shutoutking 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 You see what happens when you don't cheapshot a guy before he knows its coming? You actually lose a fight. Great...now there's two of you. Three of Tootoo's 10 fights this year were retribution. Can you find me one where he hit someone after the whistle? The fact remains that you and Opie don't really want to realize is that while Tootoo has been known to make a few questionable hits, he's one of the best fighters in his class and RARELY backs down and often takes one for the team. I'm pretty sure most of you would love having him toughening up the Wings on your 3rd or 4th line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 I hate Tootoo as much as any Wings fan, but you are being stupid right now. They squared off, they were ready to go when tootoo realized he needed to get the tape off. he started backing up and taking the tape off at the same time, and when he threw it away he went after staubitz. it is extremely clear, and there is no other explaination. And your being an arrogant prick, now that we got the name calling out of the way, explain to me how it is that Tootoo knew they were going to fight, initiated the fight, had to be thinking about it ever since he got boarded, yet never thought to take the tape off, yet the instant the fight happens he remembers. Good thing he put the string on his other finger to remind him! Listen if Crosby can make the decision to remove his visor to get in a fight, in which Savard (one of my fav non wings) completely chickened out of, why can't Toots remember or think far enough in advance to take off his piece of tape, that was on one friggin finger. His whole hand wasn't wrapped, his finger was. He had a cut he wanted protected. Posters admitted Staubitz let him take the tape off, why then does he have to go all the way to center ice to do it? Why does it take him to the blue line to start to take the tape off? And if you are saying he didn't remember it until the Blue line then why in the hell was he skating that far to begin with? If he doesn't remember the tape why start with the back peddling, if he knew it was there why not remove it sooner, was he afraid he would get Tootoo-ed while taking the tape off? Great fight, mad points for eating some heavy punches, respect for being able to do what he does at the NHL level, but the guy stoops to many different levels to get his shots in. I wouldn't be surprised if he was trying to lure Staubitz in and sucker punch him in the midst of a stride, but to say that Staubitz isn't chasing him down is really funny to me. Watch Staubitz stride after him after they reach the blue line, sure it is when the TAPE finally comes off, but Staubitz still takes 2 full strides to get with in reaching distance of Tootoo nearly 20 seconds into the fight. I see it differently than you, I didn't attack you or your point of view, I expressed mine you challenged it and now I am defending. If I am stupid because I don't see what Tootoo did as Manning up, well then I guess I am stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Great...now there's two of you. Three of Tootoo's 10 fights this year were retribution. Can you find me one where he hit someone after the whistle? The fact remains that you and Opie don't really want to realize is that while Tootoo has been known to make a few questionable hits, he's one of the best fighters in his class and RARELY backs down and often takes one for the team. I'm pretty sure most of you would love having him toughening up the Wings on your 3rd or 4th line. One point I want to make clear: Do not want Tootoo on the team I root for. I may not be the biggest Downey fan(again spelling) but what he does is go out square up and fight. Tootoo may have had some good fights this year but last year and years before are marred with him punching with gloves on, sucker punches and the sort. Tootoo may be able to play the game better than Downey, I will take Downey's 5 minutes a night over Tootoo's questionable(as you put it) displays of complete and utter disrespect! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Great...now there's two of you. Three of Tootoo's 10 fights this year were retribution. Can you find me one where he hit someone after the whistle? The fact remains that you and Opie don't really want to realize is that while Tootoo has been known to make a few questionable hits, he's one of the best fighters in his class and RARELY backs down and often takes one for the team. I'm pretty sure most of you would love having him toughening up the Wings on your 3rd or 4th line. Never once did I discredit Tootoo's fighting ability or his "taking one for the team". It's the s*** he pulls during game-play that's disgraceful. That's what I was referring to. Also, a solid amount are not "questionable hits", they're downright cheapshots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dano33 41 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 And your being an arrogant prick, now that we got the name calling out of the way, explain to me how it is that Tootoo knew they were going to fight, initiated the fight, had to be thinking about it ever since he got boarded, yet never thought to take the tape off, yet the instant the fight happens he remembers. Good thing he put the string on his other finger to remind him! Listen if Crosby can make the decision to remove his visor to get in a fight, in which Savard (one of my fav non wings) completely chickened out of, why can't Toots remember or think far enough in advance to take off his piece of tape, that was on one friggin finger. His whole hand wasn't wrapped, his finger was. He had a cut he wanted protected. Posters admitted Staubitz let him take the tape off, why then does he have to go all the way to center ice to do it? Why does it take him to the blue line to start to take the tape off? And if you are saying he didn't remember it until the Blue line then why in the hell was he skating that far to begin with? If he doesn't remember the tape why start with the back peddling, if he knew it was there why not remove it sooner, was he afraid he would get Tootoo-ed while taking the tape off? Great fight, mad points for eating some heavy punches, respect for being able to do what he does at the NHL level, but the guy stoops to many different levels to get his shots in. I wouldn't be surprised if he was