Gnredwing 10 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Shanahan is obviously going to go into the hall of fame. Any chance you think the Wings will retire his 14 and raise to the rafters of the Joe. 3 stanley cups with the Wings, best seasons with the Wings, will that be enough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 There's little to no chance his number gets retired, though he's a first ballot HHOFer for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted November 17, 2009 highly doubtful, more than likely a definite no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 No, I don't think so. They've already let Meech take his number, and if you ask me, only the absolute no-brainers should go to the rafters at the Joe. Nick will be the next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 I'm gonna say its not enough. Statistically, he was more dominant before the Wings, but definitely is a Red Wing in the end. But retiring a player's number is the greatest honor you could give as an organization. I'd love to see Shanny get a jersey retirement ceremony at the Joe, but I don't think its possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest E_S_A_D Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Shanahan is obviously going to go into the hall of fame. Any chance you think the Wings will retire his 14 and raise to the rafters of the Joe. 3 stanley cups with the Wings, best seasons with the Wings, will that be enough? Absolutely not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 No, that number belongs to Meech, and that will be the name in the rafters. Bank on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Shanahan is obviously going to go into the hall of fame. Any chance you think the Wings will retire his 14 and raise to the rafters of the Joe. 3 stanley cups with the Wings, best seasons with the Wings, will that be enough? Absolutely not, especially when you consider the number of ex-wings currently waiting to enter the HHOF. Chelios and Ozzy are better picks than him for the rafters and I'm not sure either of those will see it. Edited November 17, 2009 by CaliWingsNut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Not a chance. Sorry, we just don't retire the numbers of every player who won a bunch of rings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drumnj 459 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Heck Fedorov's won't be going to rafters, no chance for Shanny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings Gone Wild 6 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Shanny is without a doubt a hall of famer... but retire his number, seriously? There are about a dozen guys as deserving, or more deserving of that honor than him.. 1. Lidstrom.. No brainer. After Lidstrom it gets into the less justifiable 2. Osgood.. Vast majority of his career with Wings, 2 cups as a starter, will probably be #1 in teams history in Wins department. 3. Federov.. 900+ points as a wing in 900+ games. 5th all time in team scoring behind Yzerman, Howe, Del, and Lids. 200+ more games than Shanny and well over 300 more points. Same number of cups, plus an MVP, and two Selkes. 4. Holmstrom... part of all 4 cups, first liner many times, entire career as a Wing, could finish career with 900+ games as a Wing. 5. Draper.. Not offensive, but 4 cups and 1000+ games as a Wing (every1 else with 1000+ has a retired jersey, or will). Top defensive forward, Selke winner, good enough of a player to represent Canada in the Olympics, so vastly underrated in terms of value to the team. 6. Then Shanny. 7. Maltby 8. McCarty 9. The new generation of Datsyuk and Zetterberg (whose stock will rise if they continue on with us, which it seems likely they will). In my mind Shanny is quite low on the list of guys who deserve that honor. He played a long time here, was amazing, and will go in the Hall of Fame, but if you can justify his number being retired, then I don't see how Fed, Osgood, Holmstrom, or Draper can be left off the rafters. In my opinion, you give guys like this a nice plaque in the arena, put them in the team Hall of Fame or something, but retire their number? The franchise has been around since 1926 and in that time we've retired a mere SIX numbers (7 if you're counting Aurie). That's less than a guy per decade... and now you'd want to open the floodgates and diminish the honor for Shanny? A guy who played 716 games in a Wings uniform and score 633 points? That's impressive, but FAR from rafter worthy..... Now, if he was Ray Bourque Edited November 17, 2009 by RedWings Gone Wild Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dertz.LoL! 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Meech doesn't deserve to wear the 14. Personally, I would love to see his number retire, but doesn't look like it. There are a few player out there ahead of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZetterbergFourty Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Meech doesn't deserve to wear the 14. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged_Wheeler 3 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 No Shanahan's number will not, Meech is already rocking the 14. Fedorov is my best bet. It's hard to believe no one would pick 91. