Correy Perry slashes and slew foots Vockun

[thedisappearer 291]

Actually go back and watch it. Perry is stopped infront of Vokoun checking his stick and Vokouns momentum from shooting the puck kind of carried him into Perry. Obviously he was off balance but it looksl ike a sell too me.

I've watched it multiple times. I don't see that.

[mjlegend 155]

Yeah, he hit the goaltender, sell-job or not. Shoulder to shoulder.

Whether it's the NHL, the KHL or air hockey, if it walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck and hits goaltenders like a Duck, chances are very good it's an Anaheim Duck.

Edited May 19, 2010 by mjlegend

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

This is only a big deal because it involves Perry.

Nothin to see here, marginal bump and he slashed his stick. You can slash a persons stick, ya know.

Edited May 19, 2010 by 10 Minute Misconduct

[CMatt89 63]

If your gonna leave the crease, you gotta pay the price. I hate Perry but, come on. He barely touched him

[soultrain 43]

perry is a dirty duck.

[Reds4Life 51]

Oh and Perry is better then anyone on the Czech team, even better then old washed up Jagr.

Yeah, he sure as hell looked so much better than players from European leagues, he totally dominated.

[toby91_ca 620]

Complain about contact with the goalie (even though Vockun flopped) - I probably would have called it. But a slash and a slew foot?

Firstly, there is absolutely no evidence of a slew foot...zero. Suggesting a slew foot makes me think some don't know what a slew foot is.

Secondly, he slashes at the stick which is playing the puck. This happens about 500-1,000 times a game and usually gets called if you break a guys stick, but other than that, never gets called.

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

Was there a memo regarding a new definition of "slew foot" that we all missed? Any word on "serious bruising" when Vockun flopped? Don't worry; Canada got theirs. They now get to play Russia.

[Reds4Life 51]

Complain about contact with the goalie (even though Vockun flopped) - I probably would have called it. But a slash and a slew foot?

Firstly, there is absolutely no evidence of a slew foot...zero. Suggesting a slew foot makes me think some don't know what a slew foot is.

Secondly, he slashes at the stick which is playing the puck. This happens about 500-1,000 times a game and usually gets called if you break a guys stick, but other than that, never gets called.

I never said anything about slew foot. LOL at Vokoun flopped, Perry had quite a momentum and while it was not close to a hit, it was enough to put Vokoun on his ass.

It should have been 2 mins for Perry, nothing more or less. That would also make the goal illegal.

Edited May 19, 2010 by Reds4Life

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

As much as I hate Perry, Vokoun really sold that one.

[Pucks 66]

Blatant penalty, he just ran over the goalie. That's a penalty no matter what nationality you are. If your team is on the wrong side of that play you'd be screaming at the TV. Especially considering a goal was scored.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Blatant penalty, he just ran over the goalie. That's a penalty no matter what nationality you are. If your team is on the wrong side of that play you'd be screaming at the TV. Especially considering a goal was scored.

He didn't run over Vokoun, he slashed at his stick. The most he deserved, as stated above, is a 2 minute minor. Vokoun could have gone for diving as well.

[Konnan511 1,736]

I didn't see a slash or a slew foot, just a nice solid check. Keep your head up Vokoun!

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

On another note, the mods need to correct the spelling of both names in the thread title.

[IILeiBlazeII 15]

I can't believe the arguments we're seeing here.

1) Perry slashed the goalies stick. The stick doesn't need to snap like a toothpick for it to be a penalty.

2) He obviously interfered with the goaltender. I'm trying to imagine what we all would have done if that was Howie in Vokoun's place - this forum would be *LIVID*. A bump is one thing - Perry made sure the goalie was out of the picture.

All that = 2 minutes and no goal. Simple. As. That.

[Holmstrom96 347]

I gotta say I'm with Newfy on this one. If anything Perry initiated a little contact with Vokoun, but he didn't get his foot behind him.

Agreed. I saw no slew foot. Just looked like he hit the goalie and then he prodeded to flop all around the place.

[newfy 695]

I can't believe the arguments we're seeing here.

1) Perry slashed the goalies stick. The stick doesn't need to snap like a toothpick for it to be a penalty.

2) He obviously interfered with the goaltender. I'm trying to imagine what we all would have done if that was Howie in Vokoun's place - this forum would be *LIVID*. A bump is one thing - Perry made sure the goalie was out of the picture.

All that = 2 minutes and no goal. Simple. As. That.

When you slash at the stick just to try to stop the guy from making a pass its hardly ever called. Its a stick check more then a slash. Slashing penalties are called to stop players from trying to hurt with their sticks, this "slash" isn't perry trying to hurt the goalie.

And when the goalie comes out to play the puck you're allowed to go for the puck, its not like he has a force field around him.

