Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 The Wings don't really have the luxury of throwing Oz back in the net night after night waiting for him to get back on his game, not this season. Howard is hot, and the Wings need every point they can get, playing the hot hand is the way to go. When all's said and done it will be Ozzie starting between the pipes in spring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZetterbergFourty Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Osgood doesnt need to do s***. We all know he can suck balls as much as he feels like it until April. It's clearly the injuries and a couple players outright ******* the dog that is the real problem here. You're asking Osgood to go Superstar goalie when he's not, and everyone knows it. If you think Osgood needs to ramp it up, f*** he might aswell just retire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 The Wings don't really have the luxury of throwing Oz back in the net night after night waiting for him to get back on his game, not this season. Howard is hot, and the Wings need every point they can get, playing the hot hand is the way to go. When all's said and done it will be Ozzie starting between the pipes in spring. Unless Howard plays out of his mind or Osgood gets injured, ^ this x 1000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 People are missing the point here. As far as Osgood, the article, and the management go, no one's saying that Osgood's playing bad. Last regular season he played bad. He's playing all right this year. What Osgood's saying and what the article is getting at is that this team is a mess right now and it's going to be a tough road just to make the playoffs. Osgood needs to get his game to the playoff level now and steal some games and get his play a bit closer to superstar goalie level. He absolutely IS capable of it as all have clearly seen in the last two post-seasons. We're not losing games because of Osgood. We're losing games because everybody's gotten better and half our team is injured. We're also not winning games because of Osgood. Half our team was injured in the playoffs too. Osgood in large part carried this team as far as they went in the playoffs last year by exceeding his stellar play from the Cup-winning year. We don't need it every game, but we definitely need to see a bit more at this point. He'll get there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Unless Howard plays out of his mind or Osgood gets injured, ^ this x 1000. Howards played well and I'm happy with him, but I'd say that we'd do well to sit him a bit more. I wouldn't have started him last Thursday. He had three solid games. Great. You say, "Thanks for your hard work. Now it's Osgood's turn, but be proud of what you've done." Personally, I'd rather have Howard sitting on the up then possibly on the down, and down games will come. He's a rookie and this teams capable of playing just terrible this year. I just wouldn't chance it too much considering Osgood's healthy and playing fairly well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucks 66 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Beach ball is the same as he has been every year in this league. Only this year goal tending is under a microscope because we can't score. With the salary cap finally having caught up with us, we will no longer be able to get by with 3rd rate tenders between the pipes and still get wins. We'll need to draft or invest in a real solution at the position, just like we have on our centers and on defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Sir, you are kidding me right ? Chris Osgood has to prove he's a capable goaltending ? You have been watching the playoffs these last two season right ? Yes, again with the playoffs. I'm not saying Jimmy Howard shouldn't be given the time to develop, but imo Babcock has two make the best of out of two situations, not just one. This is not last years playoffs or the SCF two years ago this is now. I agree with Babcock that he should ride a hot goalie until his streak comes to an end. The Red Wings, RIGHT NOW, need that with the way they have been playing. To let Ozzie in and try to find a groove with us losing and maybe trying to fight for a playoff birth down the road is not the right choice IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Look, if the Wings lose with Osgood in net, Howard will play the next game. If the Wings lose with Howard in net, Osgood will play the next game. If one of them wins, we use them until we lose. That's the way I see this working. Neither one is outright better than the other right now and Ozzy is repeating exactly what he did last year and he knows it. He needs to get on the ball. Howard is improving with every game he gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZetterbergFourty Report post Posted December 8, 2009 NHL.com needs to ramp up it's game! Op needs to ramp up his threads! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Sir, you are kidding me right ? Chris Osgood has to prove he's a capable goaltending ? You have been watching the playoffs these last two season right ? Yes, again with the playoffs. I'm not saying Jimmy Howard shouldn't be given the time to develop, but imo Babcock has two make the best of out of two situations, not just one. This is not June 2008. It is also not June 2009. It is December 2009 and things have changed. How long are people going to say it's okay for Ozzie to slack off this year because he did a great job the last two postseasons? This is his job. He is paid to play for the entire year, not just playoffs. As fans, we pay all this money to go see the Wings play expecting them to work their asses off every night. Osgood was great in the playoffs. He should have won the Conn Smythe last year if we would have won. But this is a new season, and he is slacking off considerably. And I am sick and tired of him doing this because I love him and I know what he is capable of. The last two postseasons are the reasons I'm so frustrated with him. Because he plays out of his mind when he wants to, instead of every single game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 This is not June 2008. It is also not June 2009. It is December 2009 and things have changed. How long are people going to say it's okay for Ozzie to slack off this year because he did a great job the last two postseasons? This is his job. He is paid to play for the entire year, not just playoffs. As fans, we pay all this money to go see the Wings play expecting them to work their asses off every night. Osgood was great in the playoffs. He should have won the Conn Smythe last year if we would have won. But this is a new season, and he is slacking off considerably. And I am sick and tired of him doing this because I love him and I know what he is capable of. The last two postseasons are the reasons I'm so frustrated with him. Because he plays out of his mind when he wants to, instead of every single game. Well he has been playing a lot better than one year ago, so I wouldn't say he is regressing. I wouldn't say he is "slacking off" either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 We are getting close to the half way point of the season. I do not expect much from Osgood in the regular season. I do expect he'll ramp it up in the playoffs (assuming we get in) though. It's nice to have a goali that can dominate in the playoffs and we pay him relatively nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) Sir, you are kidding me right ? Chris Osgood has to prove he's a capable goaltending ? You have been watching the playoffs these last two season right ? Yes, again with the playoffs. I'm not saying Jimmy Howard shouldn't be given the time to develop, but imo Babcock has two make the best of out of two situations, not just one. Not to start a war with you but RE: the bolded: Wrong! Babcock has one thing and one thing only to worry about, make the playoffs. And the best way to do that play the hot goalie. He needs wins and needs to get them at a very steady clip. My only argument against Ozzie is this: The team needs wins to make it to the playoffs, there is no coasting this year, no time to monkey around with things and lose a game or two here trying to get Ozzie back on his game. Last year Ozzie needed time away, maybe this year his motivation is sitting the pine for a little while. But until he comes out and puts up GREAT numbers, you have to stay with J-Ho. The team seems to play better team D around him, maybe they trust Ozzie too much and get complacent when he is in net? I don't know what the cause of it is, but for some reason this team has been struggling to win with him in net. And I don't just mean on the scoreboard, I mean that NJ game was not pretty, not that NYR was any prettier. But the play in the Wings zone seemed more responsible with J-Ho in net. Having said all of that, and adding that I am a huge J-ho fan, wings need Ozzie in the post season IMO. I really don't want to be riding a Rookie in the playoffs! Edited December 8, 2009 by Opie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 The Wings don't really have the luxury of throwing Oz back in the net night after night waiting for him to get back on his game, not this season. Howard is hot, and the Wings need every point they can get, playing the hot hand is the way to go. When all's said and done it will be Ozzie starting between the pipes in spring. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdavis 28 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Osgood hasn't stolen many games this year, and has not been playing as good as he can be. Like most everyone is saying, the team can't take a chance on mediocre play when there will most likely be a fight to make the playoffs. They've played Howard, and he seems to be doing well. The only thing that matters here is winning games. If Osgood's s*** isn't together, the Wings won't win games with him in net. For now, Howard seems to have his s*** together and is winning games. Hence, playing Howard. I feel as though this will only last this reg. season, until the playoffs, and the team will take a chance on Osgood being stellar, or being a bust. In my personal opinion, I feel as though Osgood should be playing stellar right now, because in a sense, the playoff hopes are right now. If goaltending doesn't steal some games here, I think that will put a damper on the playoff hopes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Everyday is all I care........... Oh yeah...............Yeah...Yeah..........YEah...........oh Yeah............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucks 66 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) He can only go up from here. 28th in the league with 2.75 GAA and 41st with .896 sv %. Edited December 9, 2009 by Pucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Another season of Osgood's bulls***. It's getting stale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I wonder if the past two years of mediocrity will prevent him from getting into the HOF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digitaljohn88 4 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 He doesn't have that much opportunity right now. He will play better when he's... actually playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 He doesn't have that much opportunity right now. He will play better when he's... actually playing. Thank you, digitaljohn. What a novel concept. Another year of the "Osgood SUCKS!" crowd squealing that "he's not getting any better!", regardless of the fact that he's not actually PLAYING. Gotta PLAY in order to "get better". Stats don't improve from the bench, for the love of Pete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryMalredo 2 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 I wonder if the past two years of mediocrity will prevent him from getting into the HOF Eh, I don't see it happening it anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
