Malkn for Conn Smythe

[chrisdetroit 189]

This is just mind numbing. The guy was given a get out of jail free pass and they want to give him the Conn Smyth even if the Pens lose.

WTF

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_dadd...?urn=nhl,168669

[themule0932 0]

As much as I hate to say it, he is the only other player that I could see winning it besides Chris Osgood. For me it goes 1. Chris Osgood, 2. Malkin

[Mike 0]

1. Osgood

2. Zetterberg

Doesn't matter after that.

[Lovin Jiri Fischer 147]

Malkin was very very effective during the first three rounds. But he has been pretty average in the finals and if no one can see that then they should all go to Dr. Rahmani.

[Reds4Life 51]

imho:

Wings win - Zetterberg

Pens win - Crosby

[Guest L3T5G0W1NG5]

As much as I hate to say it, he is the only other player that I could see winning it besides Chris Osgood. For me it goes 1. Chris Osgood, 2. Malkin

so you're saying if the wings won the cup, malkin deserves the conn over Z? smart, you're not.

[Dabura 12,232]

Not such a ridiculous idea, really. In terms of marketing, I'm sure the Powers That Be don't want to see Malkin and Crosby walk away empty-handed from two straight SCF series. As for actual merit, the guy basically is the Penguins right now. Sid has been suffocated; he's no chance of winning it. But Malkin has been a threat at times.

Not that I think being "a threat at times" warrants a Conn Smythe, especially if the Wings win. But it's not like the idea has nothing to it.

[egroen 384]

If you want to award the Conn Smythe like the Hart - sure - of course you have to give it to a great player on a not so great team.... they are easily "more valuable to their team." It's a fact that great teams ususally beat out great individuals, so the Conn Smythe should go to a player from a losing team virtually every year. Great individual effort can often get you deep in the playoffs, but it rarely gets you the ultimate prize without being surrounded by a great team.

[Echolalia 2,961]

Malkin was very very effective during the first three rounds. But he has been pretty average in the finals and if no one can see that then they should all go to Dr. Rahmani.

7 points in 5 games is average?

[drwscc 212]

If a team wins the Cup 2 years in a row, though, back to back, you can't give the hardware to the other team. Yes, Giguere won it when the Ducks lost the Cup, but that was because he WAS the Ducks for almost the whole playoffs. If Crosby wasn't playing, Malkin would have been wearing the Zetterberg blanket, and would have been invisible as well. He's only benefitting as the less dangerous of a two headed monster.

Now, if Malkin comes out tomorrow night and has an awesome game, putting the Pens on his shoulders, and willing them into a Game 7, then he will probably win the Smythe regardless of the results.

[Dabura 12,232]

Look at it this way: where would the Pens be right now without Malkin? Probably dead in the water.

Where would the Wings be without Hank? Ozzie? Nick? Mule? Probably still competitive, probably still winning.

I have an intense dislike for Evgeni Malkin. He's immature. He's all offense and absolutely no defense. He's ugly. But he means a s***-ton to this Penguins team, and I actually find that kind of impressive, considering his disappearing act in last year's SCF.

Edited June 8, 2009 by Dabura

[themule0932 0]

so you're saying if the wings won the cup, malkin deserves the conn over Z? smart, you're not.

Zetterberg has too many empty net points IMO. Trust me I would love to see Zetterberg win it, but with the way the league is with Crosby and Malkin they most likely would have it go to Malkin after Osgood due to his performance this year.

[themule0932 0]

Look at it this way: where would the Pens be right now without Malkin? Probably dead in the water.

Where would the Wings be without Hank? Ozzie? Nick? Mule? Probably still competitive, probably still winning.

I have an intense dislike for Evgeni Malkin. He's immature. He's all offense and absolutely no defense. He's ugly. But he means a s***-ton to this Penguins team, and I actually find that kind of impressive, considering his disappearing act in last year's SCF.

And I agree 100% with your post here.

[Datsyerberger 279]

Wings without Ozzie wouldn't be here. Not unless the replacement was just as spectacular.

[Mitchmac33 103]

The thing i find wrong is the comparing malkin to j.s. j.s. was a force. he stopped everything. he surprised everyone by sweeping detroit. malkin hasn't had that kind of upset to be credited to him. i personally, would put Ozzie at the top followed by Z, if the wings pull it out i mean

[Mitchmac33 103]

Wings without Ozzie wouldn't be here. Not unless the replacement was just as spectacular.

the replacement would be conklin lol

[Dabura 12,232]

Wings without Ozzie wouldn't be here. Not unless the replacement was just as spectacular.

Ozzie has been phenomenal. He's my pick for MVP, actually.

But Malkin means more to the Pens. The Pens would, without question, be toast without him. The Wings could probably get by with Conklin.

[Lovin Jiri Fischer 147]

7 points in 5 games is average?

And yet he's a -1 and has 27 penalty minutes in the finals also. You need to look at the whole picture.

[Dano33 41]

Zetterberg has too many empty net points IMO. Trust me I would love to see Zetterberg win it, but with the way the league is with Crosby and Malkin they most likely would have it go to Malkin after Osgood due to his performance this year.

So empty net point takes away from his value to the team? Without Zetterberg we would have lost at least one of the first two home games, which would pretty much end the series since we didn't win one in Pitt with Zetterberg. Zetterberg shutting down Crosby has been absolutely massive and without that we would be getting blown out.

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

Since the award was first given in 1965, five players on the losing team in the SCF have won the award:

2003 Jean-Sebastien Giguere* Mighty Ducks of Anaheim

1987 Ron Hextall* Philadelphia Flyers

1976 Reg Leach* Philadelphia Flyers

1968 Glenn Hall* St. Louis Blues

1966 Roger Crozier* Detroit Red Wings

[Datsyerberger 279]

Ozzie has been phenomenal. He's my pick for MVP, actually.

But Malkin means more to the Pens. The Pens would, without question, be toast without him. The Wings could probably get by with Conklin.

I highly disagree. Hell, there were enough 1 goal games in the Ducks series that were close enough.. without the Wizard's play, eh...

[Dabura 12,232]

And yet he's a -1 and has 27 penalty minutes in the finals also. You need to look at the whole picture.

If the NHL looked at the whole picture, it wouldn't be placing all of its hopes and dreams on the shoulders of Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin.

[Dabura 12,232]

there were enough 1 goal games in the Ducks series that were close enough.. without the Wizard's play, eh...

But by the same token, without Malkin...the Pens probably don't even make the postseason. And they certainly don't advance. He's been an absolute monster for them.

[SaCkaveli20 275]

Giving the Conn Smyth to a player on the losing team, and is only a plus 2 is absurd.

[Jake Ryan 1]

I'm happy with Malkin winning EVERY other award besides the Stanley Cup. He could clean sweep all the individual awards, so long as the Wings win the TEAM award.