Maple Leafs in trouble with Ontario health ministry

[zettie85 106]

I hope so. I think we can spare a single shot for the elected leader of our country.

I'd rather Sidney get that shot.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I'd rather Sidney get that shot.

I read on LGW that Sidney gets special shots from Bettman, but their not in the arm.

[zettie85 106]

I read on LGW that Sidney gets special shots from Bettman, but their not in the arm.

Nice one. hahaha

[Wings_Toledo 233]

I don't really see why the media treats Swine Flu as this horrible, deadly disease. Yeah if you're a child or elderly you could possibly die from it, but you could say the same about a common cold. Those with status are treated first, that's nothing new at all.

[dropkickshanahans 463]

I read on LGW that Sidney gets special shots from Bettman, but their not in the arm.

LOL

[Duck Guy 86]

I don't really see why the media treats Swine Flu as this horrible, deadly disease. Yeah if you're a child or elderly you could possibly die from it, but you could say the same about a common cold. Those with status are treated first, that's nothing new at all.

I dun get how the leafs jumped the line then

[MacK_Attack 108]

The Leafs have H1N1 in the organization, two guys with the Marlies came down with it (Tyler Bozak & Andre Deveaux), so that's why the decision was made to quickly vaccinate the rest of the organization, Raptors included.

How they got a hold of the vaccine, who knows. I do know that they did not get the shot at a clinic, the vaccine was brought to them.

Edited November 6, 2009 by MacK_Attack

[Guest Four]

If a private clinic gave it to them instead of other people, then I don't see the problem with the Leafs. Why not a problem with the clinic? Personally, I'm not getting the vaccine, because my mom is a nurse and has a problem with the crap they put in the needles (mercury among others) and well, I find more people get the flu after getting the shots.. Ironic So to me, I'm against the shot, which I guess is why I don't care who gets it first. It's not the shot to cure cancer or smoking, or even the REGULAR flu. Which all three individually kill more people than H1N1.

Edited November 6, 2009 by Four

[Barrie 900]

Athletes are considered "low risk" because they are in peak physical condition and their systems can handle H1N1 much better than the general population that they cut in front of. Athletes should just "chill out" because they really have a lot less to lose than Grandma Smith who was waiting in line all day and still didn't get her vaccine.

I'm not going to start a debate about something I think has been blown way out of proportion, something the media loves to talk about to get ratings, and a shot I have no interest in getting, but athletes are coming down with H1N1 at a high rate. Going to different cities every couple of days makes them high risk. Some cities I'm sure have been infected more than others. Athletes can carry diseases like H1N1 across North America rather easily. Their kids can get it and infect the schools they go to.

I hope the out cry from the general public about athletes is justified and has nothing to do with the money they make. I think athletes many times are unfairly criticized just because they make a big pay check.

Most of the general public's day (I include myself when I say this) only involves going to work during the day, and then to someplace like the grocery store, movies, or a restaurant at night. We don't fly and have contact with people in other cities anywhere close to they do.

Personally I think it's smart to vaccine Athletes and their families early along with other high risk people.

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

Just slew-foot the kids and step to the front of the line. Nice.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

I'm not going to start a debate about something I think has been blown way out of proportion, something the media loves to talk about to get ratings, and a shot I have no interest in getting, but athletes are coming down with H1N1 at a high rate. Going to different cities every couple of days makes them high risk. Some cities I'm sure have been infected more than others. Athletes can carry diseases like H1N1 across North America rather easily. Their kids can get it and infect the schools they go to.

I hope the out cry from the general public about athletes is justified and has nothing to do with the money they make. I think athletes many times are unfairly criticized just because they make a big pay check.

Most of the general public's day (I include myself when I say this) only involves going to work during the day, and then to someplace like the grocery store, movies, or a restaurant at night. We don't fly and have contact with people in other cities anywhere close to they do.

Personally I think it's smart to vaccine Athletes and their families early along with other high risk people.

There is no proof that athletes are getting hit harder by H1N1. Just because you hear about it everytime a player gets it, doesn't mean they are getting it more then anyone else. People who are high risk are small children, the elderly, and people with preexisting medical problems, NOT athletes, who have private medical care available to them AT ANY TIME through their organization should they become injured or in this case, ill.

