uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Many top heavyweights haven't been KO'd. Actually, Probert is the only guy in my top 10 that has been KO'd, now that I think about it. We'll see about that...lay out your top 10 and we'll see who knows what Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 We'll see about that...lay out your top 10 and we'll see who knows what Behn Wilson, Bob Probert, Dave Brown, Joey Kocur, Clark Gillies, Larry Playfair, Bob Nystrom, Nick Fotiu, Donald Brashear, Tie Domi There's my top 10 in order, and Probert is the only guy on that list who got KO'd, when Ewen dropped him. That doesn't diminish him in my book, but it is rather odd that none of the other top heavies ever got dropped that badly. There have been several TKO's, like most recently Belak on Brashear, but not a KO in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Nobody asked, but.... Micah's top 5, after that it gets hazy: Dave Brown, Bob Probert, Behn Wilson, Brash, Laraque. Not in any order, because I really can't decide if Brashear and Laraque should be ranked above Probie, Brown and (distant 3rd) Wilson. In their primes, I suspect Brashear and Laraque (and probably Simon too) would chew up and spit out Probert and Brown - but Probert and Brown were so much more fun. My favorite toughs were Probie, Brown, Neely, Semenko and PJ Stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 please kenny sign him, may not be the most skilled but come playoff time we could use an enforcer like him Really? I wouldn't mind some more toughness during the regular season, but the playoffs are definitely not the time the Red Wings need an enforcer. Those "soft" Red Wings were one game away from repeating and the only thing stopping them was injuries. Having an enforcer wouldn't have made a lick of difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Nobody asked, but.... Micah's top 5, after that it gets hazy: Dave Brown, Bob Probert, Behn Wilson, Brash, Laraque. Not in any order, because I really can't decide if Brashear and Laraque should be ranked above Probie, Brown and (distant 3rd) Wilson. In their primes, I suspect Brashear and Laraque (and probably Simon too) would chew up and spit out Probert and Brown - but Probert and Brown were so much more fun. My favorite toughs were Probie, Brown, Neely, Semenko and PJ Stock. Our top 3 is similar. I hesitate with Brashear and Laraque, because they're huggers more than fighters. If they fought to win the way those older heavies did, they would have a lot more losses. For instance, last year Brashear seemed to open up his fighting style, and finally got caught. I still put him on my list, but fighting to win and fighting not to lose are two different things. I'm sure if Probie wanted to, he could hug a guy to death too. Wilson would be the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Behn Wilson, Bob Probert, Dave Brown, Joey Kocur, Clark Gillies, Larry Playfair, Bob Nystrom, Nick Fotiu, Donald Brashear, Tie Domi There's my top 10 in order, and Probert is the only guy on that list who got KO'd, when Ewen dropped him. That doesn't diminish him in my book, but it is rather odd that none of the other top heavies ever got dropped that badly. There have been several TKO's, like most recently Belak on Brashear, but not a KO in my book. It wasn't a one punch but last year Brashear got KO'd by Belak, so I guess that 2 on your list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 It wasn't a one punch but last year Brashear got KO'd by Belak, so I guess that 2 on your list. TKO, not KO. Brashear got back up rather quickly. I mentioned it in my post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Behn Wilson, Bob Probert, Dave Brown, Joey Kocur, Clark Gillies, Larry Playfair, Bob Nystrom, Nick Fotiu, Donald Brashear, Tie Domi There's my top 10 in order, and Probert is the only guy on that list who got KO'd, when Ewen dropped him. That doesn't diminish him in my book, but it is rather odd that none of the other top heavies ever got dropped that badly. There have been several TKO's, like most recently Belak on Brashear, but not a KO in my book. Joey Kocur got KO'd here for a good 10 or 15 seconds Brashear was helped to the penalty box and received medical attention afterwards so its definately a KO As for the rest...touché. Although as most of them are fighters from the 70's and 80's alot of their fights are without footage so you never know And why isnt Andreas Lilja in your top 10? He got KO'd pretty good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 If you go on dropyourgloves.com, you'll see lots of video footage of every guy on my list. Those guys fought in the toughest era in hockey in my opinion, and had tremendous win/loss records. Domi probably has the worst win/loss record on that list (although his was good), but with so many fights and constantly being undersized in each one, I had to put him on the list. I forgot the Raglan/Kocur fight, but like I said, I was going off the top of my head. I still don't think Brashear was KO'd, but some people seem to think otherwise. Lilja has trouble finding takers, which prevented him from being on my list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Every regular hockey fighter yes. Go ahead and continue trying to argue about a subject you are clearly lacking in knowledge of.... not like boulrice did... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) Boulerice was a crap fighter too, look at the mistake he made... not like boulrice did... wait for it... Edited September 23, 2009 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Downey got KO'd twice in a row with St Louis. Not his best times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Once again, that was a TKO and not a KO. Downey got back up too quickly for it to be a KO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Whats happened to DYG? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Once again, that was a TKO and not a KO. Downey got back up too quickly for it to be a KO. since we're talking about hockey fights, does it really matter? The point is a lot of enforcers have taken one on the button. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 since we're talking about hockey fights, does it really matter? The point is a lot of enforcers have taken one on the button. Crazed fight fans obsess over these differences. Not that I'm one of them, of course, but if you ever go on the hockeyfights website, these things get analyzed at nausea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 No wonder that team hasn't made the playoffs in seven years. Kenny... do the right thing. Sign Downey, cut Williams, call it a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 please kenny sign him, may not be the most skilled but come playoff time we could use an enforcer like him Like we used him in our last 2 cup runs? 0 Games Played if i recall correctly. Get over it, he wont be back here - Holland cut him because we didn't have any use for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites