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#21 RusDRW

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:33 AM

This quote came to my mind after the game last night -

"You think you can win on talent alone? Gentlemen, you don't have enough talent to win on talent alone."

-Herb Brooks


the worst thing is that they have enough talent to be on par with that 2002 Red Wings team... What we see is just lack of effort.

PS Who did Brooks say these things to? US Olympic hockey team just before the final game in 1980? If so, then it was pretty obvious...

Edited by RusDRW, 15 October 2010 - 10:36 AM.

Sweet. This dude was brought here for one reason, to punch people in the head - every other thing that he can do, other Wings can do better. I like that we have a head-puncher. The league has other, better head-punchers, but this one is ours. Better than nothing. Good work, Kenny!

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:35 AM

It's not good enough to just make the playoffs or get past the 1st round, it's the final 4 or nothing.... yeah that's what red wings' is about.

Last weekend I had Liters of beer and it sure as hell didn't make me happy.... :zzz:

Playoffs are almost always wide open year in and year out. They've won Cups and also gotten upset in the 1st round as well in recent memory.

You have to get to the playoffs first, and they still did that in spite of injuries and the bad start.

We're going to get beer, striaght Vodka, and a personal stripper for you then. You're never happy on here, and you need to be happy in life.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:40 AM

looks like you are sarcastic... However, after watching last two games I'm not optimistic at all. I really feel bad for those people who bought tickets to watch that lack of effort in person. All the Red Wings players are proffesional athletes and they need to clearly understand who are they playing for. Obviously, they need additional push from our coaches to start playing with some kind of urgency. And this is a bad thing. Practially, it means they don't care. This is unproffessional to say the least. Especially, taking into account the level of talent they have... it is not like we're talking about TML.


The team is going to have a couple games every year that they stink. It happens. It's the NHL... every team has talent and it is impossible to play with 100% effort and efficiency every game. Don't you occasionally have bad days at work? You get less work done than usual? That doesn't make you unprofessional.

There were times during the first half of last season that I was quite worried. But I'm not at all worried about this season. Let's see where they are after 15 games, when we have a good sample of comparison.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:44 AM

the worst thing is that they have enough talent to be on par with that 2002 Red Wings team... What we see is just lack of effort.

PS Who did Brooks say these things to? US Olympic hockey team just before the final game in 1980? If so, then it was pretty obvious...


The answer to your question is yes. I don't know if that's an actual quote or just from the movie Miracle, though.

I'm happy with the team we have now, but I imagine your comparison to the 2002 team is hyperbole. That may have been, for all intents and purposes, the best hockey team ever assembled. The 2010 Red Wings are nothing like the 2002 Wings.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:59 AM

It's not good enough to just make the playoffs or get past the 1st round, it's the final 4 or nothing.... yeah that's what red wings' is about.

Last weekend I had Liters of beer and it sure as hell didn't make me happy.... :zzz:

The last 19 seasons, 9 times made the "final four", 6 cup appearances, 4 cups, 10 times didn't make it to "the final 4" -- 53% chance the Wings don't make it to the conference finals/final 4.

Nobody should take the advice of a pampered negative nancy (riding the coat tails of this team's success) who just became a Wings fan (and shows quick signs of jumping off the bandwagon at the slightest bit of adversity) a couple seasons ago concerning what the Red Wings are all about. Wings can't be like Game 1 and Game 2 for the other 80 games. Pop a Xanax in your beer, calm down, and try enjoying games instead of being fault finding.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:03 AM

Let me say that I am not panicked yet; HOWEVER, remember last season when we said the same thing? "It's early it's only game 3" "it's early, its only half way through the season" "oh s***...We might not make the playoffs"


Remember 2006-2007?

Last time I checked they still made the playoffs, 19th year in a row.

We need to get a whole bunch of beers in your system and get you drunk and happy. You have got to loosen up.


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Edited by Crymson, 15 October 2010 - 11:02 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:03 AM

they play bad 2 games in a row and people act like chicken little.

I'd rather they play bad now than april-june.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:07 AM

There's a big difference between venting and panicking.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:07 AM

they play bad 2 games in a row and people act like chicken little.


Yeah, and then they call Blackhawks fans bandwagoners. They're still right, but the irony is amusing.

