crosby fights

[thedisappearer 291]

If Ovechkin had beat them in the SCF's they would hate him almost as much.

This is incorrect. You over hype your man even when it comes to hating him.

[Tommy_Like_Wingy 25]

Um, Zidlicky didnt throw a punch until the refs had already broken it up, and had his jersey over his head. Crosby was feeding him, I'm disappointed they broke it up, Crosby's growing as a player, he can kill penalties now, he fights every once and a while, and he's still a top 3 player in the league, incredible.

This.

Hate on Crosby all you guys want but in no way were they "protecting" him. Crosby had Zidlicky at his mercy and the refs jumped in when they saw an opportunity...which is what they're supposed to do. I respect any captain/MVP of a team who are willing to drop the gloves and get their team fired up when they're down.

[jollymania 162]

[Drake_Marcus 890]

They were protecting that soft Euro that slew footed the most complete player in the league. Not to mention Zidlicky wasn't wearing a fight strap and was put into a vulnerable posistion by Crosby because of it. And if you think Crosby lost that fight then you have a lot bigger issues then your completely skewed views on Crosby. By no means is Crosby a good fighter, but he did win that fight.

Datsyuk got slew footed by Zidlicky? Or are you talking about Zetterberg? I guess you could mean Richards, if in a bit misguided way since Datsyuk is still better than him.

I agree that Crosby won the fight, though. They most likely broke it up because the fight strap was off and Zidlicky was in a vulnerable spot at that point.

[Viking_Erection 1]

Haha, they look like a couple of homos trying to rip each other's clothes off.

EDIT: Does it look like Crosby is taking it in the rear from the ref behind him? Lol.

Edited November 2, 2009 by Viking_Erection

[Drake_Marcus 890]

When I say most complete player in the game, it was mostly a sarcastic comment to the OP for saying that a referee broke up the fight to protect Crosby which is about as ridicioulous as my statement.

Anyways I think you underrate Backstrom/Semin. Penguins' top 6 is about equal as the Capitals' top 6, but Penguins' have a better 3rd and 4th line.

+/- is not a very telling defensive stat in my opinion. If it was the Selke/Norris would be solely based on it. Ovechkin really only hits on the forecheck, which is important part of the game, and defensively I suppose, but once the puck is in his zone he is practically only responsible for a D-man, and breakout and that's it. Where as Crosby has to be the 3rd defenseman and win battles below the net, cover people in front of the net, anticipate cycles, battle clearing the front of the net, not to mention is required to be high in the offensive zone as well as be a integral role in the breakout. There is a lot more then just stats that have to do with defensive play, most of which can only really be understood through watching games(not saying you don't).

I'm just one to pick a franchise center over a franchise winger any day of the week. And before anyone says Malkin>Crosby, I'm not going to argue with them, I just think Crosby is more consistent for the most part.

In other news, I'm starting to ramble it's getting late, good night everyone and don't dream about running Crosby over with your car too much:P.

Crosby is average defensively. He's certainly not significantly better than Ovechkin defensively he just plays a position that's slightly more defensively demanding-- centre. To say that Crosby is considered an above average defensive player is absurd. They experiment with him on the PK and he gets a bit of PK time, yeah, but never in critical situations and no one would call Crosby one of the Pens' go-to guys on the PK. Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Richards, Nash, those are complete players. Crosby is a brilliant offensive player who's not a liability in his own end. Nothing more.

Crosby's not out there shutting down the other team's defensive players. I know people who picked him in the Sid/Ovi battle back in the day like to imagine this is the case just to help their wounded pride, but the fact remains that in 75% of their seasons in the league Ovechkin outshone Crosby. Crosby was better one season. This season? Ovi is still superior.

Hell, Crosby isn't even an effective physical player like Ovechkin is.

How can Crosby be the best player if he's not even the best player on his own team?

Malkin, on the other hand, showed some defensive talent in game 7 of the finals. He was very strong out there holding the 1 goal lead.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Some of the blind Crsoby hatred on this board is a little out of hand. I'm no real fan of his, he's certainly not the best player in the league, and he's not even the best player on his team, but he's one of the best players in the league. He's not ever going to be the big time goal scorer that was hoped, but he's a great playmaker, the rest of his game gets better each year, and if his career continues at this rate, he will be a hhofer. And honestly, its not his fault he's overrated.

I think you'll find that there's a big difference between "hate" and "dislike as a personality/media-entity but respect as a hockey player".

People here like grouping their opponent into the category of "hater" or "blind lover" because it makes it easier for them to rationalize ignoring the points of the other side.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

That one has been the most impressive of Crosby's 'fights'. It was textbook! Fed him some shots, jerseyed him, fed him so more shots. The refs should have let them go a while longer, it looked like a good one!

[Yzerfan1999 81]

The refs break it up as soon as Zidlicky starts getting off punches i wonder why? to pretect the leagues golden child maybe?

And As for the OP, this is a pathetic attempt at a jab towards Crosby and the league - the refs were protecting ZIDLICKY because he was defenseless after Crosby got the jersey over his face - Zidlicky had no idea what he was doing anymore, evident by his wild punches at the back of the linesman.

