lecatpuke 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Ok, here's a breakdown of all possible outcomes for the 6th, 7th, and 8th spot in the playoffs. Each team has one game left: Columbus vs. Minnesota (Saturday 7:00pm) Anaheim at Phoenix (Saturday, 8:00pm) St. Louis at Colorado (Sunday, 5:00pm) Standings right now: GP W L OT PTS 6. Columbus Blue Jackets 81 41 30 10 92 7. Anaheim Ducks 81 42 33 6 90 8. St Louis Blues 81 40 31 10 90 Here are all of the possible outcomes and what they mean for us: Points Earned We Play ANA CBJ STL 0 0 0 Anaheim (ANA wins tie-breaker for 7th) 0 0 1 St. Louis 0 0 2 Columbus (STL wins tie-Breaker for 6th) 0 1 0 Anaheim (ANA wins tie-breaker for 7th) 0 1 1 St. Louis 0 1 2 St. Louis 0 2 0 Anaheim (ANA wins tie-breaker for 7th) 0 2 1 St. Louis 0 2 2 St. Louis 1 0 0 Anaheim 1 0 1 Anaheim (ANA wins tie-breaker for 7th) 1 0 2 Columbus (STL wins tie-Breaker for 6th) 1 1 0 Anaheim 1 1 1 Anaheim (ANA wins tie-breaker for 7th) 1 1 2 St. Louis 1 2 0 Anaheim 1 2 1 Anaheim (ANA wins tie-breaker for 7th) 1 2 2 St. Louis 2 0 0 Columbus (ANA wins tie-breaker for 6th) 2 0 1 Columbus (ANA wins tie-breaker for 6th) 2 0 2 St. Louis (3-way tie, ANA 6th with wins, STL 7th with record vs. CBJ) 2 1 0 Anaheim 2 1 1 Anaheim 2 1 2 Anaheim (ANA wins tie-breaker for 7th) 2 2 0 Anaheim 2 2 1 Anaheim 2 2 2 Anaheim (ANA wins tie-breaker for 7th) As you can see, there are 15 outcomes that lead to Anaheim, 8 that lead to St. Louis, and 4 that lead to Columbus. To sum it all up... in order to avoid Anaheim: If Anaheim wins, Columbus has to get zero points. If Anaheim loses (zero points), St. Louis has to get at least one point. If Anaheim gets one point, St. Louis has to win. The best possible outcome is for Anaheim to play San Jose, which will only happen if St. Louis gets more points than Anaheim. So basically, cheer for Minnesota, Phoenix, and St. Louis this weekend! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#18 the _Hoss_ 2 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) Thanks ! I've been wondering about this right now. I still don't know whether to root for them to loose or win !? Edited April 11, 2009 by #18 the _Hoss_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukiandeke 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I'd rather play the ducks than blues.... anyone else agree? they have been one of the best teams of 2009.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 In a way, I'm hoping they play Anaheim, that way I can buy some tickets and go to game 3 or game 4. But thats just me being selfish. For the sake of the team, it would obviously be better to avoid the travel and the team is rather hot right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunkylover 26 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Any team will be tough. The Wings have a better record against Anaheim than Columbus, but haven't lost to St. Louis at all. With that said, all three teams have been hot lately. I think the Anaheim series would be a good first round matchup because a lot of the players on this team can remember the first round sweep of '03 not to mention the recent loss in the WCF. The Wings have played well against Anaheim this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I'm not avoiding anyone. We're better. /thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Avoid Anaheim? Bring 'em on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I agree with datsyukiandeke, I don't mind Anaheim. I'd rather avoid St. Louis and Columbus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Anyone wishing for Anaheim is crazy. The Ducks would be a tougher matchup for the Sharks than the Blues would be. Those 2 teams hate each other, and would most likely play one hell of a physical series against each other. Think of it this way. Who would you rather see when we're on the PK? Pronger and Niedermayer on the point, or some guys named Woywitka and Oshie on the point? Also, Giguere has proven that he can beat us in a series. What has Chris Mason ever proven in the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDavis35 140 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Usually I'd say i didn't want to play Anaheim because of the rough travel Schedule, but it looks like we can't use that excuse with the Pairings. (Chicago - Western Canadian team; SJ - StL; Columbus - Other Cdn team) So I'd say Anaheim would be fine, give us games in the first round to really get up for and in the best case scenario, all-central 2nd round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller76 463 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I am wondering if the San Jose boards has a similar thread going on. I think i would prefer the Sharks play the Ducks in the first round. Leave the travel in the first round for Detroit nice and easy! But nice and easy hasn't worked well this year! They have consistently f***ed up every easy game this year. Look at the losses to the Islanders, Avalanche, Stars, and Predators! This team needs a kick in the ass! If I had a choice we would play a seven game series with San Jose first round! No more dancing, just play hockey for 60 minutes, and nobody can beat ths team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I want to see Ducks - Wings series. Let's kill the Quacks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I want the Blues. We've have good luck vs them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Also, Giguere has proven that he can beat us in a series. What has Chris Mason ever proven in the playoffs? Didn't Giguere prove that the first time he played us in the post season? Why should Mason be any different? Hell, the list of goalies who have single handedly eliminated a superior Wings teams isn't one goalie long... