Players That Are Wasting Space

[topsideplaya 0]

It is kind of annoying that the only defenseman who plays physical is Stuart.

[Dano33 41]

so we lost in OT... that means we get another point!!! who the f*** cares what happens as long as we get a point a two out of some games this first season.... Ozzie always steps it up in the playoffs when he knows it really matters. This s*** right now is just tedious childs play. I betcha if howard had been in we wouldn't have even got a point. so lets just take our point and move on. 82pts is pretty damn good and most likely would put us in the the top 8

Nope, and its really not close. Since the lockout the lowest point total by a team that made the playoffs is 91. Last year Dallas finished 12th in the west with 83 points.

[Doc Holiday 0]

really when? He's had about 1 good game so far. Besides I know he's' been much better in the playoffs but how the f*** are we going to make the playoffs if Ozzy plays like absolute s***, and we aren't even willing to try a back up.

Of course, if you only watch the highlights and focus on the saves he didn't make, he is going to look bad no matter what.

However before Phoenix's powerplay goal, the Wings were penned in their own zone for at least five minutes, forcing Osgood to take the brunt of the responsibility. Sure he shouldn't have let that OT goal in, but the problem is he was let down by the team in front of him. Lebda in particular.

And absolute s***? He let in 3 goals in 60+ minutes of play. One which was debatable.

Also Chicago, LA, and Washington HAVE been great games for him, especially considering the kind of saves he made in that Washington game.

[ben_usmc 253]

Of course, if you only watch the highlights and focus on the saves he didn't make, he is going to look bad no matter what.

However before Phoenix's powerplay goal, the Wings were penned in their own zone for at least five minutes, forcing Osgood to take the brunt of the responsibility. Sure he shouldn't have let that OT goal in, but the problem is he was let down by the team in front of him. Lebda in particular.

And absolute s***? He let in 3 goals in 60+ minutes of play. One which was debatable.

Also Chicago, LA, and Washington HAVE been great games for him, especially considering the kind of saves he made in that Washington game.

you make it sound as if 3 goals is good for 60+ min of hockey, it also isn't always about the GAA or % (as a Wings fan you should know this more then most) it's about the type of saves, that are made.

So once again I think Ozzy has only played one very good game this season, you aren't going to change my mind so why bother arguing that with me.

[hokike 1]

all this thread is waisting the space. God thanks that none of LGW members is not even close to make NHL related decisions.

Hint: there is no quickfixes, it takes two to make a trade and cap space is extremely limited.Also minor leaguers aren't saviors. Got it?

Ppl are so used with "fair weather" that it is for them strange to see rocky path and therefore they see "ghosts" everywhere and panick easely.

Edited October 23, 2009 by hokike

[Doc Holiday 0]

you make it sound as if 3 goals is good for 60+ min of hockey, it also isn't always about the GAA or % (as a Wings fan you should know this more then most) it's about the type of saves, that are made.

So once again I think Ozzy has only played one very good game this season, you aren't going to change my mind so why bother arguing that with me.

If you are here to just give your opinion without anyone disagreeing, then why don't you start a blog, or write a diary? I guarantee you nobody is going to oppose you there.

The entire point of an internet forum is to discuss opposing viewpoints on specific issues and topics. If you don't want to do that then just walk away from the discussion.

And with the GAA, you missed my point. 3-4 GAA is borderline abysmal. Osgood had a sub 3 GAA and made some great saves in the first period, also getting screwed by a borderline goal call from the ref and his own players pushing him into the net.

Osgood did not have an abysmal game.

[dat's sick 1,002]

Missing the playoffs would be a wake up call for this team and would give Holland/Illitch incentive to finally cut the fat and get rid of players that should have been moved two or three years ago.

Finishing 1st and winning the cup is better imo than missing the playoffs and getting a "wake up call". But that's just me. I guess they call me a "fan", but you wouldn't know anything about that I guess.

[Guest mindfly]

dat's sick: Open up your eyes, that aint happening, it would actually be good to have a real off year so changes will be made and finish in the bottom to get a 1-5th overall pick...

Taylor Hall would be sweet in detroit

[Doc Holiday 0]

dat's sick: Open up your eyes, that aint happening, it would actually be good to have a real off year so changes will be made and finish in the bottom to get a 1-5th overall pick...

Taylor Hall would be sweet in detroit

Stupidest idea I've heard yet.

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

Stupidest idea I've heard yet.

I suppose that's the reason they don't intentionally tank the entire season. The still try for the wins. Getting one is a little tough, but they still try.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Which players do you guys think there wasting space on the roster? Why and who would you replace them by?

My pick is Maltby ... why? ... 10 mins of play tonight 4 mins of penalty. His old time to retire bud. (Replace ... Helm Adkel Eaves ... etc.)

LEBDA MUST GO ... why? ... Do i really need to explain? (Replace with Kindl)

Kindl's far, far, far worse than Lebda defensively. FAR worse. FAR. F. A. R.

[Kwame_Kilpatrick 0]

the most annoying players for me are williams, and bertuzzi. i am less annoyed with maltby because he is kinda a historic player for us and i like him but bertuzzi i have never liked and he and williams were both a waste of free agent money. hopefully when lidstrom retires we can buy another great player- i would get nicklas backstrom from washington i think he will be the best player in the world

[BeeRYCE 2]

Stupidest idea I've heard yet.