Look, I am no Crosby lover - but lets get serious, he kicked Zidlickys ass, and it would have been worse if the refs didnt step in.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Haha, they look like a couple of homos trying to rip each other's clothes off.

EDIT: Does it look like Crosby is taking it in the rear from the ref behind him? Lol.

Your post says much more about you than it does about Crosby or that picture.

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

Gotta tell ya...Zidlicky was about to get his ass handed to him. Got jerseyed then got owned. I can't stand Crosby, especially when he grows his playoff molestache, but he was going to win that one by a huge margin. The refs did a good job of breaking up the fight at the right time. Zidlicky was in a vulnerable spot, thanks to Sid the f***stick, and that is when they should break it up.

[Konnan511 1,736]

Wow, so much Crosby jealous on this board...

I can't stand him as a "leader", but damn he is a phenominal hockey player. He also kicked Zidlicky's ass. The refs were trying to stop it as soon as it started, I don't see how someone can say they only stopped it when Zidlicky started getting punches it.

Good fight, i wish some of our better players would stand up for themselves, but I guess that is why we have May.

[Konnan511 1,736]

Your post says much more about you than it does about Crosby or that picture.

Hahahaha, awesome.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Wow, so much Crosby jealous on this board...

I can't stand him as a "leader", but damn he is a phenominal hockey player. He also kicked Zidlicky's ass. The refs were trying to stop it as soon as it started, I don't see how someone can say they only stopped it when Zidlicky started getting punches it.

Good fight, i wish some of our better players would stand up for themselves, but I guess that is why we have May.

While I aplaud Crosby for standing up for himself and doing it well, as a Wings fan the last thing I want Datsyuk or Zetterberg's hands doing is hitting the faces of other players. If a guy like May hurts his hand/wrist/shoulder/face/brain fighting it sucks. If Datsyuk or Zetterberg hurt themselves fighting it's a huge blow to the organization, in some cases a crippling blow (concussions being a nagging concern that no one wants their star players to have to deal with).

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

While I aplaud Crosby for standing up for himself and doing it well, as a Wings fan the last thing I want Datsyuk or Zetterberg's hands doing is hitting the faces of other players. If a guy like May hurts his hand/wrist/shoulder/face/brain fighting it sucks. If Datsyuk or Zetterberg hurt themselves fighting it's a huge blow to the organization, in some cases a crippling blow (concussions being a nagging concern that no one wants their star players to have to deal with).

I gotta agree with Crossed-Arms Guy. There's a reason certain players are known as fighters or enforcers.

[Viking_Erection 1]

Your post says much more about you than it does about Crosby or that picture.

Burn. Well played, sir.

[Doc Holiday 0]

The positives:

+ Crosby stood up for himself

+ Crosby won a fight

The negatives:

- Crosby took himself out of the game for five minutes without Malkin to help the brunt of offense in his absence (albeit only two shifts of his time)

- Crosby swings like a girl (though he at least knows to remove the gloves unlike a certain Swede back in the finals last year)

All in all, can't really give him grief considering their position in the standings. Good job, Sid.

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

He snaps and has a preschooler esque fit of rage... happens once every 3-5 months.

I love how I have to keep finding new sources for this same game video as they mysteriously keep getting pulled by you tube.

[skyphoenix 153]

Id be mad to if I was losing to the worst team in the West.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I gotta agree with Crossed-Arms Guy. There's a reason certain players are known as fighters or enforcers.

JakeRyan? I guess we know where you went now.

[Viking_Erection 1]

Wait, did Crosby's tampon fall out during the fight?

[Nev 1,085]

Some people take my posts way too seriously.

Why I think Crosby is a complete player.

Very rarely goes into slumps. PPG+ playoff and regular season performer. Plays on the PK. Leading or at least tied for the top faceoff man in the league with Thornton. I'm just impressed with his ability to improve area's of his game each season. Not to say Ovechkin, Malkin or even Datsyuk can't be in the discussion it's just my opinion that I would chose him to build a team around. You brought up +/- well he is improving on that this year, it's still early but so far he has the best +/- of any forward. He is one of the best battlers along the boards in the league, it's hard to prove as that's not really a statistic, but's its something I really am impressed by. Now Crosby isn't at the defensive level of Datsyuk atleast not yet, but I haven't seen Ovechkin put the dedication into the defensive game yet in his career.

That's all I'm saying. Some people seem to think I'm insulting their mother with some of my posts... I don't get it.

Except when he's facing Zetterberg/Lidstrom 5(?) points in 13 playoff games against Detroit

[Pavel Hossyukstrom 2]

nobody won anything here. And crosby has to pull zids shirt over his head to make it a fair fight for him? f***in cheap pos!! pleeeeease whatever you do crosby stop fighting! it's just sad.

[akustyk 84]

I don't get why they stopped the fight (no reason at all) but I have no problems with Crosby.

I am fed up with NHL shoving him into fans throats, but he himself is pretty much OK. if he want

to fight, whether it is reasonable or not and whether he can or not - let him go.

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

JakeRyan? I guess we know where you went now.

Oh God, it ain't true, I swear it! Although I don't know where he has been lately, maybe LetsGoPens.com, but I certainly am not JakeRyan. I'm no fan of Cindy and I still like Homer.