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Not a chance. Sorry, we just don't retire the numbers of every player who won a bunch of rings. NEWS ITEM - Canadiens to retire number of Emile Bouchard "as soon as we find out what it was," says Gainey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Heck Fedorov's won't be going to rafters, no chance for Shanny. Agreed. Although I wouldn't be against putting 91 and 14 in the rafters, but understand why they won't be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Meech doesn't deserve to wear the 14. I agree. I'm surprised it only took a few seasons for them to put 14 back in circulation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trapt1307 81 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Absolutely not, especially when you consider the number of ex-wings currently waiting to enter the HHOF. Chelios and Ozzy are better picks than him for the rafters and I'm not sure either of those will see it. Chelios is not even remotely close to Shanahan. I would say Shanny and Fedorov are about tied, Osgood maybe after them, none will go up. Fedorov would have been a lock with Lidstrom had he played his whole career here. Hopefully Datsyuk and Zetterberg play their whole careers here, they are both locks if they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings Gone Wild 6 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Chelios is not even remotely close to Shanahan. I would say Shanny and Fedorov are about tied, Osgood maybe after them, none will go up. Fedorov would have been a lock with Lidstrom had he played his whole career here. Hopefully Datsyuk and Zetterberg play their whole careers here, they are both locks if they do. I don't think anyone other than Lidstrom is going to be getting their number retired in the next few years, but Federov is far ahead of Shanny in terms of likelihood. As I said in my previous post, he had 200 more games than shanny in a Wings uniform, 300 more points, an MVP award, and two Selkes, plus the same number of cups. Few players can say they have accomplished all that in one uniform. Edited November 17, 2009 by RedWings Gone Wild Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trapt1307 81 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Yeah, but Fedorov basically slapped the organization in the face when he left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwame_Kilpatrick 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 i think shanny federov lidstrom will all be retired and probably ozzy as well will all be retired, i know shanny didnt play as many games as federov or lidstrom or yzerman for us but those are 3 of the best players ever and i think shanny was a great player but just not elite, but that doesnt mean he doesnt deserve to be retired. for example ozzy wasnt elite ever but he was always good and he played with us for a while and even gave us a second chance after we ditched him and played great hockey in 08, without him we wouldnt have won the cup. so i think shanny deserves credit for helping bring glory back, and he is a great guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Should have made this a Poll OP. It'd be like 90-10 NO. So, I agree w/ everyone else. No way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Chelios is not even remotely close to Shanahan. I would say Shanny and Fedorov are about tied, Osgood maybe after them, none will go up. Fedorov would have been a lock with Lidstrom had he played his whole career here. Hopefully Datsyuk and Zetterberg play their whole careers here, they are both locks if they do. Osgood came within 1 puck hitting Dats in the foot of winning his 3rd cup as a starter and the Conn Smyth which IMO would have put his number in the rafters But this might be the year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 i think shanny federov lidstrom will all be retired and probably ozzy as well will all be retired, i know shanny didnt play as many games as federov or lidstrom or yzerman for us but those are 3 of the best players ever and i think shanny was a great player but just not elite, but that doesnt mean he doesnt deserve to be retired. for example ozzy wasnt elite ever but he was always good and he played with us for a while and even gave us a second chance after we ditched him and played great hockey in 08, without him we wouldnt have won the cup. so i think shanny deserves credit for helping bring glory back, and he is a great guy Wait. there's only 6 numbers up there and you want to add 4 more to the 6? Lids definitely Shanny no Feds no Ozzy maybe after 2 more cups By the way you need to work on your writing skills... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 Since it took 1 or 2 seasons for his number to go back into circulation with Meech...NO I honestly think Lidstrom is the only other shoe in for number retirement. Ozzie is one I hope for but will go either way. Feds...oh what may have been had you either stayed...or if the blue jackets had traded you to us and not Washington...but as is sadly no. No one else is worth considering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites