Barrie 900 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Whoever's starting, I'm behind him 100%! If Ozzie has some problems in the first few games, Conk is there to back him up and take over. Thinking about it, it's probably mentally better for the team in this situation if Ozzie starts. If Conkin starts, has problems and we need to make a switch to Ozzie, it's more of a panic if the goalie with the worse numbers comes in, than the other way around. It worked last year! Plus Conkin isn't a playoff tested goalie, Ozzie is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boomer 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Ugh. Confidence is one thing, delusion another entirely. Ozzie's done. This team will only win if they can score 6 per game, regardless of the goalie. Astute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boomer 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Well, now that Osgood has said he is ready to lead the team in the play offs I really do feel much better. Why esle would he say that? He says he feels great out there and he is going in the right direction going into the play offs. Who needs on-ice performances to backup your words? Playing good hockey is so over-rated anyway, talking about playing good hockey is really where its at! Atta boy Ozzie keep up the great work.... because your good enough, and smart enough and dog gone it people like you!yeah try standing on your head for change for the team instead of inflating your ego- has been! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Whoever's starting, I'm behind him 100%! If Ozzie has some problems in the first few games, Conk is there to back him up and take over. Thinking about it, it's probably mentally better for the team in this situation if Ozzie starts. If Conkin starts, has problems and we need to make a switch to Ozzie, it's more of a panic if the goalie with the worse numbers comes in, than the other way around. It worked last year! Plus Conkin isn't a playoff tested goalie, Ozzie is. Nice to see someone with a more pragmatic view of things, rather than a hopeless, negative, s***ty attitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain19 49 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 im behind ozzie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacAttack25 44 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Did I miss something? I thought Babcock said he was giving Conklin a shot now. Surely one game shouldn't count as Conklin's shot considering the number of chances Osgood has gotten. But if he goes with Osgood, I hope he's as ready like he says he is, because I haven't seen that yet this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Did I miss something? I thought Babcock said he was giving Conklin a shot now. Surely one game shouldn't count as Conklin's shot considering the number of chances Osgood has gotten. But if he goes with Osgood, I hope he's as ready like he says he is, because I haven't seen that yet this season. I think when your so close. One game is all you get. Look at it this way if Ozzy is not pulling it off he will get pulled. If you don't start with the Playoff tough goaltender and the known #1 and Conks stinks it up you have already destroyed Ozzies confidence. Conks did not expect to get the start so if they have to put him in then he will still have some confidence. In our current situation this is the right decision. It is not just the goalies fault though, the "D" has been rough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 4, 2009 I think when your so close. One game is all you get. Look at it this way if Ozzy is not pulling it off he will get pulled. If you don't start with the Playoff tough goaltender and the known #1 and Conks stinks it up you have already destroyed Ozzies confidence. Conks did not expect to get the start so if they have to put him in then he will still have some confidence. In our current situation this is the right decision. It is not just the goalies fault though, the "D" has been rough. 100% true, and whoever the goalie is, I'm 100% behind Babs and the team and will cheer my head off for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 100% true, and whoever the goalie is, I'm 100% behind Babs and the team and will cheer my head off for them. I am with you. 4 games or 16 in the post season, I will have this teams back! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lilja4mvp Report post Posted April 4, 2009 so how many "i feel good, now" comments is this from ozzie this season? 5? we know you feel good about yourself, chris. problem is no one else does. the guy is done like dinner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 100% true, and whoever the goalie is, I'm 100% behind Babs and the team and will cheer my head off for them. One day you'll hopefully realize that most of these so called "bandwagoners" are also cheering their heads off. In the end, most posters here have one thing in common, they want the Wings to succeed and will be heartbroken if they don't. As for how those people react here on LGW, that just depends on their personalities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
albo23 10 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 How many times has he said this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 4, 2009 One day you'll hopefully realize that most of these so called "bandwagoners" are also cheering their heads off. In the end, most posters here have one thing in common, they want the Wings to succeed and will be heartbroken if they don't. As for how those people react here on LGW, that just depends on their personalities. I never suggested they aren't cheering, I'm suggesting tearing down players on a team you're cheering for (and for certain people, when it's all they do) isn't going to make you look like you actually enjoy watching the team play/win, and it's going to cause the person to get s*** for it since very few people enjoy being around someone who just has a pissy negative attitude about something everyone else enjoys. Also, jumping off the bandwagon and declaring this season over before the playoffs even start is just the same thing. You can't really see someone as cheering when they're too busy jumping off the deep end and attacking players / declaring the season over. To assume otherwise isn't even slightly realistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 so how many "i feel good, now" comments is this from ozzie this season? 5? we know you feel good about yourself, chris. problem is no one else does. the guy is done like dinner. I guess that is all up to prospective. We just finished lunch at my house, dinner has not started so we are good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 The real season starts in two weeks. If Osgood says he's ready, then I'm going to have to believe him. This is a team full of veterans who know the deal when it comes to the playoffs and I'm sure that unless he feels absolutely 100% prepared and ready to put this regular season behind him, he wouldn't put himself out there and jeopardize his teams chances in the playoffs. Besides, I think some credit should be given to this guy to be honest. I'm not giving him a trophy or anything but a goalie nearing the end of his career that has a season like this would find it pretty easy to throw in the towel and ride out his days in the minors or something to that effect. However, Osgood has been his own biggest critic (save a few here) and has been trying to get it together all season for his team. Also, I'm more optimistic about this teams chances with Osgood in net simply because the Wings don't need excellent goaltending like other teams might. We just need him to be GOOD and that is a much shorter distance than having him try to be excellent out of the gate. This post season isn't all on Osgood's shoulders either because this team also needs to lock it down defensively and not hang Osgood out to dry. I support Chris Osgood. I support Ty Conklin. And I support the Detroit Red Wings!