Zetts 236 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Sorry if this has already been posted, it's been news for a little bit but I couldn't find a thread on it. The most recent story on it, is here. Jimmy's earned a chance to get to the top," said Jim Nill, the assistant general manager of the Detroit Red Wings. "We have full confidence that Jimmy Howard's going to come in and be a goalie for the Red Wings, but he has to come in and earn that, and there's an opportunity for him to do that. And another story: http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/06/re...land_discu.html His back-up will be Jimmy Howard, a 25-year-old who has paid his dues in the American League. It doesn't seem like it's set in stone, although I certainly get the impression they're leaning strongly toward Howard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted June 24, 2009 I am very comfortable with a goaltending tandem of Osgood/Howard. I hope Ozzie can stay healthy, but I would have hoped that if we had Conklin for another year too. I watched conklin in Green Bay quite a bit - I never thought that kid would make it as far as he has. That's why I'm not a scout I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Unless I'm mistaken, Howard is out of options for the AHL. He's more or less got the backup job by default. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Unless I'm mistaken, Howard is out of options for the AHL. He's more or less got the backup job by default. That's true, but it was the same case for Quincey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 I wish I was able to make the NHL by default. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 I have not really felt confortable with Howard in net, but hopefully now that he has the chance to play for the big boys, he breaks out and proves why we have the best scouts in the world. How much cash do we save from letting Conks go and bringin in Howard? a million? That;s much needed money for the team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 I have not really felt confortable with Howard in net, but hopefully now that he has the chance to play for the big boys, he breaks out and proves why we have the best scouts in the world. How much cash do we save from letting Conks go and bringin in Howard? a million? That;s much needed money for the team Howard at 800k actually makes more than Conklin's 700k form 08/09. The Wings have been too patient with Jimmy to just trade him or lose him on waivers. He needs a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) How much cash do we save from letting Conks go and bringin in Howard? a million? That;s much needed money for the team I believe that we save 33 thousand. No jokes. Conklin was 750 000. Howard is 717 000. Edit: Zombo, where are those numbers from? Edited June 24, 2009 by Zetts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 I believe that we save 33 thousand. No jokes. Conklin was 750 000. Howard is 717 000. Edit: Zombo, where are those numbers from? My bad: 800k is Howard's 10/11 salary. 750k is correct for 09/10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMan Mark 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 It's time Howard started to shine. He has had more than enough time to "develop" in GR. He needs to be, IMO, better than a Conklin to satisfy my backup needs in training camp. I just haven't been sold on the guy yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talex 1 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Howard at 800k actually makes more than Conklin's 700k form 08/09. The Wings have been too patient with Jimmy to just trade him or lose him on waivers. He needs a shot. Watched Howard get mulled in the AHL almost every game I seen, Admirals owned him, call ups to the Wings looked no better. I wish he could get a shot... somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gizmo 21 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 I am very comfortable with a goaltending tandem of Osgood/Howard. I hope Ozzie can stay healthy, but I would have hoped that if we had Conklin for another year too. I watched conklin in Green Bay quite a bit - I never thought that kid would make it as far as he has. That's why I'm not a scout I guess. I'm no expert, but I haven't been impressed with Howard during his starts with the Wings. I think the pairing of Conklin and Osgood worked great this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 There are plenty of decent back-up goalies out there that could be had during the season in a trade. Like I said, you don't invest in 5 years of development in a player, especially a goalie, to just cut him loose. Everyone bitching about losing Quincey to waivers should be glad that Howard's getting a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 I believe that we save 33 thousand. No jokes. Conklin was 750 000. Howard is 717 000. Edit: Zombo, where are those numbers from? DAmn, Conklin was a bargain! I hope Conk shines as a starter on his new team... he's earned it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 It had to happen. I always liked Jimmy and I hope he can play like he did in Maine! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NomadFromKazoo 42 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Howard at 800k actually makes more than Conklin's 700k form 08/09. The Wings have been too patient with Jimmy to just trade him or lose him on waivers. He needs a shot. This is so untrue. We're not bringing him to Detroit to be our backup unless the PTB's think he's our best option. We let LOTS of players walk away we invest years into without giving them a shot. And even more so that we're not going to do that is we actually want our backup goaltender to play regularly. Especially with comments from Ozzie that he wasn't mentally ready to play pretty much until the playoffs this year after playing last year to June. I'm thinking they'd like the backup to play almost as much, maybe even "more" then the starter for quite a bit of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Systemfel 33 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 My bad: 800k is Howard's 10/11 salary. 750k is correct for 09/10.Year-by-year salary doesn't matter. It's the average salary that counts against the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 It's been four year's ... time for Jimmy to sink or swim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FedorovMan91 1 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 I'm no expert, but I haven't been impressed with Howard during his starts with the Wings. I think the pairing of Conklin and Osgood worked great this season. Great? Maybe horrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GORM19 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 jimmy knows its on him now by holland picking thomas mcolum in last years draft.he deserves more than 3 starts this season. you cant expect a goalie to play in 2 games a year and not be nervous everytime he plays. this year he will get 20 starts and get comfortable with the different style of hockey in the nhl and when this happens the team will get comfortable playing in front of him like they are in front of ozzy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j.hoop 64 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 i dont really feel confident in jimmy either, id be glad for him to prove me wrong as well. conklin was great and i was hoping he'd be back next year. seemed like a great guy and had, what was it 6? shutouts last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Unless I'm mistaken, Howard is out of options for the AHL. He's more or less got the backup job by default. You're correct. That's true, but it was the same case for Quincey. Not really. Quincey was low on the depth charts. He floundered in the AHL for a season, stunk up training camp, looked terrible in his most recent call-ups, and was stuck below 3 other non-roster defensemen in terms of where he sat on the depth charts. Howard represents a long 4 year investment of development. He's a former AHL all-star and a standout in 3 of his 4 AHL seasons. He's at the top of the non-roster goalie depth chart. Goalies are the most difficult players to scout and judge the development of. It's been shown over the years that goalies can skyrocket after some NHL seasoning time as a back-up. If teams abandoned their goaltending prospects after only a dozen NHL starts many of the elite goalies in the NHL would be playing on different teams, if at all. In terms of skill-set Howard has the tools to be a starting goaltender in the NHL according to scouts. All he has to do is get more consistent and get some NHL seasoning. Moreover, while Howard looked bad in his single call-up last year in front of a decimated Wings team, he looked good in his call-ups the year before (although, again he was often playing in front of a team decimated by injuries). There are plenty of decent back-up goalies out there that could be had during the season in a trade. Like I said, you don't invest in 5 years of development in a player, especially a goalie, to just cut him loose. Everyone bitching about losing Quincey to waivers should be glad that Howard's getting a shot. Bingo. And people need to chill out about Quincey- he definitely cooled off in his second half and has come back down to earth. His long-term worth has yet to be determined. Regardless- he's not better than Ericsson or Kindl, so there's no room for him here anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Kenny and Babs have confidence in him. That's enough to convince me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hocketownwest 11 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Watched Howard get mulled in the AHL almost every game I seen, Admirals owned him, call ups to the Wings looked no better. I wish he could get a shot... somewhere else. QFT Unless a miracle happens, his time with the Wings will be a short one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy Howard, the second coming of Joey MacDonald. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