The bolded statement is just comical, and actually pathetic. "Only involves going to work" as if to somehow say NHLers and pro athletes have it harder then the general public. HAH, lets see - they fly on private chartered planes, they have private team meals, and private transportation to their games when traveling. The only place they are vulnerable is at the rink - just like every spectator who attends, who - as you say - may have gone to the grocery store (public place), gone to the movies (public place), or a restaurant (public place). Who knows they probably took public transportation to get to the venue and been exposed to the virus! Its looks pretty clear to me that a regular Joe is exposed to more potential virus carriers then Jarome Iginla. Granted, players come in closer contact with other players, but that alone should not give them precedence over high risk groups, and by no means should their families get to jump the queue, as was that case with the Flames.

I am not against pro athletes getting their shots, but they should get them when its their turn, after people who may actually die from the virus get their vaccine.

[Guest Four]

There is no proof that athletes are getting hit harder by H1N1. Just because you hear about it everytime a player gets it, doesn't mean they are getting it more then anyone else. People who are high risk are small children, the elderly, and people with preexisting medical problems, NOT athletes, who have private medical care available to them AT ANY TIME through their organization should they become injured or in this case, ill.

The bolded statement is just comical, and actually pathetic. "Only involves going to work" as if to somehow say NHLers and pro athletes have it harder then the general public. HAH, lets see - they fly on private chartered planes, they have private team meals, and private transportation to their games when traveling. The only place they are vulnerable is at the rink - just like every spectator who attends, who - as you say - may have gone to the grocery store (public place), gone to the movies (public place), or a restaurant (public place). Who knows they probably took public transportation to get to the venue and been exposed to the virus! Its looks pretty clear to me that a regular Joe is exposed to more potential virus carriers then Jarome Iginla. Granted, players come in closer contact with other players, but that alone should not give them precedence over high risk groups, and by no means should their families get to jump the queue, as was that case with the Flames.

I am not against pro athletes getting their shots, but they should get them when its their turn, after people who may actually die from the virus get their vaccine.

Those are the same people that are more vulnerable to the regular flu - you know, the one that kills more people?

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

If a private clinic gave it to them instead of other people, then I don't see the problem with the Leafs. Why not a problem with the clinic? Personally, I'm not getting the vaccine, because my mom is a nurse and has a problem with the crap they put in the needles (mercury among others) and well, I find more people get the flu after getting the shots.. Ironic So to me, I'm against the shot, which I guess is why I don't care who gets it first. It's not the shot to cure cancer or smoking, or even the REGULAR flu. Which all three individually kill more people than H1N1.

That's the problem with two-tier health care. Those with money will get whatever treatment they want, when they want it. The government should have refused to hand this vaccine out to private clinics until after the shortage was over and lines weren't 4-5 hours long. I don't know if that's the case with the Leafs, but I know the Flames had one set up for them just for this vaccine. They are all a bunch of ass hounds.

[Guest Four]

That's the problem with two-tier health care. Those with money will get whatever treatment they want, when they want it. The government should have refused to hand this vaccine out to private clinics until after the shortage was over and lines weren't 4-5 hours long. I don't know if that's the case with the Leafs, but I know the Flames had one set up for them just for this vaccine. They are all a bunch of ass hounds.

Yes, they should have, but they didn't and they shouldn't get mad at NHL players for making this mistake. How many other people fly under the radar that we don't know about? Just because they're commercialized teams, they get bashed for it, but I'm sure they're not the only ones.

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

Yes, they should have, but they didn't and they shouldn't get mad at NHL players for making this mistake. How many other people fly under the radar that we don't know about? Just because they're commercialized teams, they get bashed for it, but I'm sure they're not the only ones.

It's also the reason you hear about every one of them that contracts the virus, or has flu symptoms of any kind. Each and every man is responsible to answer to his own conscience. If your conscience and personal code of ethics will allow you to do this, then you are the smallest person I've ever seen. To jump lines filled with women and children is just plain disgusting.