Ovie Fined

[Guest Four]

The fine comes one day after Anaheim's Evgeni Artyukhin was suspended three games by the League for slew-footing defenseman Matt Niskanen of the Dallas Stars, though no penalty was called on the play. The Ducks' right wing, who loses $34,756.11 in salary, will miss Saturday's game against Columbus, Monday's game against Toronto, and an Oct. 30 contest against Vancouver.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=503265

Video:

http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=49489

Really? More of a hit than anything

[CenterIce 83]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=503265

Video:

http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=49489

Really? More of a hit than anything

No way to tell from that video. There is a player in the way.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Yeah, I can't call that anything other than a hit based on that video. Weird.

[Crashnburnluder 385]

That is a basic definition of a slew foot... I love ovie... but def. a slew.... Elbow in front foot behind the leg... lol

[Z and D for the C 712]

Wasn't a player just suspended for doing the same thing?

[Echolalia 2,961]

Yeah this is definitely a biased move. Artyukhin just slew-footed a guy and got suspended, but Ovie does it and gets fined.

[sibiriak 84]

The more I watch the hit, the more I think that there was no slewfooting, not even tripping. Peverley falls ahead of OV's leg, not over it as one would expect in a case of a trip. It looked like a penalty to the refs at game speed, and I can't really fault them for making that call, but in slow motion it looks like a shoulder to shoulder struggle which OV won. His forward leg looks incidental, and Peverly falls in the direction where he is pushed by OV's shoulder rather than back over his (supposedly slew-footing) leg. It seems to me that OV's left hip may have made contact and cause Peverly to lose balance this way. Wasn't suspension worthy, IMO.

[Carman 387]

OV tends to leave his leg behind a lot when he follows through. I remember the Gonchar hit last year, and a couple other instances. I don't think he does it purposely, but he has to watch it now as he'll be a repeat offender.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Looks like a pretty clear slew foot to me. He's got his leg behind the other players and then knocks his upper body backwards.

Not as dangerous as Artyukhin's, but still a slew foot. I like Ovechkin, but he's racking up a fair number of questionable incidents in his short career. He plays with reckless abandon that sometimes leads to dangerous plays.

[dat's sick 1,002]

Atleast he didn't skip any media events. That's a REAL suspendable offense. Who cares if someone goes around slewfooting players.. let'em.

[XxGoWingsxX 0]

yeah...that looked more incidental than anything. at least he didn't get the suspension that artchukyin got...or however u spell it lol. Thing is, I see plays like this every game. Why is the NHL getting so anal about slew-footing all of a sudden when things like this have always gone on?

[Doc Holiday 0]

Yeah this is definitely a biased move. Artyukhin just slew-footed a guy and got suspended, but Ovie does it and gets fined.

And Yzerman has done it without any kind of discipline.

[XxGoWingsxX 0]

Yeah this is definitely a biased move. Artyukhin just slew-footed a guy and got suspended, but Ovie does it and gets fined.

The only reason he WASN'T suspended and artchukyin or however u spell it was, is because art....is a repeat offended with this, ovie isn't

[Echolalia 2,961]

The only reason he WASN'T suspended and artchukyin or however u spell it was, is because art....is a repeat offended with this, ovie isn't

I can buy this, but like someone else said, these type of incidents seem to be occurring fairly regularly with Ovie.

[Doc Holiday 0]

I can buy this, but like someone else said, these type of incidents seem to be occurring fairly regularly with Ovie.

Ovechkin has had one hit which was cheap, and that was on Briere.

His knee on knee with Gonchar was not malicious, and I don't remember seeing any other plays that people would want to suspend him for.

[XxGoWingsxX 0]

Ovechkin has had one hit which was cheap, and that was on Briere.

His knee on knee with Gonchar was not malicious, and I don't remember seeing any other plays that people would want to suspend him for.

I dunno, that hit (knee to knee) on gonchar looked like an accident but then again it also looked like ovie could have pulled his leg back in to not make contact. I wouldn't definitely say he did it on purpose though.

[Guest Shoreline]

If you look at Ovechkin when he puts his shoulder into Peverley his left leg was behind him and not on the ice and needed to be out, and on the ice, to balance himself from falling back and on his own ass from the hit. Nonetheless it causes the opponent to be tripped, and turns into a not-so-legitimate hit. I'm not even sure a fine was necessary here, but I can certainly see why there was a penalty.

Edited October 24, 2009 by Shoreline

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Ovechkin has had one hit which was cheap, and that was on Briere.

His knee on knee with Gonchar was not malicious, and I don't remember seeing any other plays that people would want to suspend him for.

Gonchar, Briere, Heward, Brown and now Peverly.

They may not have been malicious, but they were reckless and could've led to seriously injury. That's a fair amount of questionable incidents for just starting his 5th season.

And honestly I think this latest one is the least dangerous of the bunch.

I really like Ovechkin, but he further embarrasses himself with the way he acts after the Brown hit.

Edited October 24, 2009 by haroldsnepsts

[Doc Holiday 0]

Gonchar,

Illegal but not malicious. The majority of it happened becasue Gonchar tried to get out of the way and left his leg out there while Ovechkin's knee wasn't even outstretched.

Briere,

Yes.

Heward,

Not malicious. Ovechkin was as worried as everyone else when he was laying there.

Brown

Diving is not malicious.

and now Peverly.

Yes.

They may not have been malicious, but they were reckless and could've led to seriously injury. That's a fair amount of questionable incidents for just starting his 5th season.

That's what happens when you hit everything with the puck. Also, malicious intent is a big deal, because if a player has the intent to hurt other players (Pronger) they should be dealt with much more harshly than players who are very aggressive, but don't attempt to injure other players. Scott Stevens was a similar way. Didn't try to hurt players. He tried to commit destructive body checks. Doesn't mean he should be suspended for it.

[Guest Shoreline]

The labeling of this being dangerous is ridiculous as it's a hard hockey play that really couldn't be shown to have been a slew foot or intentional in the slightest. There's no way Ovechkin sticks his leg out as leverage to slew foot Peverley as it wasn't even in position to slew foot him. In Artyukhin's hit, his foot that was behind Niskanen was on the ice the whole time and in position to be swung and slew foot him. Now that I've seen both hits, it's clear this Ovechkin incident is just a "message" fine about players being tripped up and nothing more. Some are taking this as an opportunity to bash Ovechkin and it's pretty funny.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Illegal but not malicious. The majority of it happened becasue Gonchar tried to get out of the way and left his leg out there while Ovechkin's knee wasn't even outstretched.

Yes.

Not malicious. Ovechkin was as worried as everyone else when he was laying there.

Diving is not malicious.

Yes.

That's what happens when you hit everything with the puck. Also, malicious intent is a big deal, because if a player has the intent to hurt other players (Pronger) they should be dealt with much more harshly than players who are very aggressive, but don't attempt to injure other players. Scott Stevens was a similar way. Didn't try to hurt players. He tried to commit destructive body checks. Doesn't mean he should be suspended for it.

He clobbered Brown when he was nowhere near the puck. He blindsided him. That's a dangerous play.

Malicious sure makes it worse, but when a player has a pattern of reckless behavior that endangers others, it's still suspension worthy.

If you don't control your stick and swing it all over the place, it may not have been malicious but you're still responsible for knocking a guy's teeth out.

I really do like AO as a player, but he's racking up too many of these in his career already. He plays on the edge, but needs to take a baby step back.

[Doc Holiday 0]

He clobbered Brown when he was nowhere near the puck. He blindsided him. That's a dangerous play.

Malicious sure makes it worse, but when a player has a pattern of reckless behavior that endangers others, it's still suspension worthy.

If you don't control your stick and swing it all over the place, it may not have been malicious but you're still responsible for knocking a guy's teeth out.

I really do like AO as a player, but he's racking up too many of these in his career already. He plays on the edge, but needs to take a baby step back.

But you don't get suspended for accidentally hitting someone in the face with your stick. You get a penalty for it.

You get suspended when you use that stick and purposely aim for someone's face or head or neck with it.

[Guest Shoreline]

But you don't get suspended for accidentally hitting someone in the face with your stick. You get a penalty for it.

You get suspended when you use that stick and purposely aim for someone's face or head or neck with it.

Yep. I have no idea what message the league was trying to send here. Don't commit penalties or risk suspension?

[Nhurdi 42]

Yeah this is definitely a biased move. Artyukhin just slew-footed a guy and got suspended, but Ovie does it and gets fined.

I think the difference there was Artyukhin is a repeat offender while this is Ovies first slap on the wrist. So if he does it again then he will be suspended. At least this is what the analysts at TSN state. There is a video on it with them blabing about it.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

But you don't get suspended for accidentally hitting someone in the face with your stick. You get a penalty for it.

You get suspended when you use that stick and purposely aim for someone's face or head or neck with it.

I can't tell if you just like arguing or you're blinded by your love for AO.

When you repeatedly hit guys in ways that put them in dangerous positions, you're eventually gonna get fined/suspended for it.

Like I said, this was the least of the bunch, but Ovechkin's zeal for hitting sometimes crosses over into a lack of respect for his fellow players.