Guest NumbaSixty-Six Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Zach Parise has had a breakout year and is on fire. He passed up Datsyuk's 75 points. I think he is probably just as good as anyone else in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) He's definitely underrated, though I'll throw the whole "eastern conference" argument out there because I'm an *******. Edit: No, really, it's just to get it out of the way. Parise is definitely a player that should be getting more discussion. Edited March 2, 2009 by Datsyerberger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozac 10 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 I brought this up before, saying that if you want to go by stats, he is as good as Datsyuk but I was quickly shot down with the whole homerish "Parise has more ice time and PP time" argument. I live in NJ and see the Devils a lot on TV and live, and I have to say that he is the hardest working player in the league from what I've seen. Yes, he works harder than Datsyuk, or at least he makes it seem so. He brings it every single night and every single shift. He is probably less talented than Datsyuk in certain aspects of the game (but then again you can say that about anybody), but his hard work certainly makes up for it. On a related note, with Brodeur back and looking better than ever I think the Devils are serious contenders for the Stanley cup this year. If they land a high profile defenseman who can man their power play at the deadline (Kaberle or something) then you won't see any holes in their lineup all the way down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopenhagenWing 38 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 On a related note, with Brodeur back.. And well rested... In the past couple of years, to me Brodeur has looked worn out during the playoffs due to his 65-70 starts every year. A healthy, rested Brodeur is a scary thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Zach has a nose for the net and is always willing to do whatever it takes to score. He is not as strong on the puck as Datsyuk and not as good a passer. I wouldnt say he is as good as them yet but he works extremely hard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Parise is the man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Parise is awesome, but if you're looking at all-around ability, I'd much rather have Datsyuk/Z/Hossa (if that's the big 3 you're talking about) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDatsyukDangle 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Parise is my boy, always have liked him. I was fortunate to snag him with picks around 85 in a few of my fantasy hockey leagues. I don't think he is a better player than Dats tho- Dats is just too good defensively and has the same scoring touch as Parise. That being said, if NJ keeps playing the way they have, I would not be surprised to see them in the Eastern Conference Finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fingercots 6 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 I do wonder about how Parise will follow up this season. A few years back, Brian Gionta had a "break-out" year and hasn't been that impressive since that season. Will Parise continue to get better or will he never again match his perfomance from this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lfd250 1 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 He HAS to be good in NJ, who else is there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NumbaSixty-Six Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Parise is awesome, but if you're looking at all-around ability, I'd much rather have Datsyuk/Z/Hossa (if that's the big 3 you're talking about) No I am not talking about the DRW Homer "Big 3". I am talking about the NHL "Big 3", Malkin/Ovechkin/Crosby and don't give me that s*** about their overrated compared to Datsyuk either. It looks like this Year Malkin is going to run away with the scoring title so that would mean that in the last 3 years Crosby/Ovechkin/Malkin all won the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) No I am not talking about the DRW Homer "Big 3". I am talking about the NHL "Big 3", Malkin/Ovechkin/Crosby and don't give me that s*** about their overrated compared to Datsyuk either. It looks like this Year Malkin is going to run away with the scoring title so that would mean that in the last 3 years Crosby/Ovechkin/Malkin all won the title. Hmm, what did Malkin and Crosby do when they matched up against the DRW "Big 2" in the finals? Datsyuk/Z = 3 Cups and a Conn Smythe between the two of them. Crosby + Malkin + Ovechkin = 0 Hope you enjoy Malkin's scoring title parade in downtown Pittsburgh this summer. Jim Kelly was a pretty good QB, too. Who would you rather have, him or Big Ben? Chaaaampionship. Edited March 2, 2009 by KronwallCRUNCH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NumbaSixty-Six Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Hmm, what did Malkin and Crosby do when they matched up against the DRW "Big 2" in the finals? Datsyuk/Z = 3 Cups and a Conn Smythe between the two of them. Crosby + Malkin + Ovechkin = 0 Hope you enjoy Malkin's scoring title parade in downtown Pittsburgh this summer. Jim Kelly was a pretty good QB, too. Who would you rather have, him or Big Ben? Chaaaampionship. Datsyuk and Zetterberg are 10 years older? How many scoring titles do those players have? How many points does Zetterberg have? Pure homer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Lmao, Zetterberg isn't on the same level as Ovie/Crosby/Parise/Dats/Malkin. I don't see how you can be so misconstrued. With that said the Stanley Cup is won through depth and experience. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 No I am not talking about the DRW Homer "Big 3". I am talking about the NHL "Big 3", Malkin/Ovechkin/Crosby and don't give me that s*** about their overrated compared to Datsyuk either. It looks like this Year Malkin is going to run away with the scoring title so that would mean that in the last 3 years Crosby/Ovechkin/Malkin all won the title. Hey Pittsburgh homer, Datsyuk can score points like these guys and has a Selke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Datsyuk and Zetterberg are 10 years older? How many scoring titles do those players have? How many points does Zetterberg have? Pure homer. They're older, but haven't been in the league 10 years longer. But I wouldn't expect you to know that. Pitt had their shot to win a Cup last year, well, not really...but they were in the finals. Zetterberg played in his finals, and Crosby/Malkin played in theirs; who won the Conn Smythe? Count the rings. Now, your mighty "Big 2" are barely sniffing the playoffs while Datsyuk, Z, and Hossa are 3 pts out of first place. Coincedence? I think not. And if you want to talk about "Big 3's" how about the "Big 4?" I'd say Lidstrom deserves to be in that conversation, too. Enjoy the long offseason! Seriously though, let me know about that Malkin parade and I'll tell you when the Stanley Cup parade is here...In case you missed it last summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Player =/ Team Zetterberg didn't single-handedly shut down Pittsburgh. Our experience, and depth absolutely dwarfed Pittsburgh. And just in case you forgot it's a team sport. This thread is about specific players, keep it that way. I'll say it again, THIS SEASON. 1. Malkin 2. Ovie 3. Dats 4. Parise 5. Crosby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Datsyuk and Zetterberg are 10 years older? How many scoring titles do those players have? How many points does Zetterberg have? Pure homer. I can't take your opinion seriously after you said JT was a play-maker not a scorer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NumbaSixty-Six Report post Posted March 3, 2009 I can't take your opinion seriously after you said JT was a play-maker not a scorer. He has 30% more assists than he does goals. So shove that up your ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 He has 30% more assists than he does goals. So shove that up your ass. Do you have an opinion that is not based purely on statistics? It's clear you don't watch much hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Do you have an opinion that is not based purely on statistics? It's clear you don't watch much hockey. Give him/her a break. His/her team was almost moved to Las Vegas/Oklahoma/Mars due to lack of fan support, everybody has to start watching hockey sometime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Give him/her a break. His/her team was almost moved to Las Vegas/Oklahoma/Mars due to lack of fan support, everybody has to start watching hockey sometime. Seriously though, he/she's opinion is difficult to take seriously. He passed up Datsyuk's 75 points. I think he is probably just as good as anyone else in the league. Doesn't mention his defensive game, checking, speed, grit, etc. Datsyuk and Zetterberg are 10 years older? How many scoring titles do those players have? How many points does Zetterberg have? Pure homer. Only point he/she can raise is scoring titles and numbers. He has 30% more assists than he does goals. So shove that up your ass. Again pure numbers. Nothing about JT being compared to Bossy. Nothing about him breaking Gretzky's record for goal scoring as a 16yo. Nothing about his obscene goal sense and shooting ability. All because he/she doesn't know. Uneducated opinions. Can't respect any of his/her posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 He has shown he has the skills to be an "elite" player. His father had a pretty decent career; the apple doesn't fall... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
