titanium2 867 Report post Posted May 2, 2009 http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2009/05/0...n-game-2/12409/ DETROIT — The constant adjustments that are so much a part of the Stanley Cup playoffs figure to involve more than just players and coaches when the Ducks and Detroit Red Wings meet Sunday in Game 2 of a second-round series. Joe Louis Arena fans who have made careers of booing Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger since his days with the rival St. Louis Blues are likely to turn much of their attention to Mike Brown after the NHL on Saturday declined to suspend the Ducks rookie winger for his controversial Friday night hit on Jiri Hudler in Detroit’s 3-2 victory. Brown received major and game-misconduct penalties for the neutral-zone check that left Hudler’s face bloodied at 11:29 of the first period, and the Red Wings erased an early 1-0 deficit when Johan Franzen scored on the ensuing five-minute power play. The call also left the Ducks down a man the rest of the night, which resulted in top-line center Ryan Getzlaf playing nearly 28 minutes, much of the time filling Brown’s vacated spot on the penalty-killing unit. “It was definitely a long night, with all the penalties and stuff like that,†Getzlaf said after the Ducks went through a short Saturday morning practice at the Detroit City Sports Center. “That stuff’s not the easiest to deal with, but I feel pretty good today.†While Brown and the Ducks could find some vindication in the league looking past what Coach Randy Carlyle reiterated Saturday was nothing more than “a hard hockey hit,†frustration remained evident. In addition to the Ducks having surrendered the decisive goal to Red Wings defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom with 49.1 seconds left, Carlyle was unhappy that Franzen did not receive a penalty for bowling over Ducks goaltender Jonas Hiller after having scored at 12:33 of the first period. The Ducks also took exception to a first-period hit by Detroit defenseman Niklas Kronwall that cut Ryan Carter and left the Ducks center with other facial damage that remained evident Saturday. “It’s amazing there weren’t any replays on the Kronwall check on Ryan Carter,†Carlyle said. “He jumped and left his feet, but there were no replays on that.†While Carlyle had acknowledged Friday night that the work of referees Kelly Sutherland and Marc Joannette had “some effect†on his “temperament,†and Detroit enjoyed a 6-4 advantage in power-play opportunities in Game 1, there were no plans to lodge any complaints with the NHL. “If you’re going to call the league on every little thing that goes on, they’re going to get a little sick and tired of you — I guarantee you,†Carlyle said. “And that’s not what this is about. You move on.†The more immediate concern for the Ducks is shoring up some breakdowns that cost them Friday night. Cutting down on penalties, minimizing turnovers, lessening congestion in front of Hiller, making it more difficult for the Red Wings to penetrate their blue line and challenging Detroit goalie Chris Osgood with more shots and traffic are among “a few points of emphasis.†Another is faceoffs. The Red Wings piled up a monumental 36-15 advantage in the circles, providing a huge leg up with the puck-possession style they employ so effectively. “There are a few things we can do to change that,†Carlyle said. “They did a better job of supporting their centers in those situations, as far as that loose puck. Their winger or their defenseman got to it before ours did. Their mandate is that they’re going to jump one of their wingers into the middle. You can call it cheating. You can call it aggressive, whatever you want to call it. That’s up to the linesmen to control. I don’t call it cheating.†Aside from center Todd Marchant, who won 11 of 21 draws, Detroit captured 26 of 30. The usually reliable Getzlaf, who won 50.2 percent of his draws during the regular season, planned to spend part of Saturday watching video after having lost 18 of 21. The top two Red Wings centers, Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg, went 12-4 and 16-7, respectively. Datsyuk ranked ninth in the NHL in faceoff winning percentage at 56 percent during the regular season, while Zetterberg was 20th at 53.3 percent as Detroit posted a league-best 55.1 team winning percentage. “They’ve been a good team all year on faceoffs,†Marchant said. “They have guys that battle. They don’t quit on pucks. That’s an area we have to be better at. If we have the puck more, then they have to come and get it from us.†Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwin 240 Report post Posted May 2, 2009 “If you’re going to call the league on every little thing that goes on, they’re going to get a little sick and tired of you — I guarantee you,†Carlyle said. “And that’s not what this is about. You move on.†Oh yeah, you're doing a really good job of taking your own advice there Carlyle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted May 2, 2009 He's such a hypocrite... Look at the number of times Osgood had people hacking at him when he had the puck, or pushing him into the crease. It looked like a scrum at one point, all that was missing was the egg. It's nice to have a coach who tries to stay above this sort of stuff. Michelle's crap last year was pretty annoying too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turretin 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2009 Does anyone have video of the Kronwall hit he was complaining about? I couldn't find it on youtube. Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2009 Does anyone have video of the Kronwall hit he was complaining about? I couldn't find it on youtube. Thanks in advance. You probably won't be able to either because it wasn't anything big and it definnitely wasn't illegal. It's just Carlyle being a panzy and a poor loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormboy 47 Report post Posted May 2, 2009 it's nice that he at least mentions that you could call our faceoff wins cheating. i mean, he "doesn't," but it's really great that every aspect of the game we beat them at now becomes subject to scrutiny. hmm...what ways are we either cheating or being aided by the refs? faceoffs? check. physical play? check. crease presence? check check check. powerplays? check. i'm sure there are a few more that i'm forgetting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted May 2, 2009 http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2009/05/0...n-game-2/12409/ DETROIT — The constant adjustments that are so much a part of the Stanley Cup playoffs figure to involve more than just players and coaches when the Ducks and Detroit Red Wings meet Sunday in Game 2 of a second-round series. Joe Louis Arena fans who have made careers of booing Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger since his days with the rival St. Louis Blues are likely to turn much of their attention to Mike Brown after the NHL on Saturday declined to suspend the Ducks rookie winger for his controversial Friday night hit on Jiri Hudler in Detroit’s 3-2 victory. Brown received major and game-misconduct penalties for the neutral-zone check that left Hudler’s face bloodied at 11:29 of the first period, and the Red Wings erased an early 1-0 deficit when Johan Franzen scored on the ensuing five-minute power play. The call also left the Ducks down a man the rest of the night, which resulted in top-line center Ryan Getzlaf playing nearly 28 minutes, much of the time filling Brown’s vacated spot on the penalty-killing unit. “It was definitely a long night, with all the penalties and stuff like that,†Getzlaf said after the Ducks went through a short Saturday morning practice at the Detroit City Sports Center. “That stuff’s not the easiest to deal with, but I feel pretty good today.†While Brown and the Ducks could find some vindication in the league looking past what Coach Randy Carlyle reiterated Saturday was nothing more than “a hard hockey hit,†frustration remained evident. In addition to the Ducks having surrendered the decisive goal to Red Wings defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom with 49.1 seconds left, Carlyle was unhappy that Franzen did not receive a penalty for bowling over Ducks goaltender Jonas Hiller after having scored at 12:33 of the first period. The Ducks also took exception to a first-period hit by Detroit defenseman Niklas Kronwall that cut Ryan Carter and left the Ducks center with other facial damage that remained evident Saturday. “It’s amazing there weren’t any replays on the Kronwall check on Ryan Carter,†Carlyle said. “He jumped and left his feet, but there were no replays on that.†While Carlyle had acknowledged Friday night that the work of referees Kelly Sutherland and Marc Joannette had “some effect†on his “temperament,†and Detroit enjoyed a 6-4 advantage in power-play opportunities in Game 1, there were no plans to lodge any complaints with the NHL. “If you’re going to call the league on every little thing that goes on, they’re going to get a little sick and tired of you — I guarantee you,†Carlyle said. “And that’s not what this is about. You move on.†The more immediate concern for the Ducks is shoring up some breakdowns that cost them Friday night. Cutting down on penalties, minimizing turnovers, lessening congestion in front of Hiller, making it more difficult for the Red Wings to penetrate their blue line and challenging Detroit goalie Chris Osgood with more shots and traffic are among “a few points of emphasis.†Another is faceoffs. The Red Wings piled up a monumental 36-15 advantage in the circles, providing a huge leg up with the puck-possession style they employ so effectively. “There are a few things we can do to change that,†Carlyle said. “They did a better job of supporting their centers in those situations, as far as that loose puck. Their winger or their defenseman got to it before ours did. Their mandate is that they’re going to jump one of their wingers into the middle. You can call it cheating. You can call it aggressive, whatever you want to call it. That’s up to the linesmen to control. I don’t call it cheating.†Aside from center Todd Marchant, who won 11 of 21 draws, Detroit captured 26 of 30. The usually reliable Getzlaf, who won 50.2 percent of his draws during the regular season, planned to spend part of Saturday watching video after having lost 18 of 21. The top two Red Wings centers, Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg, went 12-4 and 16-7, respectively. Datsyuk ranked ninth in the NHL in faceoff winning percentage at 56 percent during the regular season, while Zetterberg was 20th at 53.3 percent as Detroit posted a league-best 55.1 team winning percentage. “They’ve been a good team all year on faceoffs,†Marchant said. “They have guys that battle. They don’t quit on pucks. That’s an area we have to be better at. If we have the puck more, then they have to come and get it from us.†OMFG. All I've heard from this team is whine whine whine whine. STFU and play. Every article I've read is Ducks whinefest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings4life 3 Report post Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) Carlyle just needs to shut up I wasn't that irritated when Therrien complained or Hitchcock, but this is just irritating, Red wings are dirty players, dirty checks, interfere with goal keepers and everything else just shut up and play Edited May 3, 2009 by redwings4life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bobbyryan Report post Posted May 3, 2009 Carlyle just needs to shut up I wasn't that irritated when Therrien complained or Hitchcock, but this is just irritating, Red wings are dirty players, dirty checks, interfere with goal keepers and everything else just shut up and play Carlyle is an embarassment to the franchise. The guys gave up listening to him long ago. All he has left are his whines to the refs/press. You don't see that from the players or the fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
