rage 24 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) Okay, you all keep forgetting you CAN NOT TRADE RAFALSKI!! You could however trade Stuart at year's end. Daniel Cleary, DET - NTC [in effect until 30 days prior to the 2011-12 trade deadline] Pavel Datsyuk, DET - NMC [until end of 2010-11 season, then has a partial NTC] Kris Draper, DET - NTC Nicklas Lidstrom, DET - NMC Brian Rafalski, DET - NTC Brad Stuart, DET - NTC [for 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons] Edited December 14, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk �" $6,700,000 * Ilya Kovalchuk �" $6,500,000 Henrik Zetterberg �" $6,083,333 Johan Franzen �" $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula �" $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary �" $2,800,000 Kris Draper �" $1,583,333 * Todd Bertuzzi �" $1,500,000 * Tomas Holmstrom �" $1,000,000 * Darren Helm �" $900,000 * Justin Abdelkader �" $900,000 * Patrick Eaves �" $900,000 Ville Leino �" $800,000 DEFENSEMEN Brian Rafalski �" $6,000,000 * Nicklas Lidstrom �" $4,000,000 Brad Stuart �" $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall �" $3,000,000 Jonathan Ericsson �" $900,000 Jakub Kindl �" $883,333 * Doug Janik �" $500,000 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood �" $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard �" $716,666 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 22 SALARY CAP $58,000,000 PAYROLL $57,787,876 BONUSES $0 CAP SPACE $212,124 Wow that's amazing. So if all goes similar to your lineup and Lidstrom inks a $4 million deal, we could spend nearly $6.5 million in the offseason. That's crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingedKitten 9 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Its obvious that its going to happen and its obvious that Kovalchuk is just the player that this team and Datsyuk needs. So who would you move? Its not going to happen for scraps or Maltby +. Wow. Salary cap problems? What problems? If Lidstrom wants to play again next season, make him do so at a severely discounted rate. Wow again. Atlanta would probably ask for something like Kronwall, Fippula, and Leino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaCkaveli20 275 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 I would probably wanna give up ANYONE but 'The Big 3'. Lebda Meech Drapes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain19 49 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 has this link been posted?? http://www.hockeyoutsiders.com/index.php?o...n&Itemid=68 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel Hossyukstrom 2 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Screw Kovalchuk ,I want Lundqvist!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 has this link been posted?? http://www.hockeyoutsiders.com/index.php?o...n&Itemid=68 I never heard of the site before. Is it credible? I doubt it. Everything I've read says that he'll stay in Atlanta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 has this link been posted?? http://www.hockeyoutsiders.com/index.php?o...n&Itemid=68 Detroit GM Ken Holland refused to comment on our article, simply stating “Where do you people come up with this [expletive]†LOL!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 I never heard of the site before. Is it credible? I doubt it. Everything I've read says that he'll stay in Atlanta. It's a facetious website, read the rest of the articles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 i think i would be willing to trade rafalski and maybe abdelkater or leino with a first rounder for kovalchuk if...and only if...he will resign after this season otherwise...I would wait until july Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 has this link been posted?? http://www.hockeyoutsiders.com/index.php?o...n&Itemid=68 i wish that was actually credible... but his logic doesn't make sense. Plus, his source uses logic to come up with a conclusion, not facts. He pretty much says that Franzen won't be back until the playoffs leaving cap room for the wings, which is not true. but that would be awesome for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 i think i would be willing to trade rafalski and maybe abdelkater or leino with a first rounder for kovalchuk if...and only if...he will resign after this season otherwise...I would wait until july Atlanta won't let him become a free agent. They would get nothing when they could be getting a lot for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 I swear, if another person suggests trading Rafalski and his NO TRADE CLAUSE!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 calm down... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangleDangleBeach 16 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 well first off, it is not going to happen. second, he likes the talent atlanta has surrounded him with, the club is moving in the right direction. off the top of my head, peverley, kane, bagosian, little, armstrong, white, antropov, afinegenov (who the team offered a contract to try and make kovalchuk happy, and well, it did) i mean the team has a lot of young talent going. they are building that team around kovalchuk and will pay him whatever it takes (way more then the wings could) to keep him in an atlanta uniform the rest of his life. kovalchuk is a force, and from what i have heard is happy with the direction in which the club is heading, therefore it seems like he is probably gonig to stay there. an actually logical trade for kovalchuk since they arent just going to give away a top 5 forward in this league for a sack of potatos (filpula, malts, draps). they wouldn't want franzen, since he cant stay healthy, they would more likely either want datsyuk or zetterberg + some change. wings send: zetterberg, leino wins receive: kovalchuk they might want to target young talent too, but umm we dont have too much salary space here. another logical trade that the cap prevents could be like: wings receive: kovalchuk wings send: leino and/or filpula + a prospect or two + a pick or two. you may say this is a lot, yes, but kovalchuk has scored 184 goals over the last 4 seasons, i think they are going to want someone to overpay if they cant keep him themselves. my 2 cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 I swear, if another person suggests trading Rafalski and his NO TRADE CLAUSE!!!!!!!!! Players can waive their NTC, but I know what you mean; Rafalski will retire after his contract is up here in Detroit, where he obviously wants to end his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 calm down... I'm not really upset or anything, just surprised people think Rafi would waive his NTC or that they just don't know that he has one. Players can waive their NTC, but I know what you mean; Rafalski will retire after his contract is up here in Detroit, where he obviously wants to end his career. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted December 14, 2009 well first off, it is not going to happen. second, he likes the talent atlanta has surrounded him with, the club is moving in the right direction. an actually logical trade for kovalchuk since they arent just going to give away a top 5 forward in this league for a sack of potatos (filpula, malts, draps). they wouldn't want franzen, since he cant stay healthy, they would more likely either want datsyuk or zetterberg + some change. wings send: zetterberg, leino wins receive: kovalchuk my 2 cents I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