The reason its called when it breaks the stick is because it affects the other players ability to play the game and essentially make the other team short handed. A slash on the stick isn't hurting anyone.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I think we all agree there was no slew foot.

As for the slash? Meh, that stuff happens all the time. Stick didn't break, he didn't get Vokoun badly, they let it go as they should have.

As for the debate about whether or not Perry was stopped, almost stopped or steamrolled Vokoun, i'm going with what I saw. He had the breaks on, is leaning away and his momentum just gives Vokoun a solid bump. Is it a Scott Stevens level hit? No. Did he try to avoid the goalie. No. Should they have called a penalty? Yes.

They should've called goaltender interference and in the NHL they would have I think.

Lastly, Vokoun tried to sell that like a used car salesman. He probably didn't brace for it well but there's just no way he crumples to the ice like that without thinking about trying to get a call. Don't forget, he's an NHL goalie. Ever watched an NHL goalie? They so much as get farted on and they fall over.

[thedisappearer 291]

I think we all agree there was no slew foot.

As for the slash? Meh, that stuff happens all the time. Stick didn't break, he didn't get Vokoun badly, they let it go as they should have.

As for the debate about whether or not Perry was stopped, almost stopped or steamrolled Vokoun, i'm going with what I saw. He had the breaks on, is leaning away and his momentum just gives Vokoun a solid bump. Is it a Scott Stevens level hit? No. Did he try to avoid the goalie. No. Should they have called a penalty? Yes.

They should've called goaltender interference and in the NHL they would have I think.

Lastly, Vokoun tried to sell that like a used car salesman. He probably didn't brace for it well but there's just no way he crumples to the ice like that without thinking about trying to get a call. Don't forget, he's an NHL goalie. Ever watched an NHL goalie? They so much as get farted on and they fall over.

I agree with this.

[b.shanafan14 733]

No slash/slewfoot, but Vokoun definitely looked more like a defenseman getting hit on a forecheck than a goaltender. Should have been some penalty. Team Canada is 90% ****** bag these days as it is.

[IILeiBlazeII 15]

When you slash at the stick just to try to stop the guy from making a pass its hardly ever called. Its a stick check more then a slash. Slashing penalties are called to stop players from trying to hurt with their sticks, this "slash" isn't perry trying to hurt the goalie.

And when the goalie comes out to play the puck you're allowed to go for the puck, its not like he has a force field around him.

The reason its called when it breaks the stick is because it affects the other players ability to play the game and essentially make the other team short handed. A slash on the stick isn't hurting anyone.

-via the NHL rulebook-

61.1 Slashing - Slashing is the act of a player or goalkeeper swinging his stick at an opponent, whether contact is made or not. Non-aggressive stick contact to the pant or front of the shin pads, should not be penalized as slashing. Any forceful or powerful chop with the stick on an opponent’s body, the opponent’s stick, or on or near the opponent’s hands that, in the judgment of the Referee, is not an attempt to play the puck, shall be penalized as slashing.

As far as hitting a goalie when he's out of the crease... again, a bump is one thing - this is another. And trust me, I'm about as subjective as one can get here; I dislike both Perry AND Vokoun. I suppose our disagreement is the problem with a referee system, ya know? One person sees one thing, another person sees another...

*Edit to mention my idea of a stick check is lifting the stick from below or from the side, not slamming my stick on top of the opponents. There is a distinct difference between trying to get the puck loose and what I saw in that video (again, IMO).

Edited May 20, 2010 by IILeiBlazeII

[Rick Zombos Ghost 82]

Ive always thought goalies outside the crease should be fair game. Id take Perry on my team anyday.

[newfy 695]

-via the NHL rulebook-

61.1 Slashing - Slashing is the act of a player or goalkeeper swinging his stick at an opponent, whether contact is made or not. Non-aggressive stick contact to the pant or front of the shin pads, should not be penalized as slashing. Any forceful or powerful chop with the stick on an opponent’s body, the opponent’s stick, or on or near the opponent’s hands that, in the judgment of the Referee, is not an attempt to play the puck, shall be penalized as slashing.

As far as hitting a goalie when he's out of the crease... again, a bump is one thing - this is another. And trust me, I'm about as subjective as one can get here; I dislike both Perry AND Vokoun. I suppose our disagreement is the problem with a referee system, ya know? One person sees one thing, another person sees another...

*Edit to mention my idea of a stick check is lifting the stick from below or from the side, not slamming my stick on top of the opponents. There is a distinct difference between trying to get the puck loose and what I saw in that video (again, IMO).

Thats where we differ I guess. He didn't slash it hard enough to break it, he was impeding the puck from going around the boards. It makes sense to call it if its hard enough to break it but it isn't hurting anyone, the puck is right there and it didn't break so its not like it left the other team at a disadvantage.