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 I know you're kidding with the chants and more support for Chris. Ozzie's gotten plenty of that this season, and he doesn't seem to be particularly annoyed with his own play, so I am not sure more praise is what is needed. If Ozzie and the team show up, no one can beat them. No one. It's entirely up to the team at this point. Neither goalie has a chance if the defense doesn't step up. People keep saying it's the "same team" out there as last season, but there is clearly not the same chemistry and emotion. The X-factor is missing, and it will probably be the difference. I still believe the Wings can do this. I just don't know that they will. Dont you mean the Downey-factor I dont care what Osgood says. Hes had numurous chances to get his act together this season and each time hes come back as bad if not worse than before. We just gotta hope our defence keeps him from having to do much work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 He wasn't ready for this season, let's only hope that he will be ready for upcoming playoff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 I never suggested they aren't cheering, I'm suggesting tearing down players on a team you're cheering for (and for certain people, when it's all they do) isn't going to make you look like you actually enjoy watching the team play/win, and it's going to cause the person to get s*** for it since very few people enjoy being around someone who just has a pissy negative attitude about something everyone else enjoys. Also, jumping off the bandwagon and declaring this season over before the playoffs even start is just the same thing. You can't really see someone as cheering when they're too busy jumping off the deep end and attacking players / declaring the season over. To assume otherwise isn't even slightly realistic. Sure they can. People can cheer and at the same time not believe that their team will succeed (Lions fans). Those people are called either pessimists or realists, depending on how bad their team is. Calling them bandwagoners only applies if someone refuses to watch any more Wings games, but then starts watching again when they hear that the team has made it to the Finals. Kind of like Pens fans who all of a sudden started to watch again when their team succeeded. That's what I'd call a true bandwagon fan. Wings fans who ***** about early playoff doom don't fit the definition of bandwagon fans, as long as they still watch and care just as deeply as someone who believes we'll win every game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Did I miss something? I thought Babcock said he was giving Conklin a shot now. Surely one game shouldn't count as Conklin's shot considering the number of chances Osgood has gotten. But if he goes with Osgood, I hope he's as ready like he says he is, because I haven't seen that yet this season. For the sake of clarity, since late February, when Babcock indicated that he was looking for one guy to take over the #1 spot, and make him "change his mind", (his words...not mine), about his Play Off goaltending: Osgood has gone 5-3, with a GAA of 2.85 and a SVP of .900. Crappy numbers, true, but a significant improvement over his Season Stats to that date. Conklin, on the other hand, has regressed, even more significantly, going 3-3, with a GAA of 3.63 and a SVP of .871, a drastic drop off from his Season Stats to that date. Conklin was given an opportunity to outplay Osgood during the most important portion of the Regular Season.....the Stretch Drive. Not only did he NOT outplay Osgood, (who improved on his numbers), during this critical stretch, he played his worst hockey of the year, posting worse number than Osgood has on the Season. This was not about one game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Why is this news? Osgood has been telling everyone he's ready for the majority of the season, and every time hes said it, nothings changed. Lets just hope for a fluke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 For the sake of clarity, since late February, when Babcock indicated that he was looking for one guy to take over the #1 spot, and make him "change his mind", (his words...not mine), about his Play Off goaltending: Osgood has gone 5-3, with a GAA of 2.85 and a SVP of .900. Crappy numbers, true, but a significant improvement over his Season Stats to that date. Conklin, on the other hand, has regressed, even more significantly, going 3-3, with a GAA of 3.63 and a SVP of .871, a drastic drop off from his Season Stats to that date. Conklin was given an opportunity to outplay Osgood during the most important portion of the Regular Season.....the Stretch Drive. Not only did he NOT outplay Osgood, (who improved on his numbers), during this critical stretch, he played his worst hockey of the year, posting worse number than Osgood has on the Season. This was not about one game. You know logic doesn't work here, Outsider. That said, I completely agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 768 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=416381 Well considering this useless excuse of a goalie/human being hasnt been able to lead the team in the regular season what makes him or anyone else think he can lead the team in the playoffs? Truth is he'll be a burden on this team for a couple of more seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Ugh. Confidence is one thing, delusion another entirely. Ozzie's done. This team will only win if they can score 6 per game, regardless of the goalie. How do you know Osgood is done? The season isn't even over yet. Nobody is done until the season is over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Well considering this useless excuse of a goalie/human being hasnt been able to lead the team in the regular season what makes him or anyone else think he can lead the team in the playoffs? Truth is he'll be a burden on this team for a couple of more seasons. Because the regular season and playoffs are two different seasons. Cam Ward for the Hurricanes is a perfect example when they won years ago. Didn't play well in the regular season, played well in the playoffs. Carolina won. Just one case scenario, all cases are definitely different, a situation like this doesn't happen much, but it CAN happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Well considering this useless excuse of a goalie/human being hasnt been able to lead the team in the regular season what makes him or anyone else think he can lead the team in the playoffs? Truth is he'll be a burden on this team for a couple of more seasons. With fans like you, who needs intestinal parasites? Regardless of how "useless" a goaltender you believe him to be, I'm betting that has little to no bearing on his worth as a human being. Comments such as yours, however, ususally paint a much better picture of a persons "worth", methinks. Thank heavens for that ignore button.... **click** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
