckin' ass". I noticed that the game finished early and that made it a story before there was anything to write about.

While there are a lot of Crosby threads here, I enjoy a good Penguin bashing session as much as the next guy. I wouldn't consider asking people to stop writing about them, because (1) they are often as entertaining as monkeys in a tree, and (2) people should feel free to post as they see fit in a forum like this one.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Why are we so obsessed with what the media has to say about the Pens? Seriously? If it was any other team, who had just fired their coach the day before, that team and that game would be a headline as well.....but no one here would say a word about it because there is nothing in it for them, there is nobody like Crosby that could take a chance at bashing...etc., etc.

It's also now come down to people bashing Crosby because he's not really scoring much...even though he is top 3 in the league? What is wrong with you people? We get it, a lot of people here don't like the guy, but it's really getting annoying to see thread after thread complaining about him and the Pens.....on a Wings board. I know, I know, if I don't like it, don't read it, but it's hard to ignore when the threads are all clogging up the front page.

Oh....here's a good FYI as well, the Pens game was in the afternoon yesterday, so their game finished before any other games even started last night, so for awhile, there was nothing else to write about....did anyone even stop for half a second to give that some thought?

QFT

It truly seems like a solid amount of Wings fans on this site are suffering from an inferiority complex when it comes to Crosby. Why people continue to bring him up and obsess with the leagues' decision to promote him is beyond me. Who gives a s***? Stop and think for a second.....is what you're complaining about really that important?

Last I checked, the Wings beat Sidney and the Pens last year for the Cup. Why is it that some people not only need that, but for the world to praise the Wings at every chance they get? Besides, plenty of folks in the media have been calling the Wings the best-run organization and the envy of all other teams in professional sports for the past few years. That's good enough for me.

[MacK_Attack 108]

But what they hate him for is sooo stupid. He whines, he's a baby, he's promoted too much, he ruined his team by signing for 8.7 million, he doesn't score a goal a game, he's not a real Captain. Man, he is not even firing on all cyclinder's on a team that is outside of the playoff picture and he is 3 in the league in points and second in assists! He is one of 2 bright spots on a suck-ass team!? Holy Christ, you don't have to even like him to see the obvious.

You're absolutely right. He gets bashed for stuff that all other players do. He's just more visible.

First of all, many players yap and complain as much as Crosby (maybe more), but he's the only one with an iso-cam on him the entire game, regardless of whether he's on the ice or not, so it looks like he does it more than anybody else.

He didn't ruin his team by taking $8.7 million. HE TOOK A DISCOUNT! He's the face of the league, he had to take that kind of coin for the sake of his fellow players. If Crosby takes far less, suddenly it's harder for his fellow star players to get those huge dollars.

I'd like to see the bashers turn down that kind of coin in their early 20s. It's not his fault his GM had the money to fill the holes and could only get Miro Satan and Fedotenko.

Because he's not a natural goal scorer somehow detracts from his ability? The fact that he can hit anybody on the tape with a pass from anywhere on the ice isn't something that perhaps makes up for his unwillingness to shoot?

Look, I'm not a huge Crosby fan. I have huge respect for his talent, but the bashing he gets is so senseless most of the time.

People whined and complained that the NHL didn't use it's players enough to promote the game, so they go and pick a kid who has insane levels of talent and they make him the focal point of the league and then people whine that they promote him too much? Give me a break. He's the face of the league, they have to do things like this. It's not his fault that guys like Malkin and Datsyuk can barely speak English and lose their marketability outside of their team's area.

Remember back 10 years ago or so when the NHL had no generational talent and people were begging for somebody to come along with an aura like Gretzky did. Crosby does exactly that and people bash him for it.

Edited February 17, 2009 by MacK_Attack

[Ms_Hockey 0]

Why are we so obsessed with what the media has to say about the Pens? Seriously? If it was any other team, who had just fired their coach the day before, that team and that game would be a headline as well.....but no one here would say a word about it because there is nothing in it for them, there is nobody like Crosby that could take a chance at bashing...etc., etc.

It's also now come down to people bashing Crosby because he's not really scoring much...even though he is top 3 in the league? What is wrong with you people? We get it, a lot of people here don't like the guy, but it's really getting annoying to see thread after thread complaining about him and the Pens.....on a Wings board. I know, I know, if I don't like it, don't read it, but it's hard to ignore when the threads are all clogging up the front page.