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I want the Blues. Travel factor and style of play being the biggest reasons why. Even if the Red Wings were to beat Anaheim, it would be a physically tough series heading into the second round. I think the Red Wings could make very quick work of the Blues if the Red Wings we all know show up to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Also, Giguere has proven that he can beat us in a series. Didn't Giguere prove that the first time he played us in the post season? Why should Mason be any different? Hell, the list of goalies who have single handedly eliminated a superior Wings teams isn't one goalie long... Jonas Hiller is their guy now anyway.... I wouldn't mind us playing the Ducks for the schedule on away games allowing me to watch another 7pm game first and also to be the ones to knock out the Ducks I also wouldn't mind seeing the Ducks play SJ for the matchup reasons so... doesn't really matter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) I'd rather play the ducks than blues.... anyone else agree? they have been one of the best teams of 2009.. The main problem with who to play that I'm worried about is first round travel. I think it was huge to last years run that they didn't have to jump 2 time zones in the first round. Otherwise, I'm with you there mysterious stranger, give me Anaheim, then the Blues, and definitely not Columbus. Let someone else deal with a hot tender. Anaheim's only real upper hand is the looming threat of goonery, which hopefully yields plenty of PPs for the leagues best units and no injuries on the Wings side. Edited April 11, 2009 by b.shanafan14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Don't understand the fear of Anaheim. Anaheim and St. Louis are both hot right now. Both play dirty. The only difference is travel, but it's only for one round and 2-3 games. After Round 1 we're unlikely to have to travel outside of the Central, unless we play San Jose. Me, I don't pick my poison, the Wings, if they paly like we know they can, can beat any team in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincanni 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Great analysis, but either way we're playing a team we've struggled against at lengths with Columbus, or one of the two hottest teams in the league post all-star break. Still Anaheim is the worse of the lot, considering travel and goon-like play, but it would be fun to beat them in the 1st round if we get the chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Hockey 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I want: 1. San Jose 2. Detroit 3. Vancouver 4. Chicago 5. Calgary 6. Anaheim 7. Columbus 8. St. Louis This way Anaheim can hopefully take out Vancouver for us, and even though SJ gets an easy first round pass, they are stuck with Anaheim for round 2. No matter who wins that series, the other team faces us in round 3 all beat up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) Didn't Giguere prove that the first time he played us in the post season? Why should Mason be any different? Hell, the list of goalies who have single handedly eliminated a superior Wings teams isn't one goalie long... Giguere isn't their #1 anyways, and regarding opposing goalies, it is because of opposing teams superior defense when the Wings have been eliminated, i.e. their offense sputters. There is no reason for that given how much offensive firepower and scoring prowess has been displayed. Edited April 11, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I am actually heading out to California for the majority of next week. From a viewing standpoint, the Ducks/Wings would be televised so at least I could watch it. But that's about the only good thing I see. Ducks are still bigger, stronger, meaner and the Getzlaf line is still impossible to control. Watch the games. We cannot stop the Getzlaf line with Perry and Ryan. We simply aren't big enough and they are supremely talented to go with that size. Terrible matchup for almost anybody. Throw in the back and forth travel and a punishing series, forget it. I want to avoid Anaheim in round 1. I doubt we'll face the BJ's so I'll take an uproven goalie with a bunch of rookies and young kids who aren't playoff tested and the relatively light travel schedule. Give me St.Louis all day long. Let Anaheim and San Jose pummel the crap out of each other. Besides those 2 bruising teams just wearing on each other, that'd be one hell of a fun series to watch as a hockey fan. San Jose v Anaheim Detroit v St.Louis Not saying i'm really afraid of Anaheim but why would you want to face them? Thus far the only reason I have heard is "to avenge 2007". Give me a fecking break. You gotta look at strengths and weaknesses, matchups, leadership, experience, size, travel, etc...... I am not afraid of the Blues at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmubronco420 25 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Giguere isn't their #1 anyways, and regarding opposing goalies, it is because of opposing teams superior defense when the Wings have been eliminated, i.e. their offense sputters. There is no reason for that given how much offensive firepower and scoring prowess has been displayed. lol, you never give goalies any credit do you, good or bad. Anyway giguere had michelin man sholder pads back when the ducks swept us, no way im afraid of them now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 I want the ducks! Quack Quack Mr. Goalie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Duck - Wings games are always good hockey.. And if you put them in a playoff seires VS. each other = excellent hockey... So I am rooting for a ducks-wings 1st round so I can see some great playoff hockey that I can go to at least 1 game of.. any one of the teams can take the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
