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Personal Thoughts About "Hockeytown"

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While it is a copyrighted term that was originally made for marketing purposes, the fans and media have pushed it to become a symbol. That's why it is somewhat relevant today when people argue that Detroit isn't passionate enough to have the Hockeytown moniker.

In any event, Hockeytown as a symbol represents the entire state of Michigan (as well as some nearby parts of Canada), and as such, there shouldn't be any argument against us bearing the title. Michigan claims more youth involvement in hockey organizations than anywhere in the country; there is a strong college history pertaining to hockey, including an annual collegiate tournament based around teams focused primarily around Michigan and the Cold War (which was not only a monumental occasion for college-level hockey, but for the game in general); While times are currently hard, Wings fans still make themselves heard at local bars and opponent venues (general knowlege that the Wings have the best nation-wide support). There is never a quiet night in Hockeytown Cafe, which is appropriate enough; The passion for the Wings regardless of whether corporate executives or blue-collar Andys fill the Joe tops that of the Pistons, Tigers and Lions, which cannot be said for any other state. Oh, and I suppose I should mention something about four Stanley Cups, five finals berths, countless Presidents' Trophies, and Hall of Famers that have passed through the area, but then it wouldn't be fair :)

So even if you take the "Hockeytown as a symbol" route, I still don't see any problem with it remaining with Detroit.

Spot on. You hit the nail on the head, it is not just the "Red Wings" thing.

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whether or not detroit is hockeytown may be different depending on who you ask, it really baffles me when people try to use the red wings on ice success as justification. i much prefer someone like echolalia who can give reasoning. to me its not about how many cups the wings have won. its about fan passion and support.

in a baseball example, i would argue the chicago cubs are more of 'baseballtown' than the yankees. sure the yankees are hands down the most successful team on the field, but the cubs have a fan support across the country seconded by no one. the cubs also have a strong element i feel is crucial: supportig the team when they suck.

thats why places like chicago and pittsburgh will not be able to be in the hockeytown discussion anytime soon. because just a few years ago no one cared about either team.

on a personal note, i have always liked to tell people that the reason i got into hockey was because of nhl 94 on sega. my favorite team was the red wings, so i stuck with them in real life. i have become a passionate fan over the years despite not being able to go to a game in person. as people have mentioned, the nationwide fan base goes a long way to show that the wings are a very popular team, but i don't know if that really helps make detroit, or michigan in general, hockeytown.

then again my city couldn't keep our ahl team since all our stupid fans just want to see fights. so now we get the goonishness of the ihl... fun!

/rant

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thats why places like chicago and pittsburgh will not be able to be in the hockeytown discussion anytime soon. because just a few years ago no one cared about either team.

That's not really an unusual phenomenon. The Wings weren't very popular when they were terrible either. People won't support a bad product. With the exception of football, which Amercians are ******* bonkers for, myself included.

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Okay I guess the question is if you don't think Detroit is Hockeytown, then what city is?

Nashville's arena is loud but their team still hasn't won a playoff road game ever so I wouldn't say it's them.

Pittsburgh's arena is loud but they were about to lose their team before St. Sidney came on board to save them. That is the definition of bandwagon, so I don't think it's them.

Chicago is the same. No one started caring about their team until this year. Oh and their last Stanley Cup was in 1961 so I wouldn't go with Chicago as Hockeytown.

People say Minnesota should be Hockeytown. And I agree they have a big hockey tradition there. But keep in mind they have never won a Stanley Cup ever and they lost their team the first time.

A few years ago when Buffalo won the President's Trophy Sabres fans wanted to call their city Hockeytown. But their team has gone back to being pretty average and they still have no Stanley Cup to show for it.

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no longer deserving of "Hockeytown"... it's something of the past

Until the Red Wings start playing like the St. Louis Blues, there is no "it's something of the past". 1996-2009 is the Hockeytown Dynasty, as far as I'm concerned (and yes, I know we lost to Colorado in 1996).

Easy there tiger - put down the hatorade...You don't need to rant about making drastic changes - which I never alluded to...Just that the "Hockeytown" moniker IMO is a bit dated...I'm not from Detroit (neither are you) so it may not bother me as much as those who live there, but I've been a die-hard Red Wing fan since 1984, and that alone says enough.

I'm from Toledo. That's what we do: rant.

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I don't know where I heard it, but I think it sums it up best: Hockeytown is a state of mind. Where ever you are, if you are a fan of the Red Wings, you are in Hockeytown.

Every time this topic is brought up that is how I respond screw the posers if you are a Wings fan you are a part of HOCKEY TOWN no matter were you live

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Every time this topic is brought up that is how I respond screw the posers if you are a Wings fan you are a part of HOCKEY TOWN no matter were you live

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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Every time this topic is brought up that is how I respond screw the posers if you are a Wings fan you are a part of HOCKEY TOWN no matter were you live

Kinda funny - my sons book "The ABC's of Detroit Red Wings Hockey" says the same thing :P

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People say Minnesota should be Hockeytown. And I agree they have a big hockey tradition there. But keep in mind they have never won a Stanley Cup ever and they lost their team the first time.

this is a very interesting idea,to break the tie maybe the team that has beaten both Detriot and Minnesota in the finals should be called hockeytown ?

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People say Minnesota should be Hockeytown. And I agree they have a big hockey tradition there. But keep in mind they have never won a Stanley Cup ever and they lost their team the first time.

this is a very interesting idea,to break the tie maybe the team that has beaten both Detriot and Minnesota in the finals should be called hockeytown ?

Yeah except for the fact that the Pens had no fans until a few years ago and gave away front row seats for $8. They were in danger of losing their team too.

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On the other hand, the wings are probably the most popular team in the NHL outside of detroit.. Im always amazed at the number of red wing bumper stickers/red wing flags i see here in san diego its seriously surprising to see so many wing fans in such a low hockey venue area.. And in the regular season its almost like home games when the wings visit teams like ATL/LA/TB/PHX

Interestingly enough, my friend is teaching English in Asia and she says that people in Taiwan and Thailand have asked her for her Red Wings paraphernalia. They ask me, "Where did you get that? Can I buy that from you?" Kind of cool.

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If any area is considered a plausible alternative to Detroit as Hockeytown, it's certainly not Pittsburgh.

I am willing to give them props for winning the Cup and turning around a franchise that was about to call in the moving vans, but from a cultural standpoint, football is what dominates that area.

Western Pennsylvania/Eastern Ohio is a big-time football region. In fact, it's where American football originated. It goes back to the days of the Allegheny Athletic Association.

Think of some the great players from that area like Joe Namath, Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino and Johnny Unitas, and that's just the quarterbacks! There's also the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the history and tradition of the Steelers, the terrible towels and the Steel Curtain.

I'll give the Pens their due, but there's no way that a couple of Cup Finals appearances, with one Cup, trumps the influence of football on that region.

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Just ask the girl that Big Ben raped. It's amazing how many death threats she's received. But that's dedication and loyalty at its finest.

you guys really want to jump on this and run with it huh ? I don't think too many knowledgeable people are worried about this except you haters of Pittsburgh (haters of just about everything?) and the misinformed. It's regrettable what the young lady is goning through but it's not Ben's fault.

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you guys really want to jump on this and run with it huh ? I don't think too many knowledgeable people are worried about this except you haters of Pittsburgh (haters of just about everything?) and the misinformed. It's regrettable what the young lady is goning through but it's not Ben's fault.

Knowledgeable people also know such things as only 1-2% of rape reports are false, so... It's safe to say that Big Ben is maybe a little too big for his own good.

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Knowledgeable people also know such things as only 1-2% of rape reports are false, so... It's safe to say that Big Ben is maybe a little too big for his own good.

I wonder how much that rate of 1-2% goes up when one has a lot of money to possibly pay out ?

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I wonder how much that rate of 1-2% goes up when one has a lot of money ?

440k from a guy who probably blows that out of his nose every day? While she knew that she would have a target on her back from every classless delusional idiot that likes fries on top of his sandwich? Oh but no, it's the principle of the matter.

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440k from a guy who probably blows that out of his nose every day? While she knew that she would have a target on her back from every classless delusional idiot that likes fries on top of his sandwich? Oh but no, it's the principle of the matter.

this forum is like one from hell,really. Mean,hateful,grinding of teeth etc......there's a few decent people that speak up occasionally. You guys are really pitiful creatures,you deserve each other. The cup is all that matters to you,it blinds you.

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this forum is like one from hell,really. Mean,hateful,grinding of teeth etc......there's a few decent people that speak up occasionally. You guys are really pitiful creatures,you deserve each other. The cup is all that matters to you,it blinds you.

Then why are you here?

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this forum is like one from hell,really. Mean,hateful,grinding of teeth etc......there's a few decent people that speak up occasionally. You guys are really pitiful creatures,you deserve each other. The cup is all that matters to you,it blinds you.

Aww did I hurt someone's feelings? A little too much Gerber truth for you to handle? It's ok I'm sure Gary Bettman will be here soon to make that airplane noise you guys like so much.

Right. We're the blind ones with Crosby in our saliva that go around trolling on other teams boards. We're the morons who ignore the facts on rape victims while sending death threats to women we don't know just because we can't face the fact that our golden boy isn't who we think he is. But hey, at least there's no sales tax on clothes right?

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