trying to lure Staubitz in and sucker punch him in the midst of a stride, but to say that Staubitz isn't chasing him down is really funny to me. Watch Staubitz stride after him after they reach the blue line, sure it is when the TAPE finally comes off, but Staubitz still takes 2 full strides to get with in reaching distance of Tootoo nearly 20 seconds into the fight. I see it differently than you, I didn't attack you or your point of view, I expressed mine you challenged it and now I am defending. If I am stupid because I don't see what Tootoo did as Manning up, well then I guess I am stupid. Why bring crosby into this, seriously, the two scenarios don't even compare. If Staubitz let him take the tape off then why was he chasing him? If Tootoo stands there and takes the tape off instead of backing up he gets his face caved in without being able to defend himself. If Tootoo was certain a fight was going to happen he wouldn't have taped his finger in the first place. He isn't going to hold up play before a faceoff so he can take tape off because they are now both on the ice and are gunna fight. As for not "attacking my point of view", i dont see how what you said was any different from what i said. you could've not called me a name and sent me a message, but you stooped to my level. i admit i shouldn't have called you stupid, there is no reason for that, but i think your hatred for tootoo is causing you too take this too far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 It's glorious! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 No I laughed at him and called him chicken s*** and then people started questioning my posts, I didn't take it too far, people have questioned my opinion and I have defended it. It is a discussion of opinions. HE COULD HAVE TAKEN THE TAPE OFF AT THE BENCH, that is my point in bringing in Crosby. Crosby was challenged, knew that if he left the visor on Savard would s*** on him all night, and that if he took it off they would go at it (Savard bailed). Tootoo got boarded, he wanted revenge, he doesn't need to wait until the face off dot to take his tape off. The odds of him being on the ice with Staubitz again would have been highly likely. The situations are the same in the fact that they both knew a fight could happen, one who is not a fighter knew to take a piece of equipment off, the other a fighter, couldn't remember to take a piece of tape off, please! I should have been the bigger man? Good reasoning! I could have done something different, you're right, and you could have been respectful from the start, you weren't so why expect something from me you are not willing to show me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Wow, people on this board are getting worse and worse every day. I hate Tootoo as much as the next person but he was just taking tape off his fingers who cares if he skated 2 laps around the ice. He still went toe to toe and took his beating. To say he was backing down is ludicrous, he went after Staubitz once he got the tape off his fingers. He was hardly chicken s*** in that fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shutoutking 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Damn it Opie, read. Tootoo can't play without the tape. If Staubitz had've declined the bout, he'd have been on a shift with no protection. This isn't hard. Most everyone is disagreeing with you. Generally that means you're wrong. Thanks for the clarification, Mac, but I read it to mean that Tootoo only wins fights after a cheap shot by him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 f*** the Sharks, but atta boy, Staubitz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) Great so you and I henrik 40have a difference of opinions. See how easy that was. I didn't have to post that we have a difference of opinions, but I am proving my point, that you can have an opinion and I don't have to attack it! I know this will upset many of you [/sarcasm] however I have big project at work that starts at noon. laters gators! Edited March 20, 2009 by Opie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan40 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 made my day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Opinions are made to be questioned Opie and if your opinion is questioned then you need valid points to defend it and your points are completely invalid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Awesome fight, Tootoo finally got his. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Couldn't happen to a nicer victim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Tootoo cant fight, cant anyone see that? Hes been demolished like 5 times this season... Your credibility on any fight related topic has gone into minus figures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Great fight. Both were throwin bombs but Staubitz definitely tagged him quite a few times especially with those uppercuts but look at Tootoo hang in there...unreal.. Tootoo is probably the best pound4pound fighter in the league, and you know he'll be ready for round 4 the next time they play each other. Check out Tootoo switching hands in their last fight, not many guys who can pull that off what a trooper lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
servo 15 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Wow! So happy to see Tootoo get his ass handed too him. Man is Staubitz an animal. I haven't seen fisticufs like that since Probert's days! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Tootoo can eat Poopoo. Yeah, thru a straw for a while. Nice video, thanks for posting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Its been taken down??! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperNovaXll 124 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Nice. Staubitz and the Sharks just moved up a notch on my "like list" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 Water break!!! Damn it Opie, read. Tootoo can't play without the tape. If Staubitz had've declined the bout, he'd have been on a shift with no protection. This isn't hard. Most everyone is disagreeing with you. Generally that means you're wrong. Thanks for the clarification, Mac, but I read it to mean that Tootoo only wins fights after a cheap shot by him. Right so, if that tape had come off the shift before he would have been in the locker room getting it re-taped right? Sure no way in hell he could play without that tape? So that means the tape was holding his finger onto his body???? How on earth did he manage to fight with such a severely damaged hand, you are right wow we should be a Rocky-type statue with him and his tape to show how much he persevered through to fight Staubitz, his hand must look like Sakic's coming out of the snowblower! [/sarcasm] Was his finger falling off when the tape came off?? He couldn't play the game of hockey without a piece of tape on his finger, yet he can get into a fight with the same hand? Right! Now it all makes sense Opinions are made to be questioned Opie and if your opinion is questioned then you need valid points to defend it and your points are completely invalid. First off, I never said I wouldn't defend my position, but you weren't questioning my points you said I was being stupid. Fact he had tape on his hand/finger. Fact he started the fight. Fact he could have taken the tape off when ever he wanted to, first period, 2nd shift, between periods, after shoot around, whenever, he was going out there to start a fight, he doesn't reach for the tape (IMO) until the blue line, some 50 feet later (right 58 feet from goal to blue line) really, well how come other fighters are able to remove gear without leaving the same 5-6 foot area. Maybe if he didn't cheap shot people so often (not everytime) he wouldn't have to worry about it. You are saying he had no time to take the tape off, until the blue line, fine that is your take on, I have used ample evidence as to why I think he was skating away from the fight. I think he wanted to sucker punch Staubitz because he got boarded by him, but Staubitz got right in his face after the drop of the puck. Whether or not that is Jordin's take, your take, Saint Stephens take, I don't care that is my take on what transpired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gizmo 21 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 No Tootoo thread is complete until this gets posted: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shutoutking 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) Right so, if that tape had come off the shift before he would have been in the locker room getting it re-taped right? Sure no way in hell he could play without that tape? So that means the tape was holding his finger onto his body???? How on earth did he manage to fight with such a severely damaged hand, you are right wow we should be a Rocky-type statue with him and his tape to show how much he persevered through to fight Staubitz, his hand must look like Sakic's coming out of the snowblower! [/sarcasm] Was his finger falling off when the tape came off?? He couldn't play the game of hockey without a piece of tape on his finger, yet he can get into a fight with the same hand? Right! Now it all makes sense You're losing what little sense you had fast. English must not be your first language because this whole concept isn't hard to get at all, in fact almost everyone else in the thread has gotten it. That cut kept Jordin out 2+ weeks. No tape---no play, at least not effectively at all. He was quoted as saying he could hardly grip a stick without the tape. People have been known to decline fights and/or turtle. Thus, if Staubitz had declined Jordin would've been stuck tapeless on a shift. You can call Tootoo a lot of things, some of them justifiable, but one thing he isn't is a Lemeiux, Avery type who starts one and then walks away. He obviously went at Staubitz first AND held his ground when Staubitz was throwing illegal elbows, which is another issue entirely. Staubitz may want an escort in Nashville next week because if Belak is back you can be sure Brad's face will get reconfigured. Gizmo, great vid...show's how sometimes Jordin gets ahead of himself I'm sure you enjoy that almost as much as I enjoy watching the youtube of....... Weber and Lilja :rotflmao: Edited March 20, 2009 by shutoutking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) Water break!!! Right so, if that tape had come off the shift before he would have been in the locker room getting it re-taped right? Sure no way in hell he could play without that tape? So that means the tape was holding his finger onto his body???? How on earth did he manage to fight with such a severely damaged hand, you are right wow we should be a Rocky-type statue with him and his tape to show how much he persevered through to fight Staubitz, his hand must look like Sakic's coming out of the snowblower! [/sarcasm] Was his finger falling off when the tape came off?? He couldn't play the game of hockey without a piece of tape on his finger, yet he can get into a fight with the same hand? Right! Now it all makes sense First off, I never said I wouldn't defend my position, but you weren't questioning my points you said I was being stupid. Fact he had tape on his hand/finger. Fact he started the fight. Fact he could have taken the tape off when ever he wanted to, first period, 2nd shift, between periods, after shoot around, whenever, he was going out there to start a fight, he doesn't reach for the tape (IMO) until the blue line, some 50 feet later (right 58 feet from goal to blue line) really, well how come other fighters are able to remove gear without leaving the same 5-6 foot area. Maybe if he didn't cheap shot people so often (not everytime) he wouldn't have to worry about it. You are saying he had no time to take the tape off, until the blue line, fine that is your take on, I have used ample evidence as to why I think he was skating away from the fight. I think he wanted to sucker punch Staubitz because he got boarded by him, but Staubitz got right in his face after the drop of the puck. Whether or not that is Jordin's take, your take, Saint Stephens take, I don't care that is my take on what transpired. Find where I called you stupid. I said it was ludicrous to say that he was skating away from the fight. If he was skating away he would have never taken the blows he did and he would have just gone down. I'm not trying to defend Tootoo's character at all he does cheap shot people. I'm just saying that your view that he was skating away from the fight and that he is chicken s*** can't be defended well at all. Where he removed his tape is completely irrelevant to the fight. Edited March 20, 2009 by henrik40 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites