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Still waiting for a set of players to replace all three of Lapointe, McCarty and Kocur.

My thoughts as well.

Having clones of these 3 guys instantly makes us a crap-load tougher to play against in so many ways.

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I would take Bertuzzi back in a heartbeat for $1.5 million. He creates space and can be a force when he's 'on'. Granted he is a streaky player, but that's what you get for $1.5 million. Who else could Holland get for the price that can put up 40-45 points?

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Any wish list as far as bangers go?

Shawn Thornton, and Raffi Torres are 2 guys off the top of my heard that I believe are UFA this summer that I wouldn't mind seeing in a Red Wings sweater.

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Shawn Thornton, and Raffi Torres are 2 guys off the top of my heard that I believe are UFA this summer that I wouldn't mind seeing in a Red Wings sweater.

Both would be excellent fits here.Both can skate.Both hit.And both aren't afraid to stick up for their teammates.

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Both would be excellent fits here.Both can skate.Both hit.And both aren't afraid to stick up for their teammates.

That's 1 reason why I'd rather see $$$ spent on these guys instead of Bertuzzi; they hustle, and finish their checks without getting too many foolish penalties while Bert doesn't finish half his checks, and seems to take some bad penalties on a regular basis.

Your preferences this summer?

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That's 1 reason why I'd rather see $$$ spent on these guys instead of Bertuzzi; they hustle, and finish their checks without getting too many foolish penalties while Bert doesn't finish half his checks, and seems to take some bad penalties on a regular basis.

Your preferences this summer?

Agreed.I say let Bert walk this summer.I'd like to see any of the following here next year:

Brian Sutherby

Shawn Thornton(As mentioned)

Jason Chimera

Brad Winchester

Raffi Torres(As mentioned)

Kyle Chipchura

Brandon Prust

Andrew Ladd

Aaron Voros

David Clarkson

Ethan Moreau

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I want Rafalski gone at the least. I am drunk and I honestly cannot stand his defensive abilities anymore.

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About the draft... wings get a... 22th overall pick this year? or?

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I'm not keen on having any of Eaves, Miller, Abdelkader, Ritola, Helm on a 3rd line, compare them with hawks/pens third line, a third line is suppose to score as well as check, the third line gotta be more of an offensive threat.

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I think all this keeping/releasing policy depends on FA market and negotiations with FA players. Not every FA is not available i.e. does not want to work in detroit.

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I'm not keen on having any of Eaves, Miller, Abdelkader, Ritola, Helm on a 3rd line, compare them with hawks/pens third line, a third line is suppose to score as well as check, the third line gotta be more of an offensive threat.

I agree. While I love those guys we just can't match up well when we dress 6 fourth liners. In a perfect world, I'd like to see a guy like Bert skate on the 3rd line and actually produce. I just don't think Bert is hungry enough to do that.

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A common theme in both series this year was watching smaller Wing's players battling in the corners with behemoths. Getting rid of Bertuzzi helps that situation how?

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Trade for............Getzlaf. :cool:

Getzlaf (5.325m) - Datsyuk (6.700m) - Filppula (3.000m) (:wub:)

Franzen (3.954) - Zetterberg (6.083m) - Cleary (2.800m)

Hudler (2.875m) - Helm (.900m) - Bertuzzi (1.500m)

Abdelkader (.850m) - UFA (~1.0m) - Eaves (.850m)

Draper (1.583m)

Lidstrom (3.954m) - Stuart (3.750m)

Kronwall (3.000m) - Volchenkov (3.250m)

Ericsson (.900m) - UFA (~1.0m)

Forwards: 37.420m

Backwards: 15.854m

Total: 53.274m

And GMR gets his deadline space.

And we could probably actually move Helm down to the fourth line and with the space we have buy an even better third line center.

Edited by Z and D for the C

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Trade for............Getzlaf. :cool:

Getzlaf (5.325m) - Datsyuk (6.700m) - Filppula (3.000m) (:wub:)

Franzen (3.954) - Zetterberg (6.083m) - Cleary (2.800m)

Hudler (2.875m) - Helm (.900m) - Bertuzzi (1.500m)

Abdelkader (.850m) - UFA (~1.0m) - Eaves (.850m)

Draper (1.583m)

Lidstrom (3.954m) - Stuart (3.750m)

Kronwall (3.000m) - Volchenkov (3.250m)

Ericsson (.900m) - UFA (~1.0m)

Forwards: 37.420m

Backwards: 15.854m

Total: 53.274m

And GMR gets his deadline space.

