FunkedUp 29 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) Its no secret that the Wings have some wiggle room next season in regards to the cap, and its quite possible that the remnants of the 1990's Detroit Red Wings will be be only a memory. It's likely that Maltby and Holmstrom will be playing their last season in 09 and we could see a very different roster next season. Anyways, for some reason I can't help but wonder about the lineup to the 10-11 season, even though we haven't started the 09-10 season. I'm quite the patient fellow, eh? Anyways, I'd like to hear what you guys think about this... FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk - $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg - $6,083,333 Johan Franzen - $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula - $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary - $2,800,000 Kris Draper - $1,583,333 Ville Leino - $800,000 DEFENSEMEN Brian Rafalski - $6,000,000 Brad Stuart - $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall - $3,000,000 Jonathan Ericsson - $900,000 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood - $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard - $716,666 TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 13 PAYROLL $40,704,543 Likely Re-signings: + Forwards Darren Helm - Est. $1,500,000 Justin Abdelkader - Est. $1,500,000 + Defense Nick Lidstrom - Est. $5,000,000-$6,000,000 It's also possible that Homer and Maltby come back for another season, but I wouldn't bet on it. This is also assuming that Bert, Williams, and Eaves all bounce after their one year deals, which I think is likely. So with 9 forwards signed (including Helm and Abdelkader) and 5 defenseman including Lidstrom. Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Cleary Franzen-Filppula-? Abdelkader-Helm-Leino ?-Draper-? ? Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Ericcson-? ? Ozzie Howard Those are just sample lines, and I realize at this point its nothing but a crapshoot, but its somewhat realistic. Something I notice is the glare in our top 6. Not that it isn't strong, but it would be nice to add someone that is a pure goal scorer or someone of high caliber. Leino might be able to jump up to the 2nd line and be effective, but we won't know that for a bit. Also, our bottom line would need to be filled out. Abby might see some time here, but that would just open up slots in another line. We would also need to round out our defense... Therefore I am looking at these possible additions: FORWARDS Player Age - Team - Pos - 09/10 Cap - 09/10 Salary Kovalchuk, Ilya 27 ATL L UFA 6.400 7.500 Marleau, Patrick 30 SJS C UFA 6.300 6.300 Kariya, Paul 35 STL L UFA 6.000 6.000 Jokinen, Olli 31 CGY C UFA 5.250 5.500 Savard, Marc 32 BOS C UFA 5.000 5.000 Naslund, Markus 36 NYR L UFA 4.000 3.000 Hejduk, Milan 34 COL R UFA 3.900 4.000 Kozlov, Vyacheslav 38 ATL L UFA 3.667 3.850 Frolov, Alexander 28 LAK L UFA 2.900 4.000 Setoguchi, Devin 23 SJS R RFA 1.247 0.765 Tootoo, Jordin 27 NAS R UFA 0.975 0.975 Lucic, Milan 22 BOS L RFA 0.850 0.685 Kostitsyn, Sergei 23 MTL L RFA 0.817 0.585 Clutterbuck, Cal 22 MIN R RFA 0.726 0.623 Janssen, Cam 26 STL R RFA 0.550 0.550 DEFENSE Player Age - Team - Pos - 09/10 Cap - 09/10 Salary Coburn, Braydon 25 PHI D RFA 1.300 1.400 Letang, Kris 23 PIT D RFA 0.835 0.625 Meech, Derek 26 DET D RFA 0.483 0.500 Hjalmarsson, Niklas 23 CHI D RFA 0.643 0.666 Grossman, Nicklas 25 DAL D RFA 0.975 1.050 Colaiacovo, Carlo 27 STL D UFA 1.283 1.400 Ference, Andrew 31 BOS D UFA 1.400 1.625 Robidas, Stephane 33 DAL D UFA 1.500 1.500 Lukowich, Brad 33 SJS D UFA 1.567 1.800 Eaton, Mark 33 PIT D UFA 2.000 2.000 Keith, Duncan 26 CHI D RFA 1.475 1.900 Brookbank, Sheldon 29 ANA D UFA 0.525 0.550 Quincey, Kyle 24 LAK D RFA 0.525 0.550 Thornton, Shawn 32 BOS R UFA 0.517 0.550 Some possibilities and there's some other FA's that I haven't included. A mix of top players and role players. Some of them aren't very realistic, but that was also said about Hossa. Lots of good names out there, and I would probably give my left nut to get Kovalchuck here, but I'm not sure we can offer what Atlanta would be wanting for him at the trade dealine... Should be interesting, and I'm sure Holland has been thinking about this for a long time... Edited August 20, 2009 by FunkedUp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) Realistically I would try to bring in Frolov and then back fill with our own free agents bring back the best performers out of Holmstrom, Maltby, Eaves, Bertuzzi, Williams. On D I would do the same maybe bringing in Robidas. Most of the players listed are RFA's and I can't see us trading/stealing any of them. Edited August 20, 2009 by Booster313 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 Marleau if u could get him at the right price. I know he's never gotten over the hump in San Jose, but if you can get him at a good price i think u can see him flourish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 Frolov would be my first pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted August 20, 2009 Tootoo. I hate that kid. I'd SO love him if he were a Wing though. He has a knack for getting under everybody's skin, he can play, and he is damn tough for a midget. He plays, fights and acts bigger than he is. I like that kind of swagger, I think it's good for the team. ....unless the team is as hopeless as Nashville is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedUp 29 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Tootoo. I hate that kid. I'd SO love him if he were a Wing though. He has a knack for getting under everybody's skin, he can play, and he is damn tough for a midget. He plays, fights and acts bigger than he is. I like that kind of swagger, I think it's good for the team. ....unless the team is as hopeless as Nashville is. Everyone hates him here, but I know that if he did come to the Wings then he would become a fan favorite immediately. I don't think Nashville lets him go though. He's literally their poster boy over there and it wouldn't be a good decision for them. Sometimes I wish that there was no cap. We would be adding guys like Kovalchuck, Lucic, and Keith during the deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 If Lids signs for 5.5M, and Abby and Helm take 1.5M each, that leaves the Wings about 6.5M (depending on where the cap will be) to fill in the remaining 4-5 spots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) I would take Tootoo in a second, as well. Frolov would be a great acquisition as well. Defense and goaltending may be a priority at that time, however. Edited August 21, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 1. Re-sign Nick. :beerbuddy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunkylover 26 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 If Lids signs for 5.5M, and Abby and Helm take 1.5M each, that leaves the Wings about 6.5M (depending on where the cap will be) to fill in the remaining 4-5 spots. That certainly kills any hope of adding Kovalchuk. Plus I'd rather sign him after the season (if possible) than at the deadline. I hate trading away assets. I can see Holland going after Quincey just because that's how he seems to do things lately. I'd like Kariya and it's probably more likely that the Wings would sign him than Coburn, Lucic, or Savard who are vital to their respective teams current and future success. I wouldn't hate Tootoo. I hope Leino can find his way into the top six, that would make it easier (cheaper) to fill the other roster gaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Milan LuÄić Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 FIrst, if Lidstrom wants to play he's back 100%. SEcondly I find it really hard to believe that Helm and Abdelkader would get $1.5 each. That would be a significant raise for Helm and it really depends on what role he falls into on the team this year. WIth ABdelkader most likely spending the majority of the year in GR I doubt we see him get that much as well. I think they'd both get around $1M Personally I'd like to see Frolov here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Oh and I doubt Eaves leaves. He'll be an RFA and at worst I think he'd get resigned to a 500k deal. One year isn't always enough to fully turn it around. Look at Cleary's first year here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted August 21, 2009 I suspect Lucic will retire as a Bruin. They love him and he jost looks right in that sweater. He's everything the Bruins are supposed to be about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Oh and I doubt Eaves leaves. He'll be an RFA and at worst I think he'd get resigned to a 500k deal. One year isn't always enough to fully turn it around. Look at Cleary's first year here He's signed as an RFA?? Well that changes everything! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommingthepuck96 1 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Being stuck in southern california, i get to see a whole lot of frolov, and have been dreaming about him wearing a winged wheel for years. I hope holland makes a pitch for him for around 3.9-4.4 Mil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 He's signed as an RFA?? Well that changes everything! not sure if that's sarcasm or not but I wasnt saying that guarenteed Eaves would be on the roster beyond this year. I'm just saying that as an RFA Detroit coudl retain his rights, put him in GR, or trade him away. I doubt they'd walk away from him even if he doesnt work out at all on the NHL roster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 If Lids signs for 5.5M, and Abby and Helm take 1.5M each, that leaves the Wings about 6.5M (depending on where the cap will be) to fill in the remaining 4-5 spots. No way Helm costs 1.5M. 1M is more realistic for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if Holland got him for 900k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Everyone hates him here, but I know that if he did come to the Wings then he would become a fan favorite immediately. I don't think Nashville lets him go though. He's literally their poster boy over there and it wouldn't be a good decision for them. Sometimes I wish that there was no cap. We would be adding guys like Kovalchuck, Lucic, and Keith during the deadline. Lucic and Keith would never, ever get traded at the deadline-- their parent clubs aren't sellers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 No way Helm costs 1.5M. 1M is more realistic for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if Holland got him for 900k. I agree. If anything I think we'd see Abdelkader and Helm sign similar deals to that of Leino this year. 800k/yr over a couple seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 I agree. If anything I think we'd see Abdelkader and Helm sign similar deals to that of Leino this year. 800k/yr over a couple seasons. Yup. Abs won't be in a position to demand much given how many games he'll be playing in GR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Yup. Abs won't be in a position to demand much given how many games he'll be playing in GR. Exactly. Plus you've got to figure Williams/Bertuzzi wont be back. So money wise we're in solid shape I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Exactly. Plus you've got to figure Williams/Bertuzzi wont be back. So money wise we're in solid shape I think Oh yeah, especially since Lids will likely take 1-2 million less a year and Holmstrom is almost certainly gone or at least playing for peanuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted August 21, 2009 Oh yeah, especially since Lids will likely take 1-2 million less a year and Holmstrom is almost certainly gone or at least playing for peanuts. I will be throwing peanut shells on the ice if Homer is on the roster next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 21, 2009 I will be throwing peanut shells on the ice if Homer is on the roster next year. Even though I definitely wouldnt be surprised to see Holmstrom retire after this year I realyl think he still cuold serve a purpose on a one year deal at $1M bucks. At that point he'd be playing for the lvoe of it, not for money so he could possibily even take a chelios type deal of 800k. I wouldnt turn my back on Holstrom for the 2010-11 season for 800k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