A team like Detroit, yeah that's a stupid idea to tank a season. But teams like Toronto, Isles, Florida, Minnesota... Teams like that doing poorly now... If they tank the season, anyone of them could have a significant impact next season with the addition of Taylor Hall alone. The kid is THAT good.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Toronto

Not so fast, Brian Burke would like to have a word with you.

[BeeRYCE 2]

Not so fast, Brian Burke would like to have a word with you.

Oh yeah, lol... I forgot hahaha.

[dat's sick 1,002]

A team like Detroit, yeah that's a stupid idea to tank a season. But teams like Toronto, Isles, Florida, Minnesota... Teams like that doing poorly now... If they tank the season, anyone of them could have a significant impact next season with the addition of Taylor Hall alone. The kid is THAT good.

It's like this every year.. always some hot young prospect who is the "next one". Sometimes they do become superstars right away, but most of these prospects are not ready to carry an NHL team by their own right from the get-go. Even a Crosby or Ovechkin doesn't do all that much difference if you don't have guys like Staal, Malkin, Fleury, Backstrom and Semin to help them out.

and anyone (mindfly) who thinks the Wings will be anywhere near a top 5, let alone a top 10 pick in next year's draft is out of their mind. anyone who actively WANTS them to do badly to get a high draft pick needs to go "cheer" for another team. I hear the Leafs are looking like a real contender for that #1 pick. The Wings have the longest playoff streak in pro sports, I say let's keep that going. Once there anything can happen.

[Carman 387]

Well thing is Hall is a prospect on the level of Crosby/Ovechkin in which there hasn't been in the last couple years, the kid is the real deal and would of easily went before Tavares this year if he went in the draft and there is no European player that I'm aware of at the moment that's better then him either. I've been watching Hall play for the last couple seasons and he has the size, skill, and vision that would translate very well immediately into the NHL, if only the Wing's could get him without losing much else on there team they would be a Stanley Cup contender for the next 10 years. /drool...

[soonboomer 31]

When was the last time that 8 games into a season you could look at the standings and not see the Wings in the playoff 8? But in all seriousness, with Franzen out, the offensive potential on this team is the worst it's been in many years. There will never be a comfortable moment for the rest of the season.......a time when you'll confidently feel you're a fan of the team that "should always win". Fact is that Z and Dats both have to have near career years for this team to win it all.....if they don't, then we're exactly what the record shows........a 500 team. It was bound to happen sooner or later. Parity and the salary cap have made and will continue to make this an interesting year for all of us.

[Kwame_Kilpatrick 0]

we have players who can take over filpulla can be world class you just have to believe in him

[Kwame_Kilpatrick 0]

btw one day hopefully we can get nicklas backstrom

[soonboomer 31]

we have players who can take over filpulla can be world class you just have to believe in him

Really? After three years in the league Ive yet to see anything like that. He should be a good player for a long time, but his ceiling is probably not that high.

[Stevie Y Datsyuk 2]

The thing that stands out the most IMO is our overall team speed/sluggish play. I think as fans we are going to have to be patient this season.

The following players will be UFA's at the end of this season:

Lidstrom

Holmstrom

Maltby

Bertuzzi

Williams

Lebda

Lilja

The following player will have his NTC removed at the end of this season:

Brad Stuart

With all that said, Lidstrom is the only guy we should definitely resign.

In theory, we could be looking at the following lineup next season...

Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Cleary

Franzen, Filppula, FA not named Todd Bertuzzi

Leino, Helm, FA not named Jason Williams

Abdelkader, Draper, Eaves

Lidstrom, Rafalski

Kronwall, Someone not named Brad Stuart

Ericsson, FA not named Brett Lebda

Osgood

Howard

In conclusion: I can not wait for the off season

[DMAC 25 18]

1. Osgood. Yikes enough said.

2. Lebda. He just = fail.

3. Our defense. Fancy passers, but no one can actually play defense.

lidstrom?

[Pucks 66]

lidstrom?

Obviously Lidstrom is still one of the best in the league. He has looked very easy to play against so far this season. The speed of the game

seems to be forcing him to make quicker than normal decisions. The game always seemed to slow down whenever Lidstrom had the puck. I haven't seen that this year at even strength. I'm sure that will change.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

If you are here to just give your opinion without anyone disagreeing, then why don't you start a blog, or write a diary? I guarantee you nobody is going to oppose you there.

The entire point of an internet forum is to discuss opposing viewpoints on specific issues and topics. If you don't want to do that then just walk away from the discussion.

And with the GAA, you missed my point. 3-4 GAA is borderline abysmal. Osgood had a sub 3 GAA and made some great saves in the first period, also getting screwed by a borderline goal call from the ref and his own players pushing him into the net.

Osgood did not have an abysmal game.

Ozzie definately is not to blame for the loss to PHX. Sure, the overtime goal made me *facepalm*, but he kept them in the game with several key saves while his team looked like they were busy placing orders for post-game babyback ribs.