Oh....here's a good FYI as well, the Pens game was in the afternoon yesterday, so their game finished before any other games even started last night, so for awhile, there was nothing else to write about....did anyone even stop for half a second to give that some thought?

I didn't bash him because he wasn't scoring as much. I just stated a fact - he's not producing the way he's hyped up to. Me mentioning Sidney Crosby in this thread had nothing to do with bashing him or me not liking him. In fact, he has undeniable skill as a hockey player - and I've said that time and time again.

Take a chill pill. This isn't the "bash Crosby" thread that you're making it out to be.

[MacK_Attack 108]

I just stated a fact - he's not producing the way he's hyped up to.

Yeah, but look at the crap he has to play with. Miro Satan shows up about as often as a solar eclipse.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I didn't bash him because he wasn't scoring as much. I just stated a fact - he's not producing the way he's hyped up to. Me mentioning Sidney Crosby in this thread had nothing to do with bashing him or me not liking him. In fact, he has undeniable skill as a hockey player - and I've said that time and time again.

Take a chill pill. This isn't the "bash Crosby" thread that you're making it out to be.

It's one of a million "Anti-Crosby" threads that have popped up on LGW, and we all know what the intentions of this thread are and where its going.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

Yeah, but look at the crap he has to play with. Miro Satan shows up about as often as a solar eclipse.

There's no doubt in my mind that if Crosby were on a better team, he'd be hailed as a better player. By the same token, though - Malkin plays with the same team and somehow manages to produce like wildfire for them.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

It's one of a million "Anti-Crosby" threads that have popped up on LGW, and we all know what the intentions of this thread are and where its going.

If the intentions are as well-known as you say, then I certainly wasn't a part of it.

I don't hate Crosby. I don't want him to get into a horrible accident and become hideously disfigured. I think he's a 20 year old kid, with a lot of talent, who's been given the ridiculous burden of carrying the NHL on his shoulders. Anything I said wasn't meant to bash Crosby in the slightest.

[MacK_Attack 108]

There's no doubt in my mind that if Crosby were on a better team, he'd be hailed as a better player. By the same token, though - Malkin plays with the same team and somehow manages to produce like wildfire for them.

Yeah, that's true, though teams can only send their best checkers out against one of them, provided that they're on separate lines. I'd wager that Crosby probably gets them. I'll also say that Crosby needs linemates to put the puck in the net, and Malkin has more natural goal scoring ability and can produce more by himself.

I think it's also pretty safe that Crosby hasn't been 100% healthy lately.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

If the intentions are as well-known as you say, then I certainly wasn't a part of it.

I don't hate Crosby. I don't want him to get into a horrible accident and become hideously disfigured. I think he's a 20 year old kid, with a lot of talent, who's been given the ridiculous burden of carrying the NHL on his shoulders. Anything I said wasn't meant to bash Crosby in the slightest.

I never said you were.

[drwscc 212]

I think it's also pretty safe that Crosby hasn't been 100% healthy lately.

Wonder if he'd be more healthy if he rested instead of spending 3 days schmoozing at the All Star Game.

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

bleh. Crosby threads....goalie threads.....both seem to get equally out of hand and equally retarded. People state their opinions ( which may or not have any value ) on either of these plentiful threads around here, and the fireworks begin. C'mon, folks. It ain't nothin new, and it ain't gonna change. Get drawn in or don't. It's only as important as you want it to be.

[The Secret 304]

I didn't bash him because he wasn't scoring as much. I just stated a fact - he's not producing the way he's hyped up to. Me mentioning Sidney Crosby in this thread had nothing to do with bashing him or me not liking him. In fact, he has undeniable skill as a hockey player - and I've said that time and time again.

Take a chill pill. This isn't the "bash Crosby" thread that you're making it out to be.

Where do you find a number that is being hyped that Crosby should be living up to? Isn't he the second line Centre in Pittsburgh? and isn't he in the top 3 in points and assists? He is producing quite well despite the fact he isn't running miles ahead of everyone. He is ahead in points and assists from all of our stars isn't he? He is also playing on a struggling team and still doing that. Not sure how much more people expect of him really? His short career has been phenominal to say the least. He has been absolute consistency since starting in the league.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

There's no doubt in my mind that if Crosby were on a better team, he'd be hailed as a better player. By the same token, though - Malkin plays with the same team and somehow manages to produce like wildfire for them.

There's a nine point gap between Malkin and Crosby. Appreciable, but not exactly huge.