Edited by Crymson, 15 October 2010 - 11:07 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:07 AM

I agree, I think this team does have the talent. It's not enough to have talent, you need to show up and play your ass off, and you have to want it more than the other guy. The last 2 games, and most of last year, I haven't seen that. The Stars totally picked us apart, they know we pass through the center in our own zone and they were there to pick those passes. I am concerned that it is time to change up our style a little. I feel like we have become predictable. Everyone knows we are going to the point on the PP, and everyone knows Homer will be in his office.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:07 AM

The last 19 seasons, 9 times made the "final four", 6 cup appearances, 4 cups, 10 times didn't make it to "the final 4" -- 53% chance the Wings don't make it to the conference finals/final 4.

Nobody should take the advice of a pampered negative nancy (riding the coat tails of this team's success) who just became a Wings fan (and shows quick signs of jumping off the bandwagon at the slightest bit of adversity) a couple seasons ago concerning what the Red Wings are all about. Wings can't be like Game 1 and Game 2 for the other 80 games. Pop a Xanax in your beer, calm down, and try enjoying games instead of being fault finding.

1997 tututut... i'm just pissed off, im an emotional guy the red wings' are a big part of my life so i hate it when they lose like this

Edited by mindfly, 15 October 2010 - 11:08 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:17 AM

There's a big difference between venting and panicking.

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i agree 100%. But when people are like "god hudler sucks, why did he have to come back?"

umm.... its been 4 games. not everyone can be a super star every night of the week. Even Michael Jordan had his bad days.

Edited by nate94gt, 15 October 2010 - 11:17 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:20 AM

i agree 100%. But when people are like "god hudler sucks, why did he have to come back?"

umm.... its been 4 games. not everyone can be a super star every night of the week. Even Michael Jordan had his bad days.

This isn't baseball we're talking about here!!! :P

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:29 AM

the worst thing is that they have enough talent to be on par with that 2002 Red Wings team...


Really? That was an all star team and I don't think we'll ever see a team in the salary cap era stacked like that. This Wings team is good, but no one will ever touch the '02 team. That was the only year I wasn't yelling at the TV non-stop during the playoffs. I knew no one out there was good enough to beat them 4 times in 7 games.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:37 AM

The team is going to have a couple games every year that they stink. It happens. It's the NHL... every team has talent and it is impossible to play with 100% effort and efficiency every game. Don't you occasionally have bad days at work? You get less work done than usual? That doesn't make you unprofessional.


Well, I'm not the best at what I'm doing :) Sad but true...

However, I got your point. I guess all of us remeber that 4-9 game against San Jose in the cup winning season :) I even remeber 1-6 against Flyers in 1997 season. Each and every season there are games Red Wings do not even bother to show up...
Sweet. This dude was brought here for one reason, to punch people in the head - every other thing that he can do, other Wings can do better. I like that we have a head-puncher. The league has other, better head-punchers, but this one is ours. Better than nothing. Good work, Kenny!

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:40 AM

Well, I'm not the best at what I'm doing :) Sad but true...

However, I got your point. I guess all of us remeber that 4-9 game against San Jose in the cup winning season :) I even remeber 1-6 against Flyers in 1997 season. Each and every season there are games Red Wings do not even bother to show up...


The team got beaten 9-1 against the Sharks in early '07, too. But for postseason injuries, that team like would have won the Cup.

'06-'07 was, incidentally, a year in which the Wings started off quite poorly.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 12:45 PM

I would also state that I don't consider criticizing, ranting, or venting to equal panic. The Wings will make the playoffs (heck, with the number of teams that get in, you'd have to try hard to not make it in). For me, it's just the aggravating thought that I've just wasted an evening watching guys suck. I don't think they suck, period. But they sucked for the particular game on which I'm posting. I'm not a fan of hockey - just Red Wing hockey. I don't get any satisfaction watching the other team display great skills. To be truthful, when they play like they did last night, I usually watch something else, and just check the score occasionally. I suppose that makes me not a real fan to some. If so, then I've been a not real fan since 1961. And for some reason, I'll be right there when the next game comes up. So, please, just let some of us rant in peace, and try not to read too much into what we do.
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