And we could probably actually move Helm down to the fourth line and with the space we have buy an even better third line center.

Rafalski has got a NTC

And what dreamworld do you live in, a 37year old rafalski albeit a good Dman for a young highly talanted power forward that can rack up 70-80assists... lol

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He'll waive it if the wings ask him to.

And he wouldn't be the only piece in the trade.

:hehe:

Edited by Z and D for the C

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I want a big tough Canadian who can fight.

I'm not keen on having any of Eaves, Miller, Abdelkader, Ritola, Helm on a 3rd line, compare them with hawks/pens third line, a third line is suppose to score as well as check, the third line gotta be more of an offensive threat.

The Hawks will have to dump most of their 3rd and 4th lines because of the cap.

He'll waive it if the wings ask him to.

And he wouldn't be the only piece in the trade.

:hehe:

You do realize that Ralfi leads ALL d-men in the playoffs in points don't you? Yea let's trade him

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You do realize that Ralfi leads ALL d-men in the playoffs in points don't you? Yea let's trade him

If we could actually trade Rafalski (plus maybe a pick or an AHL player or something) for one of the best young players in the league you'd be crazy not to do it.

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More goons. MORE GOOOOONS!! :ranting:

More of the fightings = more of the Stanley's. Simple physics.

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I want a big tough Canadian who can fight.

The Hawks will have to dump most of their 3rd and 4th lines because of the cap.

You do realize that Ralfi leads ALL d-men in the playoffs in points don't you? Yea let's trade him

Colin Fraser would be a good 4th line center.

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Question is: "who is real Flip?"

A. Flip vs Phoenix

B. Flip vs San Jose

- Hudler: People here are very high on Hudler... Babs isn't big fan of Hudler. How can people see him on 1st or 2nd line??? Imagine him battling with Jovanovski or Murray for puck... C'mon he's too small/weak to play on 2 top lines. We don't have very big lines in start which doesn't help either. Hudler playing on top 2 lines means that Flip will play on 3rd line. I don't know for you but I like more Flip than Hudler.

- Cleary: There is no need for him - he's way overpaid ($2,800,00 for nex 3 season) for 3rd or 4th line winger and he CAN'T play on top 2 lines. I would like to see him gone. We can call him "Invisible Man"...

- Bertuzzi: I would like to see him back - at $1,500,000 (I may be wrong but I think that he still gets some $$$ from Ducks buyout) and he fit nicely with either Zetterberg or Dats.

- Draper: Finished - thanks for everything.

Trade Hudler (bad thing is that he right now his trading value is ZERO) and Cleary for cap space (draft picks).

FORWARDS: $31.1M

1st line ($11.7M) Flip ($3M) - Dats ($6,7M) - Homer ($2M)

2nd line ($11.4M) Franzen ($3,9M) - Zetterberg ($6M) - Bertuzzi ($1.5M)

3rd line ($3.7M) Eaves ($.8M) - Abdelakader ($.875M) - "X" (approx $2M)

4th line ($3.6M) "Toughness" (approx $1M) - Helm ($.875M) - Torres($1.75M)

Miller/Nichol ($.700M)

"X":

Afinogenov ($1M)

Artyukhin ($1M)

Armstrong ($2M)

Ladd RFA ($2.25M)

Toughness:

S. Thornton ($.700M) BEST ENFORCER

Carcillo RFA ($.9M)

Clarkson RFA ($1M)

Boll RFA ($.850M)

Prust RFA ($.500M)

Asham ($.650M)

DEF: ($20.5M)

Lidstrom ($5M) - Rafalski ($6M)

Stuart ($3.75M) - Kronwall ($3M)

Ericsson ($.9M) - Foster ($1M)

Kindl ($.883M)

Wish list:

Boychuk RFA ($1M)

With Foster you have big def with right hand shop for 2nd PP unit.

Goalies: ($2.132M)

Howard ($.716M)

Osgood ($1.416M)

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