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[henrik40]

I know this is a discussion board, and I'm sure this has been said many times, but for christ's sake blueadams, STOP WITH THE LINE THREADS. I was hoping this thread was an actual discussion about whether or not to trade Cleary and next thing I know I'm reading more proposed lines by you. I don't mind debating lines a couple times in the offseason and several during the season, but every other week overboard.

[Hossa4Life]

Not to be "that guy" who nitpicks...but does anyone else appreciate the humor of these two comments?

i doont see wut ur talllllking abot. u must bee ane idoit

[Dimaline312000]

It's definetly something to consider.

[Red Storm]

Well,this is really a line thread in shaky disguise. Cleary has a NTC.

I like those lines, I'd switch Bert and Hudler.

I also don't think we should sign Miller. He is brings the same thing as Eaves and others, I'd rather spend that money on a really physical 4th liner.

Either way, I'm pretty happy with how our team is looking next year. Lets just stay healthy.

Really ,your happy with the make-up of this line- up?

[Jesusberg]

Not to be "that guy" who nitpicks...but does anyone else appreciate the humor of these two comments?

That there ain't no nitpickin'. It just means you gots yourself an edumacation.

[T.Low]

Does anyone else have the craziest sense of Deja vu? I swear I read this exact thread with the same first 3-4 posts a couple weeks ago.

Not a joke....seriously asking?

Yeah, you're right. I was looking for my post and couldn't find it because it's not in this thread it's in the other one. The other thread isn't even off this page yet.

I'll finish by sayinig, No, it's still not time to trade Dan Cleary.

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php/topic/65588-trade-cleary/

Edited by T.Low, 20 June 2010 - 12:50 PM.

[T.Low]

Dan Cleary will continue to earn a place on the Red Wings roster until the day he retires.

Edited by T.Low, 20 June 2010 - 12:53 PM.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

Give him next year,and if he doesn't return to those stats from before the injuries,let him go.

[T.Low]

Give him next year,and if he doesn't return to those stats from before the injuries,let him go.

Mark my words, brother, mark my words.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

Okay man,we'll see.Loyalty is a part of Kenny's game so who knows.

[Zetts]

Okay man,we'll see.Loyalty is a part of Kenny's game so who knows.

Yes, loyalty is part of Kenny's game. And a no trade clause is part of Cleary's contract.

Does anybody have a count on how many times the Wings have ever asked somebody to waive their NTC?

[chrisdetroit]

even in his good seasons...

does cleary really bring something (something worth 2.5 mil extra) to the table that eaves/miller don't?

Yes. He had 34 points last year and 40 or more the previous 3 seasons in a row before that. Even in Eaves best season (his rookie year) he had only 32 points.

So really, this is a stupid question.

[NomadFromKazoo]

Yes. He had 34 points last year and 40 or more the previous 3 seasons in a row before that. Even in Eaves best season (his rookie year) he had only 32 points.

So really, this is a stupid question.

I agree, it's a silly discussion. Unfortunately there's not likely to be much to discuss the next couple months though so this is going to be pretty much the sort of discussion we get until September.

[Finnish Wing]

Yes. He had 34 points last year and 40 or more the previous 3 seasons in a row before that. Even in Eaves best season (his rookie year) he had only 32 points.

So really, this is a stupid question.

The question was about paying Cleary 2,5m extra for that and it wasn't a stupid question at all. Not worth it, but we'll see if things change next season. And I also know that Cleary could probably get easily +3m in some other team's (like Thrashers and Islanders), but we're talking about a Stanley Cup contender here - a team which should fill up the cap every year.

[newfy]

The question was about paying Cleary 2,5m extra for that and it wasn't a stupid question at all. Not worth it, but we'll see if things change next season. And I also know that Cleary could probably get easily +3m in some other team's (like Thrashers and Islanders), but we're talking about a Stanley Cup contender here - a team which should fill up the cap every year.

A 20 goal scorer who can lay big hits, is one of the most versatile guys in the league and would probably go through a wall for his teammates is worth that contract yes.

People think because we've had some guys take discounts in the past that all contracts should be on that level. Around the league Cleary is a very good price for what he brings and won't be traded.

[Finnish Wing]

A 20 goal scorer who can lay big hits, is one of the most versatile guys in the league and would probably go through a wall for his teammates is worth that contract yes.

People think because we've had some guys take discounts in the past that all contracts should be on that level. Around the league Cleary is a very good price for what he brings and won't be traded.

"but we'll see if things change next season." Read the whole sentence, pleace.

Cleary isn't worth his salary if you look at the last season. I'm confident he can play better, but he's not worth it at the moment.

Yet again, you continue to amaze me with your ability to read only a small part of the post and ignore the rest. I said that Cleary could easily get +3m in other teams, but we aren't Trashers or Islanders. We are supposed to be Cup contenders and fill the cap every year. Player want to win the Cup. We can't compare our contracts to every team around the league.

If you look at the other Cup contenders Cleary's contract certainly isn't "very good price".

Edited by Finnish Wing, 20 June 2010 - 03:23 PM.

[Ram]

Answering the thread's topic: No.

[chrisdetroit]

The question was about paying Cleary 2,5m extra for that and it wasn't a stupid question at all. Not worth it, but we'll see if things change next season. And I also know that Cleary could probably get easily +3m in some other team's (like Thrashers and Islanders), but we're talking about a Stanley Cup contender here - a team which should fill up the cap every year.

The question was whether Cleary brought more to the table than Eaves and that was what I was referring to as a stupid question. He was injured most of last season. It's a shame that people want to dump him based on 1 injury riddled season. Until Eaves puts up 40 points 3 years in a row, I don't think that you can compare the two. He's been in the league 6 years and hasn't done it yet.

[DatsyukianDeke13]

To answer your question, no. That is why Ken Holland has not done it.

[Finnish Wing]

The question was whether Cleary brought more to the table than Eaves and that was what I was referring to as a stupid question. He was injured most of last season. It's a shame that people want to dump him based on 1 injury riddled season. Until Eaves puts up 40 points 3 years in a row, I don't think that you can compare the two. He's been in the league 6 years and hasn't done it yet.

"does cleary really bring something (something worth 2.5 mil extra) to the table that eaves/miller don't?"

That was the question and I think that 2,5m extra is pretty big deal.

Edited by Finnish Wing, 20 June 2010 - 04:06 PM.